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Oh great, I would love to see the "Divisions d'Infanterie Polonaises" (1 Dywizja Grenadierow and the others) in game.
Will you include the "Brigade Polonaise du Levant" (Levant Polish Brigade) as well ?
Here is a list of all POL units except the airforce which will also appear in some form (1937 INT most likely); if you can deliver names in French I'd be grateful.
My idea is to deploy them with French names for the corps and Polish for the unit.
Divisions which might appear when POL is still there will get options to deploy them with historical or no commander (so choses by a player).
And here is a list of POL units under SOV command - before the Lublin 'government' was brought in suitcases:
Code:
##### Polish units under Soviet command #####
landdivision = {
dormant = yes
id = { type = 12077 id = 1200 }
name = "1. Dywizja Piechoty im. Tadeusza Kosciuszki"
type = infantry
model = 2
strength = 60
extra = super_heavy_armor
brigade_model = 1
}
landdivision = {
dormant = yes
id = { type = 12077 id = 1201 }
name = "2. Dywizja Piechoty im. Henryka Dabrowskiego"
type = infantry
model = 2
strength = 60
extra = engineer
brigade_model = 1
}
landdivision = {
dormant = yes
id = { type = 12077 id = 1202 }
name = "3. Pomorska Dywizja Piechoty im. Romualda Traugutta"
type = infantry
model = 2
strength = 60
extra = sp_artillery
brigade_model = 1
}
landdivision = {
dormant = yes
id = { type = 12077 id = 1203 }
name = "4. Pomorska Dywizja Piechoty im. Jana Kilinskiego"
type = infantry
model = 2
strength = 60
extra = artillery
brigade_model = 2
}
landdivision = {
dormant = yes
id = { type = 12077 id = 1204 }
name = "1. Warszawska Samodzielna Brygada Kawalerii"
type = cavalry
model = 1
strength = 30
extra = light_armor_brigade
brigade_model = 1
}
Looks really great.
Here are the missing French names:
3 Dywizja Piechoty : 3eme Division d'infanterie Polonaise
Samodzielna Brygada Strzelców Podhalańskich : Brigade Autonome de Chasseurs de Podhale
21. Dywizja Górska : 21eme Division d'Infanterie de montagne
10. Brygada Pancerno-Motorowa : 10eme Brigade Blindée
The difficulty in its formation was also related to the weakness of French tank production. After all, even De Gaulle struggled to obtain enough tanks for his 4th DCR.
10. Dywizja Zmechanizowana : 10eme Division Mécanisée
Here are the missing French names:
3 Dywizja Piechoty : 3eme Division d'infanterie Polonaise
Samodzielna Brygada Strzelców Podhalańskich : Brigade Autonome de Chasseurs de Podhale
21. Dywizja Górska : 21eme Division d'Infanterie de montagne
10. Brygada Pancerno-Motorowa : 10eme Brigade Blindée
The difficulty in its formation was also related to the weakness of French tank production. After all, even De Gaulle struggled to obtain enough tanks for his 4th DCR.
10. Dywizja Zmechanizowana : 10eme Division Mécanisée
I'm bored so more information:
There was something about POL in exile and in SOV army so why not something opposite?
Revisited list of dormant units in POL campaign file
Point to note:
1. 216th regiment of infantry - it was the last independent unit which wasn't covered by the mobilization events. It was created to oversee borders with Slovakia and Hungary. As you might notice it is impossible to upgrade (small division), but it disappears if ON units are reformed in 1940.
2. Because National Defence can be deployed as independent units and only then it can be subsequently reformed into proper infantry division I believe two instead of one division are justified considering there are now over 3 small divisions which are disbanded. Seems fair and also costs a little more.
3. 2nd Cavalry Division. To 1937 cavalry existed in a number of brigades and divisions and 1st, 3rd and 4th Division were finally disbanded at that time with 10th Cavalry Brigade motorized in later months. 2nd Cavalry Division was the only remaining large unit of cavalry. Mainly on paper because de facto it retained only one regiment which was motorized in 1939 to form Warsaw Mechanized Brigade.
In this case I decided that it won't hurt to give a choice either to disband it as historically or to keep it which would mean disbanding Mazowiecka Cavalry Brigade and definetely greater cost in mainataining the division and upgrading it later (Cavalry Brigades events do not affect capability to upgrade large divisions for some reason, only to produce them).
4. Siberian Division is here as ahistorical option for those who manage to conquer Irkuck in Siberia. A form of reward I guess.
5. Western volunteers. Divisions which can be created if POL fights against the SU, isn't at war and maintains good relations with certain countries and those countries are not in danger theselves.
Call it a form of 'crusade against Bolshevism'.
Divisions were named after historical characters, usually foreign volunteers who joined the January Uprising in Poland, Lithuania, Belorus and Ukraine (BTW Lithuanian government announced it will attempt to organise large celebrations of this rising in 2013 when it is its turn to head the EU).
So for example division Francesco Nullo will be formed if Poland is at war with the SOV, maintains good relations with Italy, Spain and Portugal (that is why it is also 'iberian' division) and is named after general Nullo who accidentally also appears in ITA OOB as a name for one of smaller DDs.
This division receives largest experience because of some veterans of the SCW would be there.
There will be one event to launch recruitment of all those units and a number of events for each of them because some of the divisions will receive manpower from abroad (+1% str. and 1 MP to the pool each time), often from several countries e.g. division 'François Rochebrune' named after commander of the Zouaves of Death will get majority from France (obviously), but also something from Belgium and Switzerland, though much less of course.
I am not sure if in this particular case the division and the events could be formed if FRA was at war with the SOV at the same time. I am not certain if the government would allow volunteers to leave during such a conflict.
Events like these will also marginally improve relations between some countries and POL (+1-2 points I think) and divisions will be dissolved if the war against the SOV is ended.
I selected only the following countries for those units:
301. Germanska DP 'Georg Langermann'
Germany, Austria, Switzerland, maybe the Netherlands,
Forming the division might result in a slider move towards political right.
302. Skandynawska DP Górskiej 'August Maximilian Myhrberg'
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland - if FIN fights SOV it will either never appear or stops receiving support.
303. Amerykanska DP 'Casimir Pulaski'
USA, Brasil, Argentina. Support from the USA ceases to arrive with war against JAP or GER.
304. Gallicka DP 'François Rochebrune*'
France, Belgium, Switzerland. I don't think that conflict with JAP should deactivate it, but as I mentioned already war with SOV is a different matter.
*Rather peculiar fact, but colonel François Rochebrune never learnt more than a couple of phrases in Polish so his warcry was really strange - 'Którrrra godzina!' i.e. 'Whaaaat time it is!!!'.
305. Iberyjsko-wloska DP 'Francesco Nullo'
Italy, Spain, Portugal + maybe something from Southern America.
306. Brytyjska DP 'Joseph Conrad'
UK, Australia, Canada and other Commonwealth countries, but grouped together. Maybe also Ireland, but probably it will be added to the Iberian-Italian division or American one.
I wonder if this sort of event could be allied to other countries and wars.
If you have good and reasonably realistic ideas I might add them - it really isn't that difficult when I have the main form which I'd only copy and adjust.
I will most likely give something similar for EST if it fights the SOV - volunteers mainly from FIN.
Very good, thanks!
That is true, but Maczek and other officers noted a certain level of distaste, plus the FT-17 they received initially almost caused hearattacks to men who seen such equipment about one decade earlier.
If you don't mind I'd also need translation for 4th Motorized Division for 4th Infantry if it is still there in 1941.
There was something about POL in exile and in SOV army so why not something opposite?
Revisited list of dormant units in POL campaign file
Point to note:
1. 216th regiment of infantry - it was the last independent unit which wasn't covered by the mobilization events. It was created to oversee borders with Slovakia and Hungary. As you might notice it is impossible to upgrade (small division), but it disappears if ON units are reformed in 1940.
2. Because National Defence can be deployed as independent units and only then it can be subsequently reformed into proper infantry division I believe two instead of one division are justified considering there are now over 3 small divisions which are disbanded. Seems fair and also costs a little more.
3. 2nd Cavalry Division. To 1937 cavalry existed in a number of brigades and divisions and 1st, 3rd and 4th Division were finally disbanded at that time with 10th Cavalry Brigade motorized in later months. 2nd Cavalry Division was the only remaining large unit of cavalry. Mainly on paper because de facto it retained only one regiment which was motorized in 1939 to form Warsaw Mechanized Brigade.
In this case I decided that it won't hurt to give a choice either to disband it as historically or to keep it which would mean disbanding Mazowiecka Cavalry Brigade and definetely greater cost in mainataining the division and upgrading it later (Cavalry Brigades events do not affect capability to upgrade large divisions for some reason, only to produce them).
4. Siberian Division is here as ahistorical option for those who manage to conquer Irkuck in Siberia. A form of reward I guess.
5. Western volunteers. Divisions which can be created if POL fights against the SU, isn't at war and maintains good relations with certain countries and those countries are not in danger theselves.
Call it a form of 'crusade against Bolshevism'.
Divisions were named after historical characters, usually foreign volunteers who joined the January Uprising in Poland, Lithuania, Belorus and Ukraine (BTW Lithuanian government announced it will attempt to organise large celebrations of this rising in 2013 when it is its turn to head the EU).
So for example division Francesco Nullo will be formed if Poland is at war with the SOV, maintains good relations with Italy, Spain and Portugal (that is why it is also 'iberian' division) and is named after general Nullo who accidentally also appears in ITA OOB as a name for one of smaller DDs.
This division receives largest experience because of some veterans of the SCW would be there.
There will be one event to launch recruitment of all those units and a number of events for each of them because some of the divisions will receive manpower from abroad (+1% str. and 1 MP to the pool each time), often from several countries e.g. division 'François Rochebrune' named after commander of the Zouaves of Death will get majority from France (obviously), but also something from Belgium and Switzerland, though much less of course.
I am not sure if in this particular case the division and the events could be formed if FRA was at war with the SOV at the same time. I am not certain if the government would allow volunteers to leave during such a conflict.
Events like these will also marginally improve relations between some countries and POL (+1-2 points I think) and divisions will be dissolved if the war against the SOV is ended.
I selected only the following countries for those units:
301. Germanska DP 'Georg Langermann'
Germany, Austria, Switzerland, maybe the Netherlands,
Forming the division might result in a slider move towards political right.
302. Skandynawska DP Górskiej 'August Maximilian Myhrberg'
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland - if FIN fights SOV it will either never appear or stops receiving support.
303. Amerykanska DP 'Casimir Pulaski'
USA, Brasil, Argentina. Support from the USA ceases to arrive with war against JAP or GER.
304. Gallicka DP 'François Rochebrune*'
France, Belgium, Switzerland. I don't think that conflict with JAP should deactivate it, but as I mentioned already war with SOV is a different matter.
*Rather peculiar fact, but colonel François Rochebrune never learnt more than a couple of phrases in Polish so his warcry was really strange - 'Którrrra godzina!' i.e. 'Whaaaat time it is!!!'.
305. Iberyjsko-wloska DP 'Francesco Nullo'
Italy, Spain, Portugal + maybe something from Southern America.
306. Brytyjska DP 'Joseph Conrad'
UK, Australia, Canada and other Commonwealth countries, but grouped together. Maybe also Ireland, but probably it will be added to the Iberian-Italian division or American one.
I wonder if this sort of event could be allied to other countries and wars.
If you have good and reasonably realistic ideas I might add them - it really isn't that difficult when I have the main form which I'd only copy and adjust.
I will most likely give something similar for EST if it fights the SOV - volunteers mainly from FIN.
Very good, thanks!
That is true, but Maczek and other officers noted a certain level of distaste, plus the FT-17 they received initially almost caused hearattacks to men who seen such equipment about one decade earlier.
If you don't mind I'd also need translation for 4th Motorized Division for 4th Infantry if it is still there in 1941.
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You're welcome.
That is true, but Maczek and other officers noted a certain level of distaste, plus the FT-17 they received initially almost caused hearattacks to men who seen such equipment about one decade earlier.
I truly can understand them. Many French tankists were also forced to fight in such tin cans. But you're right, the French High Command was not very enthusiastic about Maczek and his boys. Well in fact the French High Command was not very enthusiastic about any new independent armoured units.
It's: 4eme Division d'Infanterie Motorisée
I am finishing cataloging my icons - includes some selections where SKIFF icons were used and adjusted, but anyway here are first displays of the current airplane sets which I consider more or less finished.
Bulgaria
Hungary
Romania
Yugoslavia
Poland
Well... I could always check the writing in the unit_names file, but where is fun in that?
Besides embarrasing spelling mistakes - commiting this crime in English is enough, I woldn't like to pollute another language.
Influenced by some gius on dws.pl and latest articles in Polish military magazines I actually have really good opinion about French armored forces. Overall.
In this case I guess they were rather annoyed staring at those ancient FT-17 which in Poland were only used to support armoured trains and to... block the gate of Brest fortress. Especially if you come from one of units which were not defeated during the Polish Campaign and are forced to listen patronising remarks from people who didn't smell battle dust.
Bulgaria
Hungary
Romania
Yugoslavia
Poland
Well... I could always check the writing in the unit_names file, but where is fun in that?
Besides embarrasing spelling mistakes - commiting this crime in English is enough, I woldn't like to pollute another language.
I truly can understand them. Many French tankists were also forced to fight in such tin cans. But you're right, the French High Command was not very enthusiastic about Maczek and his boys. Well in fact the French High Command was not very enthusiastic about any new independent armoured units.
Influenced by some gius on dws.pl and latest articles in Polish military magazines I actually have really good opinion about French armored forces. Overall.
In this case I guess they were rather annoyed staring at those ancient FT-17 which in Poland were only used to support armoured trains and to... block the gate of Brest fortress. Especially if you come from one of units which were not defeated during the Polish Campaign and are forced to listen patronising remarks from people who didn't smell battle dust.
And here is a list of commanders for France based POL force
There is one more commando leader just in case someone dies.
Somw commanders will be customisable with some events removing or adding certain traits - important for mountain commanders who might otherwize be asigned to lead infantry divisions.
Just in case someone worried about that - Maczek does deserve all his traits as the best POL of the war. In fact he would even deserve offensive doctrine and engineer looking at his whole career during the war, but that is covered in this case by trickster trait.
There is one more commando leader just in case someone dies.
Somw commanders will be customisable with some events removing or adding certain traits - important for mountain commanders who might otherwize be asigned to lead infantry divisions.
Just in case someone worried about that - Maczek does deserve all his traits as the best POL of the war. In fact he would even deserve offensive doctrine and engineer looking at his whole career during the war, but that is covered in this case by trickster trait.
Once more I truly can understand them. Reminds me some stories about the relationship between our American friends and our 2éme Division Blindée (2nd Armoured Division) during the later part of the war.
Returning to the topic, great work on the new icons !
AoD offers more options, like defining more than 10 models per division, and because I will have a little more time in the coming two days I added another feature. Exclusively for Japan - floatplane fighters:
One time bonus in each case, impossible to uprade, but quite useful to controll larger areas of Pacific airspace destroying enemy airplanes and to search for enemy ships at the same time.
Stats might change (e.g. range), but it is one of those little additions I really enjoy a lot.
One time bonus in each case, impossible to uprade, but quite useful to controll larger areas of Pacific airspace destroying enemy airplanes and to search for enemy ships at the same time.
Stats might change (e.g. range), but it is one of those little additions I really enjoy a lot.
It seems that I won't close this project.
Is it already decided? Just to be sure I'd wait until the last votes have been counted. 2 of the 3 german elections in the last decade were decided by less than 10.000 votes. But I hope, that you'll continue your mod. I never thought that playing as Poland would offer such a good game experience.
NEWS
I could commit more time recently to this project as you could notice.
Today I've added:
POL merchant fleet events - ocean liners and similar.
JHP - Junackie Hufce Pracy was a paramilitary organisation which helped much in erecting fortifications so they are added.
Something planned a long time ago - very complicated chain of POL-FRA events about technology, money and industry.
SWE-POL military cooperation.
Dificulties POL experienced with tank production are fully recreated in the game now.
Everything of course according to the latest sources and best knowledge of some best informed people in POL.
I need to finish POL army in France chains (two versions), and start working on a number of events for Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
They are made differently this time. Though I will be barely able to sleep this night - I remember 1995 elections and even if I wasn't able to vote yet it was something worth not forgetting.
But then again I remember Urban's press conferences 'exposing' Solidarity's 'attempts to start a military coup with the help of the CIA' so I can handle everything.
And TVP ('TVPiSLD') I don't watch since 2006 so whatever.
It seems it is highly probable. 'PiS Blitzkrieg' run out of fuel (fingers crossed) so I can carry on.
I could commit more time recently to this project as you could notice.
Today I've added:
POL merchant fleet events - ocean liners and similar.
JHP - Junackie Hufce Pracy was a paramilitary organisation which helped much in erecting fortifications so they are added.
Something planned a long time ago - very complicated chain of POL-FRA events about technology, money and industry.
SWE-POL military cooperation.
Dificulties POL experienced with tank production are fully recreated in the game now.
Everything of course according to the latest sources and best knowledge of some best informed people in POL.
I need to finish POL army in France chains (two versions), and start working on a number of events for Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.
I wouldn't be so quick to trust the polls after the latest fiasco.
They are made differently this time. Though I will be barely able to sleep this night - I remember 1995 elections and even if I wasn't able to vote yet it was something worth not forgetting.
But then again I remember Urban's press conferences 'exposing' Solidarity's 'attempts to start a military coup with the help of the CIA' so I can handle everything.
And TVP ('TVPiSLD') I don't watch since 2006 so whatever.
It seems it is highly probable. 'PiS Blitzkrieg' run out of fuel (fingers crossed) so I can carry on.
No, this mod will not be continued if Kaczyński wins.
There is no but here. If I wake up with Kaczyński as a president I am stopping working on this project the moment it is confirmed.
Łódź and Upper Silesia - you are my heroes from now on. Lublin - don't screw it up!
EDIT - it didn't and Sopot with Gdynia (locals + Opener festival) confirmed the results.
full map
http://prezydent2010.pkw.gov.pl/PZT/PL/WYN/W/0G.htm
Tomorrow back to work... ok, a day off - I deserve it.
EDIT - it didn't and Sopot with Gdynia (locals + Opener festival) confirmed the results.
full map
http://prezydent2010.pkw.gov.pl/PZT/PL/WYN/W/0G.htm
Tomorrow back to work... ok, a day off - I deserve it.
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I am back to work. Actually I am close to have all necessary materiel to prepare another edition which would include rather rudimentary scheme for armies in exile.
Polish, but maybe also Czechoslovak and Norwegian.
Polish, but maybe also Czechoslovak and Norwegian.