• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

unmerged(193457)

Private
11 Badges
Jan 31, 2010
17
1
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Magicka
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • Pillars of Eternity
I'll admit I have never completely understood how heir grooming works in Crusader Kings. What little I did know is that there is a link between the father's statistics (or foster father's statistics), your advisors' statistics, and MTTH in relation to the upbringing (parental upbringings, raised by a local noble, etc.). I thought I'd finally cleared it up when I came across clb's excellent post in the FAQ sub-forum.

Here is a link for anyone interested: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?156085-On-Education

However, I'm unsure if this information is still relevant for Deus Vult as indicated by the overview for Deus Vult written by King and Andersson.

We have also removed the link between parent stats and child stats. Now health and
fertility are determined at birth, while other stats develop as the child grows. Every
year on the child's birthday it will gain a stat. At least one stat will always increase by
1 point, however there is a chance that a stat might increase by 2 or that all the stats
will increase by 1.

So my question is this: To what extent has the link between parental statistics and child statistics been removed? Is child development completely determined by this random number generator, upbringing, and traits? Or is there still some statistical relevance between the father and advisors? Some clarification would be appreciated.
 
The base stats in Deus Vult are completely up to the RNG, if I remember correctly. However, the traits are still somewhat determined by upbringing and your choices as a father. And later education is dependent on advisors - having a crappy one-dot bishop with low stats is probably not going to produce very good ecclesiastical education.
 
I'll admit I have never completely understood how heir grooming works in Crusader Kings. What little I did know is that there is a link between the father's statistics (or foster father's statistics), your advisors' statistics, and MTTH in relation to the upbringing (parental upbringings, raised by a local noble, etc.). I thought I'd finally cleared it up when I came across clb's excellent post in the FAQ sub-forum.

Here is a link for anyone interested: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?156085-On-Education

However, I'm unsure if this information is still relevant for Deus Vult as indicated by the overview for Deus Vult written by King and Andersson.



So my question is this: To what extent has the link between parental statistics and child statistics been removed? Is child development completely determined by this random number generator, upbringing, and traits? Or is there still some statistical relevance between the father and advisors? Some clarification would be appreciated.

In CK vanilla, your kids would get some of the parents stats, so if you married a 15 Martial ruler to a 15 stewardship female, your kid would inherit most of that. Thus came along the term of breeding superhumans. This was removed in DV. Meaning, that no matter if your father had 15+ in every score and your mother likewise, you could still end up with a moron of 5 in Martial stat as his best score (before any traits modifiers).

The only inherited stats were Health and Fertility.

Upbringing is determined mostly by chance, unless you use Parental Upbringing. Sending a kid for Fostering could be good, if you sent them somewhere where the advisors had good education and more that 7 in DIP stat. That could positively affect the outcome of the child's education.
 
So the advisors' education remains generally unchanged? Thank you both for your responses and for clearing this up. I'm sure some of the newcomers who recently received a free code will appreciate this bit of information too.