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Drachenfire

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The idea is this: Script events that in some way promote more emersion in the very Mideival Chivelric and Courtly Love flavor that was promoted by the Dukes and Duchesses of the Aquitaine.

"Courtly love was a particular ideal and practice during the Middle Ages in Europe, which had its origins in courtly circles of Aquitaine, where William IX, Duke of Aquitaine, was one of the first troubadour poets, of Provence, where it was known as fin'amor of Champagne and ducal Burgundy. Courtly love was an aspect of a renewed pleasure in the refinements of the better kind of life, a first stirring of neopaganism in the "delightful understanding" or gai saber of Provençal poets, beginning about the time of the First Crusade.


In essence, courtly love was a formalized system of admiration and courtship, modeled after feudal obligations of fealty translated to the part of a "gentle" knight towards an unavailable lady, usually a person married to someone other than the admirer, and generally of higher status. Courtly love was the idea that a noble man would dedicate his life to the love of a lady. Such a love could not exist within marriage, it was believed, but had to be love from afar, but not so distant that it could not also include consummation. As the etiquette of courtly love became more complicated, the knight might wear the colors of his lady: blue or black were the colors of faithfulness; green was a sign of unfaithfulness. Salvation, previously found in the hands of the priesthood, now came from the hands of one's lady. In some cases, there were also women troubadours who expressed the same sentiment for men." Wikipedia


So....

Everything from "a pretty wench catches your eye" changed to something more enticing like

"your Courtisan demands you profess your undieing love for her!"

"Yes! Let the World Know of our Love!" result: wife's loyalty goes down, maybe get the trait "passionate". Maybe a child is born.

"Our love is best kept our Secret" with no effect on wife but no child.

"You were nothing more then a wench for me!" with some result too.


Now with Courtly Love .... that is somewhat anti-Catholic.


"The courtly love tradition was non-Christian, providing an alternative to the love of God and the Church, placing salvation in the love of your lady (or man). Marriage had only recently been made a sacrament of the Church, at the Fourth Lateran Council, 1215, and within Christian marriage, the only purpose was procreation with any sex beyond that purpose seen as non-pious. The ideal state of a Christian was celibacy, even in marriage. By the beginning of the 13th century the ideas of courtly tradition were condemned by the church as being heretical. The church channeled many of these energies into the cult of the virgin; it is not a coincidence that the cult of the Virgin Mary began in the 12th century as a counter to the secular, courtly and lustful views of women. Francis of Assisi called poverty "his Lady".

Such a courtly love had a civilizing effect on knightly behavior, beginning in the late 11th century; it has been suggested that the prevalence of arranged marriages required other outlets for the expression of more personal occurrences of romantic love. New expressions of highly personal private piety in the 11th century were at the origins of what a modern observer would recognize as a personality, and the vocabulary of piety was also transferred to the conventions of courtly love." Wikipedia


Maybe we could attach some sort of connection to how developed a provance's troubadour level is. Something that the ruler could choose to promote or supress.

Maybe a slew of others as well.... but based on Heroic Chivelrous Events like

"Your Lady sends you on a mission to.... " with cause and effects too.


I am not a coder though so dont know how to make a Chivelrous and Courtly Love Scripting Events. I could help on research though if anyone is interested in creating this...?

I wish for Arthurian type quests mixed with the romantic traditions of the Aquitaine.
 
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BOPACK has 2 historical events

# 19449 - Chretien de Troyes - 1160/81 Seine - spreads romantic poetry
# 19476 - Gottfried von Strassburg - 1200/20 Germany - Tristan and Isolde

Other events will be released soon ;)
 
more more :D
 
Events could include:


Quests for Courtiers. It would ask the king if he would send so and so courtier to quest for the Holy Grail, or quest for the Ark of the Covenent, For a Peice of the Ture Cross, ect.

The ruler would have the standard 3 options to choose from:

1) No! I cant spare the men! War is near! result: Lower energy or something, maybe coward.
2) Only on their Off Time! Increased energy or something.
3) By Gods Grace! Quest! Quest! Crusader trait? Energetic?

Others might include founding a monistary or convent (with cause and effect too), promoting Troubadors, Minstrals, and Bards (with cause and effects), promoting the Sciences,

Maybe these could be targeted for certin characters so as to build their character traits? And some, such as promoting Troubadors, Minstrals and Bards, would grant you an advancement in that technology?!
 
That would be nice to include :D maybe with little modification in the text anyway :p

btw Drachen check the other thread where we spoke about the DS mod. I cant pm you your box is full and the mail was returned.

Post 1000 i belive :D