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Abaddon55

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Simply as stated in title. I get it, I understand the amount of time it takes to develop and release a game, especially one of that scale, but, I cannot be expected to switch to a game that costs $40-60 on launch and has less content than the prequel. Don't make the same mistake. We're an incredibly loyal fan base. If CK3 is just base CK2 with a pretty map, you can expect what the result will be.
 
Totally agree. But looking at games like the sims,EA keeps getting away with it,even with less and less content every time a new game is released... I wouldn't hold my breath that paradox won't do the same.
 
Oh no, Im sure they are so stupid they are gonna release a game with better graphics but with just CK2 vanilla content. Especially after learning how harsh the fanbase can be after I:R.


So yeah, Im sure it wont have any of the DLC content, because they are just amateurs right?


Jesus christ people...
 
Oh no, Im sure they are so stupid they are gonna release a game with better graphics but with just CK2 vanilla content. Especially after learning how harsh the fanbase can be after I:R.


So yeah, Im sure it wont have any of the DLC content, because they are just amateurs right?


Jesus christ people...


Hearts of Iron IV had fancy graphics and it missed most of hoi 2 and 3 features so I think people concerns are proper here
 
Oh no, Im sure they are so stupid they are gonna release a game with better graphics but with just CK2 vanilla content. Especially after learning how harsh the fanbase can be after I:R.


So yeah, Im sure it wont have any of the DLC content, because they are just amateurs right?


Jesus christ people...

They are the opposite of amateurs,they got into the big league now,and that is EXACTLY why they will do it. Minimum effort/maximum profit. And later on they will start spoon feeding us the DLCs over the course of years.
 
I would read this article which allay fears a bit about content.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/20...is-happening-heres-ten-things-we-know-so-far/
6. There’s no “Deus Vult”.
In the years since CK2’s release, “Deus Vult” – an eleventh century crusader battlecry – has become a vile meme beloved of racists on the internet. I asked how Paradox’s community team felt about this, and was told emphatically that the words will not appear in Crusader Kings 3
Talking about the real issues here. Nothing wrong with Giant Catholic Cannibals though.
 
Well, the announcement of CK3 caught me by surprise, for sure...

The map is obviously a step forward but I am not impressed with the rest of the interface (too minimalist, lacking soul) as well as the use of 3D models in events and for characters' faces. Related to events, it means there will probably be less variety in graphics - CK2 with all expansions have 342 different event graphics, I wonder how many will be for CK3 at release. Also, the modders will have much more difficulty in coming up with new stuff related to event graphics thanks to the 3D nature of it.
Regarding the faces it probably means there will be less mods that change that aspect of the game as modelling good faces requires a different, rarer set of skills than present modders have.

As for the content, it is positive Paradox is trying to cover content from most of CK2 DLCs but the axe of Republics and Nomads are not good news. I am biased though, ads I really enjoy playing Republics.

Regarding mechanics, I trust Paradox is going to deliver on what is already very good in CK2.


Final point, as CK2 is my favourite game, I suppose this time I will join the bandwagon and buy it at release date. Hopefully this will not be a I:R type debacle and the game will be much more than a map painter. Also, probably will then mod it since day one.
 
It will have most of the content as well as new stuff but it will also cut away some stuff such as Nomadic gameplay.

It won't have "most of the content". From the official announcement:

I should emphasize that we will not be bringing along everything that is currently in Crusader Kings II. The most highly praised or useful features from Crusader Kings II and its expansions will certainly join us in CK3, but obviously not everything could make the cut.
 
It’s not realistic to expect that as CK2 has like nearly a decade of content over that time. Ck3 takes the opportunity to upgrade the base engine, and look at all the “cruft” that has accumulated and try to address some of that.

you don’t just copy and paste some xml files and magically get everything from CK2

Ck3 lays the groundwork and framework for the future. That means some stuff will be left out to accommodate it.
 
If you expect CK3 to contain all the CK2 DLCs, I think that's a silly idea. I never bought most of those DLCs, which were generally inessential fluff. The base game was the important part of the offer. I'd prefer Paradox to spend time designing a better base game, than to spend the same time adding fluff to it. If the base game is successful, they can add fluff later.