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SigurdStormhand

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One line summary of your issue
3.0 Vassals cannon/will not grant Viceroyalties

Game Version
3.0 PXTU

What expansions do you have installed?
All of the above

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
Previously reported under an older patch here: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...ot-grant-viceroyalties.1064574/#post-24849273

"Since 2.8 (I think) higher-tier vassals (Kings) cannot grant Duchy-Viceroyalties. As a result a King-tier Viceroy accumulates Duchy-Viceroyalties throughout their life. This has two consequences:

1. The King-tier Viceroy's vassals hate them because of the "Too many held Duchies" modifier.

2. When your vassal dies all your other vassals suddenly hate you for the same reason and you're suddenly massively over your vassal limit.

The knock-on from this can be really nasty, it means more revolts, more malcontent councillors and (if you suddenly die) realm fragmentation. "

Most noticeable within the Byzantine Empire - certainly true for King-level Viceroys. When a King-vassal inherits a Viceroyalty he refuses to grant it to one of his vassals - not that he *can't* grant it out, playing as a Viceroy vassal I have been able to do so in 2.8 at least, it's that he *won't*.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Have a King-level Viceroy vassal with Viceroys as vassals - wait until his vassals die.

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Answered this in another thread. Will try to reproduce this myself asap!

This is very much appreciated.

I cannot be sure but I have some suspicions that, just occasionally, vassals do hand out Viceroyalties from seeing lower vassals still holding them in France and Iberia but they may just be me not tracking every title 100%. The Exarch of Anatolia always seems to have this issue, though.
 
I have a save game which I used to test this and there are several viceroyal kings with several viceroyal duchies because they never give them out, causing a -100 opinion for all of their vassals.
 

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Yes, I'm having this same problem. Vassal Kings simply accumulate Duchy Viceroyalties and spend much of their time in Civil War.