CK II - CK2 3.0.1.1 (NNDO) Unable to Secret Convert to Nestorian with Mahoyadapuram Holy Site

[eastcoastceojam]

One line summary of your issue
CK2 3.0.1.1 (NNDO) Unable to Secret Convert to Nestorian with Mahoyadapuram Holy Site

Game Version
CK2 3.0.1.1 (NNDO)

What expansions do you have installed?
All of the above

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
When your ruler owns a Holy Site, they get the option to Secretly Convert to the religion associated with that Holy Site. The Nestorian Holy Site in Mahoyadapuram does not seem to allow a ruler to secretly convert to the Nestorian religion. I have experimented with many other Holy Sites, and this option is always listed when right-clicking on the county shield, but not in Mahoyadapuram. I have attached an image below where you can see that I own the county, but the Secret Conversion option is not present like it is in other Holy Sites.

Steps to reproduce the issue.
Start a game in 769, pick the ruler of Mahoyadapuram, and right-click the county shield. I have all the Expansion DLCs except for the Music Packs. No Mods installed.

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[jonjowett]

Works for me. Are you zealous?

 

[eastcoastceojam]

Works for me. Are you zealous?

No, not zealous, my ruler is a regular Hindu. I have tried as both the starting count and the Duke of Pandya Nadu, but the decision never shows up for that county. What religion is the character that you used in the above screenshot? And are you missing any of the major DLC?

I also tried consoling my Indian ruler as Bon, and the secret conversion decision still did not appear. I am able to get the secret conversion decision on other Holy Sites (Jerusalem, Cairo), but not this Nestorian one in India.

 

[jonjowett]

What religion is the character that you used in the above screenshot? And are you missing any of the major DLC?

Reformed Germanic, and I have all DLC (apart from ebooks).

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I followed your steps (769 start as the Pandya duke) and was able to reproduce the issue. (I gave myself the county using the console, and also gave myself 1000 piety and prestige.) I then switched to catholic and sunni via the console - still not possible. Gave myself Jerusalem using the console and the decision was available. I also reproduced the issue in the 1066 start as both the Chola king and his Chera duke vassal. I tried changing culture and religion to (among other things) Norse and unreformed Germanic. I tried letting the game run for a few months. I tried forcing succession (by killing the player character). I then tried the independent Chera duke in the 867 start. In all of these tests, the decision was present in Jerusalem but not in Mahoyadapuram.

This seems like a bug to me. However, I have no explanation for why the decision is available in my in-progress game but is not available in a new start.

 

[eastcoastceojam]

^ Thanks for looking into this, and helping me confirm the issue with this Holy Site.

 

[Serenity84]

Are you zealous?

Interestingly being zealous does not prevent conversion this way

 

[jonjowett]

Interestingly being zealous does not prevent conversion this way

Huh. As you say, interesting!

 

[Yashichi]

I figured out why this is not possible.

secretly_convert_to_nestorian_holy_site = {
       ...
        potential = {
            tier = COUNT
            NOT = {
                location = { religion = nestorian }
            }
            OR = {
                is_holy_site = nestorian
                any_de_jure_vassal_title = {
                    is_holy_site = nestorian
                }
            }
       ...

To take this decision the province cannot be of the religion you are trying to convert to. This is presumably because there is a separate decision for converting to the religion of any owned county, and if both were enabled the religion would show up on the list twice. However, that other decision currently does not work correctly due to a bug, so neither option works!

 

[Ceebie]

Hi, we are aware of the issue. thank you for the report.

 

[Thanat0S]

As for patch 3.1 (KKAD), the issue still exist: at least for me.