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Barkhorn

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One line summary of your issue
War for papal lands Impossible if title in question is a barony-level title

Game Version
3.2.0

What expansions do you have installed?

Monks & Mystics,
The Reapers Due,
Conclave,
Horse Lords,
Way of Life,
Charlemagne,
Rajas of India,
Sons of Abraham,
The Old Gods,
The Republic,
Legacy of Rome,
Sword of Islam,
Holy Fury

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Please explain your issue is in as much detail as possible.
I am Empress of Britain and have just come of age. I try to do my coronation, and the Pope requests that I recover his lands in Orbetello. The problem is, he still rules the county. He wants me to recover the barony of Grosello. I can't declare war on the mayor of Grosello. I'd have to declare war on the Pope, which doesn't make sense. Why would the pope want me to attack him? I tried to upload my save, but the uploader thing wouldn't take it. Is there some other way for me to send it?

Steps to reproduce the issue.
1) Hold emperor level title
2) with console commands give any baron-level title to a heretic
3) try to get coronated by the pope

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I ran into a different, yet related issue. In my game, a Tengri adventurer/host took control of Orbetello, and started raiding everyone in Italy. Since I was Duke of Tuscany and Pisa (in addition to King of Italy), I decided I'd use the Papal War to return Orbetello to Papal control. The war wasn't too difficult, since I had 8k troops by this point, and the Tengri adventurer only had 4k troops. I sieged down all of the holdings, then enforced my demands.

Imagine how annoyed I was when the Tengri adventurer remained an independent count in control of Orbetello. The resulting deal was supposed to return Orbetello and all lower holdings to the Papacy, but the game acted as if I had made a white peace. The only possible thing I can think of that could have interfered with the peace deal was that a Byzantine count had somehow managed to enforce tributary on the Pope at the time (I didn't notice this fact until a few years later, when I zoomed out from Italy for the first time in a while).

I then decided that if the Pope wouldn't take Orbetello, I would. So, I broke the truce (literally 0 pagans anywhere near Italy, so no one cares) and holy warred Orbetello for myself. The Pope then became irate that I controlled Orbetello and not him, yet he would only request Duchies in Romagna from me in return for a coronation/lifted excommunication, not Orbetello, the one province that caused him a -25 opinion penalty. The kicker is that since it's part of the Kingdom of Romagna, and I hold Romagna as a Catholic ruler, I can't grant independence to the count of Orbetello. I'd have to destroy the Kingdom of Romagna, upsetting the dukes of Spoleto, Ferrara, Ancona, etc.

Apologies for the rant, I'm really annoyed with the Pope and his ability to excommunicate rulers that had their excommunication lifted yesterday, so the rulers have to take another 5 years? (I don't know how long because the game interface doesn't tell you) before they can request their excommunication be lifted once again.