Confirmed CK III - Fabricate Hook scheme disabled for "Wandering" characters and those without "Located in" status

[voxx42]

Short summary of your issue
Fabricate Hook scheme not possible for many characters

Game Version
1.4.0

What OS are you playing on?
Windows

What platform are you using?
Steam

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Have you tried verifying your game files (Steam only)?
No

How much "pain" is this causing you?
8

Please explain the issue you experienced in the most condensed way possible
Many characters, maybe up to 50%, cannot have Fabricate Hook used against them. The issue does not seem to happen with Ruler characters, only for non-ruler characters. I do not notice any other pattern to the issue - it happens with male and female characters of different cultures and faiths.
Also, all "grayed out" messages for fabricate hook are the same, shown on the attachment, for this issue and for other reasons the scheme can't be used (e.g. child characters).

Please explain how to reproduce the issue
I made a custom Roman/Hellenic ruler with sadistic/paranoid/deceitful personality traits, default rule set with ironman enabled, and tried to fabricate hook on a non-ruler female to get a wife since opinion is very low towards my character. It is a new campaign since 1.4.0 was released, not an old save.

Is there anything else you think could help us identify/replicate the issue?


I have attached a save game
No

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[voxx42]

Update: The bug appears to apply to all "wandering" characters. Landed, courtier, and guest characters are OK.

 

[voxx42]

It also disabled even for characters with titles and courts if they don't have a "Located in X" status

 

[NamelessTheSecond]

Hello voxx42,
Thank you very much for the report! I have added the issue about not being able to fabricate hooks on wandering characters to our database and the team will have a look at it. However, I was not able to reproduce the issue with theocratic rulers or mercenary company captains. Could you maybe provide your save so that I can see why this is happening for you?

 

[voxx42]

Hello voxx42,
Thank you very much for the report! I have added the issue about not being able to fabricate hooks on wandering characters to our database and the team will have a look at it. However, I was not able to reproduce the issue with theocratic rulers or mercenary company captains. Could you maybe provide your save so that I can see why this is happening for you?

Thanks for looking into this. The issue does not seem to apply to all theocratic rulers or mercenary companies per se, but to rulers that do not have the "Located in" status that you can see when mousing over a character. However, I was only able to find 4 characters that meet that criterion and all are unlanded theocratic rulers. As far as I could tell, all unlanded mercenary companies have the "Located in" status, as do all landed theocratic rulers such as Martino of Ravenna and Luitbert of Munster - fabricate hook can be used on all of those characters.
I pinned the 4 unlanded theocratic rulers I found in the save file attached.

 

[NamelessTheSecond]

Hello again voxx42,
Thank you very much for the clarification! I have passed this information and the save file on to the dev team. This will help a lot in pinpointing the cause.