CK v. 1.04a causes critical errors

[Sekenr]

At least on my machine. I used to be on techincal support forum before, compaining about CsTD. Sorry about the ruckus, since it was a faulty memory stick o After replacing it it worked fine with 1.03b but 1.04a now causes critical errors, which I've never seen on any other paradox game

 

[Castellon]

What kind of "critical errors" are you taking CTDs or do you get an error message?

In either case make sure you have already updated windows, and all your video and audio drivers. Also ensure the basics are covered.
1) Rename the AVI folder to AVI_back
2) Set the color depth to 16BIT
3) Turn off everything in the background like E-mail/ICQ/Messenger, Virus protection and everything in the system tray beside the clock.

 

[Sekenr]

No, no CTD's anymore, since I replaced the memory stick. Its a windows error message- something like "System encountered a critical error, application needs to close". Don't remember the exact words, but tis the sort of message when you have an option to send an error report. Is 1.04a compatible with SP2 ?

 

[Castellon]

Okay make sure you follow the three steps I listed above and update your video and audio drivers.

Then next time it happens I need the exact error message.

 

[Flori]

Is 1.04a compatible with SP2 ?

SP2 in itself is not game-friendly update. Many games working with Direct-X are experiencing problems due to that. It may be necessary to remove SP2 to get CK to work properly. If you do, be sure windows does still have SP1 installed (or install it if it hasn't). If you wan't some of the security features that SP2 has to offer you should get a Firewall like for example Zonealarm.
It its simplest version it is free of charge, and it can be found here.

 

[Castellon]

I have not seen others complain here about SP2 interfereing so much we could not solve the problem though.

 

[unmerged(33952)]

3) Turn off everything in the background like E-mail/ICQ/Messenger, Virus protection and everything in the system tray beside the clock.

Yeah, listen to the man! We all know the survival time of an unprotected Windows Box is around 20 Minutes these days (See "Survival Time" on http://isc.sans.org/index.php), but please turn your firewalls and Antivirus softwares off just to make see that Paradox games also CTD without them. Ah, now, that wasn't fair, usually they are quite stable - after 6-8 patches.

Sorry Castellon, but your advice is simply irresponsible.

 

[tombom]

Yeah, listen to the man! We all know the survival time of an unprotected Windows Box is around 20 Minutes these days (See "Survival Time" on http://isc.sans.org/index.php), but please turn your firewalls and Antivirus softwares off just to make see that Paradox games also CTD without them. Ah, now, that wasn't fair, usually they are quite stable - after 6-8 patches.

Sorry Castellon, but your advice is simply irresponsible.

You shouldn't leave it for any long period of time but it could be useful to see if it is the antivirus software that is causing it. Some do and some don't.

 

[Castellon]

Yeah, listen to the man! We all know the survival time of an unprotected Windows Box is around 20 Minutes these days (See "Survival Time" on http://isc.sans.org/index.php), but please turn your firewalls and Antivirus softwares off just to make see that Paradox games also CTD without them. Ah, now, that wasn't fair, usually they are quite stable - after 6-8 patches.

Sorry Castellon, but your advice is simply irresponsible.

Well I hazard to guess, that I have a vast amount of more experience and solving problems with Paradox games than you do.
I can tell you that after some people shut down their Antivirus programs all problems with Paradox games go away.

I also follow other game board support forum and can tell you that this is a common occurrence among lots of games.

And as for unprotected. If you are a smart and responcible surfer like myself you do not need any protection.
I have been on the internet since before WWW I have never had a firewall or antivirus protection and never had a virus or been hacked in anyway.

As this is the only post you have made I assume you registered just to post it. If you maintain that kind of posting habits I predict you will not maintain your posting privileges long.

 

[unmerged(9510)]

end of CTD's

1) Rename the AVI folder to AVI_back
2) Set the color depth to 16BIT
3) Turn off everything in the background like E-mail/ICQ/Messenger, Virus protection and everything in the system tray beside the clock.

Thank you for your advice Castellon. I have got no more CTD's

 

[Castellon]

Great!

 

[kingsword]

renaming the avi folder seems to solve my CTD problems while loading a campaign too, i didn't need to close anti-virus software and have win XP SP2 loaded. thanks from the bottom of my heart! :rofl:

i wonder what keeps me from deleting the directory anyway.. need more space for the savegames..

 

[Castellon]

My list is to solve a number of potential problems, some will work for some others for others.
Glad your problem is solved.

regarding deleting the folder:
Do you mean the save game folder?
If you reboot you should be able to delete the folder.
Or you can just manually delete the files you have not used in that session.

 

[Sekenr]

I've decided to ignore this error since it now only happens when I try to quit CK

 

[Castellon]

Tell me exactly what the error says and I can help, If you would rather live with it, well, that is up to you.

 

[jpd]

Well I hazard to guess, that I have a vast amount of more experience and solving problems with Paradox games than you do.
I can tell you that after some people shut down their Antivirus programs all problems with Paradox games go away.

I also follow other game board support forum and can tell you that this is a common occurrence among lots of games.

I wholeheartedly second this. Antivirus software as a cure is in a lot of cases worse than the problem. I lost count in how many cases anti virus software turned out to be the cause of index file corruptions in the databases we have deployed with out customers.

I've had it installed on one of my PC's four or five years ago, for one monday morning only. It took only that long to get utterly fed up with the system instability the anti virus software was causing.

Now, scanning software for adware and trojan horses is something entirely different. Those pesky things are the real problems these days, and you need special scanning software for that, like Lavasoft's Adaware or Spybot search & destroy. Regular ani virus software won't even detect those, let alone remove them.

Together with a decent software firewall (not that piece of junk Microsoft integrates into XP), and preferrably a NAT enabled router for your internet uplink, will ensure your PC stays clean.

Jan Peter

 

[Castellon]

The funny thing was, I do not even mention to turn Firewalls off, yet he quotes me as saying that.
Takes all kinds to make a world, I suppose.

 

[unmerged(33952)]

Sorry it took me so long to visit again, but I currently have a lot of other things going on.

I can tell you that after some people shut down their Antivirus programs all problems with Paradox games go away.
I also follow other game board support forum and can tell you that this is a common occurrence among lots of games.

Yeah, I know that. I also know that FarCry is one of the very few games that cannot be played (MP) with ZoneAlarm running. Now, is that Zonealarms or FarCry's fault? Also, would you play for hours with ZA turned off? I wouldn't.

And as for unprotected. If you are a smart and responcible surfer like myself you do not need any protection.

There we are again. Highly irresponsible. It's like saying "If you are carefull with whom you sleep you don't need any condoms". Might be true, but then.. better safe then sorry. Oh, and the first exploits of the MS04-028 (GDI+) Vulnerability have already surfaced - looking at a jpg (or gif or any other graphics extension) can already get you a backdoor if you're not patched up (or have an updated virusscanner running). It's a nice world out there

The funny thing was, I do not even mention to turn Firewalls off, yet he quotes me as saying that.
Takes all kinds to make a world, I suppose.

3) Turn off everything in the background like E-mail/ICQ/Messenger, Virus protection and everything in the system tray beside the clock.

Where do most of the non-microsoft-supplied-firewalls have an Icon that you can use to "Exit" the firewall? Right, in the system tray beside the clock. Also EVERYTHING sure includes a firewall, doesn't it?

Yes, it takes all kinds to make a world, some try to make it safer and others ... have unprotected intercourse

 

[Castellon]

If you don't want my advice don't take it!
I do not say play Over the internet for hours with no Firewall!
I am trying to remote diagnose a problem. I am seeing where the conflict arises.
The user is free to turn it back on when they have tried it. Further if they are that concerned they can unplug their connection before trying it. that is only common sense for the paranoid.
Since you were not involved in this discussion and have a problem with my advice anyway, I will strongly suggest to you that you refrain from posting further in this forum, lest you find posting priveledges revoked.

 

[unmerged(34887)]

If you don't want my advice don't take it!
I do not say play Over the internet for hours with no Firewall!
I am trying to remote diagnose a problem. I am seeing where the conflict arises.
The user is free to turn it back on when they have tried it. Further if they are that concerned they can unplug their connection before trying it. that is only common sense for the paranoid.
Since you were not involved in this discussion and have a problem with my advice anyway, I will strongly suggest to you that you refrain from posting further in this forum, lest you find posting priveledges revoked.

Please refer to my post regarding my computer system crashing and burning upon installation of the game out of the box and then after installation of 1.04a. The windows protection error generated is VDD(03)+0001816 ERROR:00:0028:C0231DC6 at least on mine and this was generated both times. At this time this game is unplayable and basically am out the money.