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May 9, 2023
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" with help I figured it out, thank you all! "

Even before I created Brittania it wouldn’t let me create the North Sea empire. I lived to be 78, I inherited the 3 titles you need plus wales and a hand full of other king titles. Started as Bjorn, still doesn’t show the major decision for none of the brothers? Someone please help! Or if any mod? I know I did everything right for the achievement. Thanks in advance.
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Alright, so I play on PC, but I checked the wiki for requirements, and it says that a) you need a DLC (Northern Lords), b) you can't already be an emperor (did you keep backup saves? That could help), and c) you need to have controlled all three kingdoms for thirty years. How long have you controlled the kingdoms? That's the most probable issue here.

If it isn't the issue... maybe the problem is your Level of Fame? You need to be illustrious.
 
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Generally, if the option doesn't show in the decision list, that means you are missing a fundamental requirement, such as Culture, or have too high a tier title.

The things that could be disqualifying you:

  • Northern Lords DLC
  • Need to have North/West Germanic heritage
    • Could one of your heirs have changed culture at some point to one with a different heritage?
  • Tribal or Medieval era
    • I doubt you're past this, but noting regardless
  • Can't be an Emperor
    • You stated the decision was gone before forming Brittania
  • The Kingdom of Danelaw can *not* exist
    • If the Danelaw title exists, it has to be destroyed for the decision to show
If all these conditions are met, the decision should at least be visible, regardless of the other requirements (Level of Fame, Land, etc.)

Note: I'm not sure if dissolving the Empire title will allow the decision to return if all the other conditions are met; I assume yes, so if you can figure out what is wrong you can maybe get an heir all the required titles, dissolve the Empire, then wait the 30 year period.
 
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Below is the code for seeing the decision. Something in there is what you are missing OP. Based on what you've said the only all that seems to be left is either that you don't have Northern Lords or that the Danelaw destroyed England.
Code:
    is_shown = {
        #DLC check.
        has_fp1_dlc_trigger = yes
        #Standard filter checks.
        is_landed = yes
        exists = dynasty
        OR = {
            has_government = tribal_government
            has_government = feudal_government
            has_government = clan_government
        }
        #Must be within the North/West Germanic cultural sphere.
        OR = {
            culture = { has_cultural_pillar = heritage_north_germanic }
            culture = { has_cultural_pillar = heritage_west_germanic }
        }
        #Must be in the vague region.
        any_held_title = {
            tier = tier_county
            title_province = {
                OR = {
                    geographical_region = world_europe_west_britannia
                    geographical_region = world_europe_west_germania
                    geographical_region = world_europe_north
                }
            }
        }
        #Can't already be an empire.
        highest_held_title_tier <= tier_kingdom
        #Not repeatable.
        NOT = {
            is_target_in_global_variable_list = {
                name = unavailable_unique_decisions
                target = flag:flag_secured_high_kingdom_north_sea
            }
        }
        #Eliminate edge-cases where we've lost all territory in one of the component kingdoms.
        title:k_england = { is_titular = no }
        title:k_denmark = { is_titular = no }
        title:k_norway = { is_titular = no }
    }

Tribal or Medieval era
  • I doubt you're past this, but noting regardless
It is a requirement, but weirdly not required to see it.

The Kingdom of Danelaw can *not* exist
  • If the Danelaw title exists, it has to be destroyed for the decision to show
Can still see the decision even if the Danelaw exists, just can't take it.

Note: I'm not sure if dissolving the Empire title will allow the decision to return if all the other conditions are met; I assume yes, so if you can figure out what is wrong you can maybe get an heir all the required titles, dissolve the Empire, then wait the 30 year period.
That would work as the decision only checks if you currently have an empire title. Though I don't know of an easy way to dissolve an empire title such that you are a king again.
 
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Below is the code for seeing the decision. Something in there is what you are missing OP. Based on what you've said the only all that seems to be left is either that you don't have Northern Lords or that the Danelaw destroyed England.
Code:
    is_shown = {
        #DLC check.
        has_fp1_dlc_trigger = yes
        #Standard filter checks.
        is_landed = yes
        exists = dynasty
        OR = {
            has_government = tribal_government
            has_government = feudal_government
            has_government = clan_government
        }
        #Must be within the North/West Germanic cultural sphere.
        OR = {
            culture = { has_cultural_pillar = heritage_north_germanic }
            culture = { has_cultural_pillar = heritage_west_germanic }
        }
        #Must be in the vague region.
        any_held_title = {
            tier = tier_county
            title_province = {
                OR = {
                    geographical_region = world_europe_west_britannia
                    geographical_region = world_europe_west_germania
                    geographical_region = world_europe_north
                }
            }
        }
        #Can't already be an empire.
        highest_held_title_tier <= tier_kingdom
        #Not repeatable.
        NOT = {
            is_target_in_global_variable_list = {
                name = unavailable_unique_decisions
                target = flag:flag_secured_high_kingdom_north_sea
            }
        }
        #Eliminate edge-cases where we've lost all territory in one of the component kingdoms.
        title:k_england = { is_titular = no }
        title:k_denmark = { is_titular = no }
        title:k_norway = { is_titular = no }
    }


It is a requirement, but weirdly not required to see it.


Can still see the decision even if the Danelaw exists, just can't take it.


That would work as the decision only checks if you currently have an empire title. Though I don't know of an easy way to dissolve an empire title such that you are a king again.
Thanks! I figured it out :) I didn’t own the dlc!
 
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