CK3 Plot: Abduction

[fr-rein]

I wish we could do abduction as a regular plot. It is historical, it is possible and main difference from murder would be the fact that abducting high-rank characters would be much harder than killing them, but possibly much more rewarding.

 

[Slaughter]

Agreed.

Not to mention, it can come with the old element of blackmail. AKA the good ol' "I have your daughter/wife/mother."

 

[fr-rein]

Not to mention, it can come with the old element of blackmail.

Better than that, it would allow you to kidnap people to torture them to acquire their secrets. There are many other possible uses too.

 

[Ivashanko]

As long as we can try and ransom any character, for any reason. I hate it when my grandson is imprisoned and I cannot do anything to try and get him out

 

[Seon]

I would really like a Rescue plot for imprisoned family members or friends.

 

[Slaughter]

Better than that, it would allow you to kidnap people to torture them to acquire their secrets. There are many other possible uses too.

Ooooooh, good idea!

Could be related to plots, too. Imagine kidnapping someone you suspect is part of a plot, so he can spit out who are his collaborators

 

[fr-rein]

As long as we can try and ransom any character, for any reason. I hate it When my grandson is imprisoned and I cannot do anything to try and get him out

I think that ransoming them should be possible - but only when you know who stole your grandson of course or when they approach you. But in general I would say that the chances to steal your grandson, given he resides in a proper court, should be low and mainly enabled by having enough enemies/amoral courtiers with influence in court.

Much easier option would be stealing lowborn people, lesser nobles or, mainly, society-related plots (for example, kidnapping a maiden to interrogate her about Paulicians with a support of your holy people in court).

But in short, I think that it should be hard to do at first - and it can be adjusted later.

Could be related to plots, too. Imagine kidnapping someone you suspect is part of a plot, so he can spit out who are his collaborators

I think that this indeed can be a good alternative to imprisonment, especially if it seems quite risky. Though, unlike imprisonment, it would be harder to do - but if you have some leverage on them (a lover maid, some gold, traitors) you could try to pull it off.

It would be a more satisfying alternative to "just" killing them. But I do hope that it won't be as unclear as current abduction in CK2.

 

[Will Steel]

I support this. There is a reason every single major mod for CK2 had implemented abduction as a plot.

 

[Andrzej I]

As long as we can try and ransom any character, for any reason. I hate it When my grandson is imprisoned and I cannot do anything to try and get him out

Agreed. Alternatively, paying a captor to keep someone imprisoned, so that we can perhaps recreate scenarios like Richard the Lionheart, imprisoned by the Duke of Austria, handed over to the Emperor, and then overcoming attempts by the King of France and his brother John to keep him imprisoned (because the Emperor refused the French bribe).