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I am continuing to try to play without being able to make much sense of the German manual. For the most part this has gone well, but I'm stumped by this:

I am playing England, and it is 1552. I have run a conquistidor around most of what is now the eastern United States and Canada and established colonies and trading posts Chesapeake and northward. Spain has colonies from Matagorda and Rio Grande southward.

Why is this: I am allowed to build colonies or trading posts in any of the territories in between us, but some (all the coastal territories south and west of Savannah)have a Spanish shield. This shield only appears when I press the colonization 'ship' icon. It does not prevent me from placing colonies in those locations.

I understand that Spain and Portugal have rights to everything discovered in the 'New World' but what has Spain done to make these 7 territories more theirs than any other territory? (I know that these are not the only ones they discovered, because a small army of theirs came and wandered the edges of my cluster of colonies. Yet no shields appear in those areas.)

Most importantly, what are the ramifications of my placing colonies in these areas, as opposed to anyplace else in the New World?
 
Second question: As Poland which has a shipyard I should get 1 colonist a year? Or 1 colonist only when I Construct that shipyard?

I did build shipyard and got 1 colonist, but only that year. For next 15 years I did not get any colonists! Is this ok or I do something wrong?
 
The shields represent provinces which Spain and Portugal consider 'theirs'. That is, if you colonize one of them, they have a permanent casus belli against you.
Also, these are the provinces they can attack without a previous declaration of war.

Pommy: Building a shipyard gives you +1 settlers/year indefinitely. If you aren't getting them, you're definitely doing something wrong. :D
 
I beleive Spain doesn't get a permanent casus belli, but as was said, they don't need a CB they simply just walk into the province... And as long it is an unfortified province they simply go in and take the province...
If you play against a human controlled Spain you can be sure they do just that, though the AI isn't too good at using this option...I've never seen Spain do it myself..
This condition is the effect of the Treaty of Tordesillas which ends later in the game.

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Beorn,

The claim goes to Spain/Portugal automatically, I believe. There is a line to which one side belongs to Portugal, the other belongs to Spain.

Can someone give a rundown of what the major events are in the game & what they mean? The Reformation/Martin Luther allows conversion to Protestantism. The Treaty of Tordesillas allows Spain & Portugal this privilege. John Calvin allows conversion to Reformed (anything else?). What about the Council of Trent & Edit of Tolerance (I think that is the other one)?

Thanks!

[This message has been edited by Tom (edited 24-12-2000).]
 
Tom, that's why I am confused. I had previously thought that Spain and Portugal were granted ALL territories discovered.

However, I found just a few unoccupied territories with Spanish shields marking them. I settled them anyway with no negative consequences. (By the way, I know that Spain had discovered other territories in the area.)

So which is it?
Does Spain own everything in the area of the U.S., thus having the right to take any without a declaration of war? If so, why are there Spanish shields on just a few?

Or does Spain only have such rights to a few territories? In which case, what are the game mechanics of claiming those territories when I play Spain or Portugal?

I feel that there is either a bug here, or there are rules I am unaware of.
 
Beorn:

I might be mistaken on the CB question... well, I bet I am.

However, all the lands that are covered by spanish/portugeese shields are theirs to claim as long as you are catholic. I don't recall wether this right is rescinded with the later events, but I don't think it is. (I always fortify my colonies so it has never been a problem..)

Tom:
Council of Trent gives, if I'm not mistaken, the possibility for catholic countries to convert to counter-reformed catholisim. (gegen-reformatish)
Toleranz edict rescinds this option.
 
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