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Here you can post AARs for C&C2.

Ruling and Rewards for AARs:

1492 - 1600: 300d
1600 - 1750: 500d
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I'll rule if an AAR counts as an AAR, so no short sentences! I want proper AARs people!

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The Many Expeditions of the King of Sweden

Well it all began in 1493 when the King of Denmark, without any provocation whatsoever decided to cancel our alliance and attack us. Now being the loyal vassals we were, we were taken totally by surprise and the Danish troops would have marched to Stockholm itself had not a band of brave adventurers surrounded the Sund and cut Copenhagen off from the rest of the mighty Danish empire.
Taking advantage of this we moved our army into Skane and the center of trade that is housed, and seiged it for the crown, in the north another army had marched on Ostetland but met with more resistance and were forced to fight a 4 year guerrila warfare with the Danes in order to starve out the fortress in the mountains. When Skane finally fell the Swedish army marched up to the barren fortresses of Finmark and Narvik where the Swedes climbed over the rocky outcroppings to take the heavily defended fishing villages.
On the sea the Swedish fleet met with mixed success, the main danish fleet was repeatedly crushed in battle but the raiding parties of 5 warships were commanded by a superb captain and inflicted 5 defeats on the main swedish fleet.
However as the main danish army starved to death in a vain attempt to take the source of Swedish power (Nyland) the swedish armies were landing in Gotland and Jutland, forcing the danes back to the hiding places in Norway and further cutting off the capital of Copenhagen.

Less than a year later Copenhagen itself was in Swedish hands and Denmark conceded peace, surrendering Skane, Gotland, Jamatland, Narvik and Finmark to the victorious Swedes.

Peace then reigned throughtout the land and trade was attempted with mixed results, although their now exists a strong swedish presence in Novrogod and Skane, and a growing company of trade in Flandern.
After 5 years the Swedish King decided that the Danes were too week to be allowed to guard any scandanvian peoples and so made an totally unprovoked attack on the already weakend King of Denmark, with a new level in military tactics. The war lasted 2 years in contrast to the 7 of the first war and ended with Sweden in control of all of what was Norway and Iceland and Greenland, and Denmark a mere shadow of itself.

This was not enough though and the Swedish troops marched into the Teutonic Order, which was a vassal of the King of Poland, a friend of Sweden's, and as we speak they are taking the towns without any loss of life to the civilians, because they are really Swedes that must be reunited with their true homeland.

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Internationally the Duke of Muscovy expanded east with extreme predjudice killing infidels as he goes, Poland has betrayed their vassals to Muscovy for a share in the dividing up of the Grand Duchy. Brandenburg has expanded immeasurably helped by finding a treasure room full of Incan gold in Berlin, and now controls the north of Germany. Austria also consolodated their hold on the south of Germany, as they defeated France and the Ottomans to protect the HRE. The ottomans in response defeated the Saffavids in Persia and bought the islands in the Ionia from the Doge of Venice who have made major gains on the penisula. France have their hands in too many pies, with wars against England, Austria and Venice, gaining them Calais and Genoa but losing them Switzerland and Scotland to the Austrians and the English.
Meanwhile Spain and Portugal send men to the West and god knows what.
 
It was the year 1492 for those foul christians, or 897 for any rigtheous Muslim, and Sultan labby was bored, after inheriting a nice empire from his father, and he did not know what direction he would expand his empire, until upon one day he got spoken to by a big voice in the sky...

Big voice in the sky: "Sultan labby..."

Sultan labby: "Who's that. God?"

Big voice in the sky: "No I'm not God, you infidel, I'm Allah. Jezus christ, hasn't the mullah taught you anything."

Sultan labby: "Oh sorry, but I wasn't really paying attention in little sultanschool... By the way since you're here, wouldn't you mind telling me what I should do with this empire I got..."

Allah: "Expand it..., that's what you are ment to do with empires..."

Sultan labby: "But into where, the persians are mean and strong, so are the Hungarians and Mameluks, and those evil Ruskies scare me, and it's also so cold upthere..."

Allah: "Invade Persia, they're just a pack of shiity wussies anyway..."

Sultan labby: "Ok God, uhm I mean Allah"

And thus went Sultan labby on campaign against those shiity Persians. And as Allah said, it was an easy campaign , after conquering the last Persian stronghold, the Persian diplomats and the Turks came to an agreement: The entire area north of Tabriz and Kirkuk was seeded to the Turks, they would come back after Iraq later...

After the war, sultan labby sought advice from Allah once more.

Sultan labby: "Oh great Allah, were should I invade now?"

Allah: "Venice, since they have an understanding of how realpolitik works..."

Sultan labby: "What's realpolitik?"

Allah: "Never mind..."

And thus sultan labby DOW'ed the small Venetian trade empire, after about two minutes the Venetian doge came with a peaceproposal...

Doge Mulliman: "Ok Dude, I want peace, I'll give you Ionia and Ragusa."

Sultan labby: "Huh, what, the war hasn't even begun yet, and you come offering peace..."

Doge Mulliman: "Well I ain't got no time to wage war, and since you know time is money"

Sultan labby: "Ah ok, nice doing business with you..."

And thus sultan labby was at peace agin, and in his eternal boredom he declared war upon Hungary, that was untill Allah intervened and told him to delay his invasion untill 1526, it had something to with Mohacs and kings dying, and kicking Engels but with Suleiman...

But this meant sultan labby was bored again... so he sought advice from Allah again.

Sultan labby: "Ok, what to do know, I hear those Mamluks have a nice country..."

Allah: "Wait, wait a second, it's best that you delay your invasion untill 1510 (915 for any righteous muslim), just make sure you can enter Cairo as soon as possible and they'll crown you Caliph"

Sultan labby: "Hmm Caliph, nice title..."

And thus that was what happened, in 1510, he assembled an army of 75000 men, took the first ferry to Cairo, and assaulted the city, over 25000 men died, or artrited away, but in the end they were succesfull, Cairo was taken, and the egyptians were convinced that the Ottoman Empire, was the true Empire of Islam, and thus they just joined it. The Hedjaz, ruler off the holy cities, was also convinced off the power and might off the Ottoman empire and wanted to be vassalises. This event did lead us into a war agains those shiity Persians again. Which will be resolved in the nice session.
 
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AAR MUSCOWY 1492 - 1511
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AI NATIONS

Regarding the AI nations we have the 1 province minor Pskov in the West and the Golden Horde to the South East. To the South there is Lithuania (big) and Crimea.

Since there is gold in Samara we DOWed GH in spring 1492 and had intended to take Kazan, Samara, Ural and Orenburg to get a connection to the TI in the East immediately. This was important since we get a historic conquistador in around 1495. Test runs had shown that GH would give us those four if we asked for them (after a 100% victory) but would never offer them themselves. Now it turned out that Tambow (a GH province) got reb controlled shortly after the DOW and thus we could turboannex all of GH except their capital and Tambow.

TECHING AND CONQ

We then invested in LT for 9 years reaching LT 9 in around 1502 and meanwhile our conquistador run down throw the wilderness to explore the way to Samarkand (more of that later on) and then started working on the Siberian Corridor. He reached Enkan and founded a colony there (which is now a City, ready around 1508 I believe, a record?) and also found the way to Manchu and established diplomatic contacts with them. Then he run back the corridor mapping the rest of it. With a few exceptions only provinces in the far East and along Ob up to the Arctic Ocean is not revealed yet. And then down to the border of the Timurid Empire because...

WAR WITH TIMURIDS

With the intention of getting the maps of the Timurids (they knew 72 provinces we did not) and to be able to vassalise Pskov war was declared on the Timurids in around 1503. Their capital was in Samarkand and they do not know about the TI North of them why the war was easy at start. Babur himself had been spotten in Samarkand by our spies in 1501 but had then headed to the South for a war in India. Thus we DOWed and called for our alleis (Pskov and Crimea) who both of course rejected and then we DOWed them as well. All went well, Pskov and Crimea vassalised within 2 years and the medium fortress of Samarkand also fell for our Conq (4-1-1), they besiegers were never attacked.

But now something horrible... We got no maps... I was astounded :( and mad :mad: and my brain was in turmoil :wacko: WTF!!!! I then came to my senses and inspected the map and found out that there was no capital in Samarkand. It had moved to Kabul - a minimum mountain fortress. That is two provinces to the South of Samarkand and TI in between. The fact I knew about it reveals (I think) that the capital had moved even before the DOW and that Kabul got revealed when I DOWed. :eek:o Fortunately I had already started sending in looting parties and the way to Kabul was soon revealed but then distaster struck...

Babur was back. :eek: Babur 6-5-5-3 was back with 20k and attacked. Add to this that the moral of my enemy was not Strong as mine but Very Strong and this means catastrophy. I lost and retook the siege of Kabul endless number of times. I tried assaults to no avail. But finally by playing cat and mouse and sieging allover I succeded in splitting his attention and after 8 years of war we finally captured the mountain fortress and could go to peace just before the end of the session.

ECONOMY

Those extra 5 years or so of war with the Timurids cost us at least 2% inflation. We now have 5.6% inflation which is a little more than expected.

We have moved centra +2 and received a FAA in Moskwa because of the event referred to above.

Because of our high Aristo slider the BB is almost irrelevant. We lose 1 BB point every other 2 years.

All investment goes to Infra. Will reach infra 3 next session and then the big question is if we should aim for Infra 5 or Trade 3 with land 14 intermingled somewhere.

1% inflation has been invested in conversions which are so and so succesful (one succeded, one failed, one ongoing IIRC and add to that one through event). Doubtful to invest in conversions this early. Stab cost is not a problem currently.

NEXT SESSION

We will
1. colonise (firstly Angara and Buriat)
2. trade a little
3. Pick our cores from Lithuania
4. Try not to inflate anymore (but I will surely fail in that as usual...)
 
Dr Bob said:
Internationally the Duke of Muscovy expanded east with extreme predjudice killing infidels as he goes

As English is not my native langauge I would like to ask what "prejudice" means here?

According ot my dictionary prejudice means
1. to influence someone so that they have an unfair or unreasonable opinion about something or someone

Can't make that fit my expansion.

The dictionary also offers:

2. to have a bad effect on your opportunities

Do you imply that my expansion has a bad effect on your opportunities? :)
 
Prejudice is judging beforehand, so judging without really knowing what is going on. Bob is implying that the Orthodox Tsar is being ruthless to muslims because of prejudice ;)
 
Ah, how stupid of me, I loooked at the item about the verb precudice, not the noun.

Incidentally prejudice does not mean what you say it means Ozzeh, not even as a noun. It should mean that as that corresponds to the latin base of the word, but judging from my dictionary (an English one) that alternative you give as a definition is not among the possible ones.

But never mind, your suggestion did not fit Bob's usage either and now we have it from the horse's own mouth what he meant... ah yes, that particular horse being our Bob :D
 
Well as fun as it is to see you two rip out each others throats of the correct meaning of the word prejudice, do not try to understand why my use of it does not match with your definition of it because it is a cliche not a literal phrase ;)
 
Dr Bob said:
Well as fun as it is to see you two rip out each others throats of the correct meaning of the word prejudice, do not try to understand why my use of it does not match with your definition of it because it is a cliche not a literal phrase ;)

We weren't minding you at all of course ;)
 
Kingdom of Poland
(Nobleman's Republic of Poland)​

1492 - 1511​

The situation

In 1492 Poland was in a slightly bad situation. In the west there was a big alliance under the leadership of the Holy Roman Emperor and the east the Duchy of Muskovy expanded in the south and collected the provinces of the crumbled Golden Horde. So the King of Poland decided with accordance of the Sjem of course that there was a need to expand to keep pace with our mighty neighbours which surrounded us. Consequently we decided to declare war upon our archenemy, namely the Teutonic Order.

The war against the Germans

At the beginning there was a mixed success and our glory could struck back in front of Königsberg by Prussian troops. Additionally there were troubles on the border to the Hanseatic League. However at the end our troops succeeded due the offensive doctrine our military administration. Before the war we had arranged our future boundaries with the Electorate of Brandenburg and the Kingdom of Sweden and we stood to our words. In the west we took only Hinterpommern from the Hanseatic League and in the east we moved our boundary to Livland.

The war in the south

As we had ended our expansion in the west and east we begun to expand in the south and declared war upon Moldavia. This war proceeded without a problem and we took Jedisan and Bujak. Furthermore we brought rest-Moldavia under our influence how our agreement with the Ottoman Empire allowed it.

Domestic matters

Our lust of expansion was satisfied for the time being and so we attended to domestic matters. Thank to our mercantile economy our trade in Danzig ran excellent. As a result we enlarged our trade activity to Flandern. However there was a problem in Poland which can put out as deadly namely the power of the Sjem which we had been able to slightly limit it but the establishing of a full capacity of act for the King will take centuries. Nevertheless the efforts to break the power of the Sjem will continue.

The title of the Grand duke of Lithuania

Since the 15th century the King of Poland was also the Grand duke of Lithuania. Unfortunately the Lithuanians had his own government and the Grand duke had still less competencies than in Poland. For this reason the King of Poland decided to use a diplomatic crisis in Lithuania to unify the parliament with the parliament of Poland but unfortunately he failed. The Lithuanians was very disappointed about this effort that they cancelled their following. As a reaction the King of Poland decided to enforce his title with force of arms.

Our high aristocracy on their high horses got the important order to siege the regional capital of Kiew while our foot troops assaulted the other cities in the Ukraine. We succeeded that we could bring the Ukraine under our control until autumn and so we decided to order our army back to Poland for the winter and make a new echelon in spring…..


Duke of Austria
Chancellor of Poland :D
 
Because I’m lazy I won’t write an AAr, like I wrote before. I’ll just use Daniel’s and Duke’s style :p So lets get going.




The Kingdom of England.
1492-1511

The situation in 1492.

Domestic policies.

Our “story” begins in 1492. England was slightly decentralized and narrowminded. The new orders from the king were to fully centralize the country, and to remind narrowminded. The list of orders consist other settings like: “Raise the power of the people”, so the king is planning to maximize plutocracy. He made three decisions about the military, too. He said the country should become naval oriented; the royal army’s size can be kept low, but must have the age’s best equipments, and the generals and admirals should use offensive tactics. Also, the king wants to leave serfdom, and focus on free subjects. The question about free trade or mercantilism hasn’t answered yet.

Foreign policies.
By 1492, England seized most of the British islands. Wales and Ireland was under English control. However, there was another country in the isles. Scotland. Scotland can be located at the northern part of the isles. The about the three-fourth part of Scotland terrain is mountainous, which can be used as a great advantage for the defenders. England also had its last stronghold in the continent: Calais. However the king wanted to sell it to France.

English actions after 1492.

So the first thing to do was to establish contact with the French king. We offered Calais for a few hundred ducats to France, and we mentioned that a camping against Scotland will take place in the next few years. France didn’t accept the offer about Calais, and she threatened with war if we wage war against Scotland. After the conference our ambassador left Paris, and rushed back to London with the bad news. The king was whispering about “Fools..” and such things and he made an order about the serial buildings of galleys. The king hoped that the French king’s words were just empty, and he set the date of declaration of war against Scotland to late 1493. Till October numerous galleys have been built, so the king thought England is ready for war.

England sent the letter about the declaration of war to Scotland in 1493, October 4. The navy has been sent to the Straits of Dover to block any French shipping. Meanwhile – for great surprise – the French king was begging for money from the other countries so he can beat us.
Around 1494 the English navy beat the French one, and has been split up, so the navy could cover the whole southern shore of England. Meanwhile our armies destroyed most of the Scottish troops in Scotland, and the army has been split up to siege both Glasgow and Edinburgh. After 3 years of battles, sieges and dying the Scottish camping has finally ended, and Scotland accepted England’s demands in 1497. Scotland gave up Glasgow, Aberdeen and Inverness with their surrounding territory, and Scotland became the vassal of England. The other magnificent thing in this glorious year was the explorations of S. Cabot. He discovered new lands past Greenland, and most of us believe he probably discovered a new continent.

Sadly the war didn’t end in 1497. The French king thought England will give Calais to him freely. However the war didn’t last long after 1497, because in 1498 January, England sold Calais to France. After this war till 1511, England discovered as much as she could, and colonized a lot of territories.

Foreign actions past 1497.

Most of the other major countries had aggressive years. For example Sweden almost finished off Denmark by 1498. To keep up with Sweden’s speed, Brandenburg started annexing German minors one by one. The infidels in the east started killing each other. To be more correct the Ottomans started killing the other infidels. The most interesting war was between Austria and France. The superior Austrian troops under von Frundsberg completely outmatched France’s troops. After several years of fight even Venice joined against France. At the last months of the war, when it was clear that France can’t handle Austria alone, and can get destroyed with Venice’s help. The Ottoman Empire attacked Austria to help France, but by a major, and I say MAJOR, diplomatic failure by France, the French king made peace with Austria and Venice, leaving the Empire to handle them alone. The Turks couldn’t do anything else but accepting a white peace. Meanwhile Muscowy was killing the tribes to the east, and started exploring Siberia. And the countries of Iberia, Portugal and Spain, were colonizing and killing pagans in the unknown of the west…
 
AAR for Brandenburg, 1492 - 1511

Ok I'm gonna make it short since I have not much time at the moment.

What I did:
I made sure the Hansaetic league was occupied with Poland, while making sure Poland didn't take too much. Took a province from Saxony and one from Hessen. Made sure I had a set border with Austria. Took 3 provinces of the hanseatic leage. Let Hessen annex the remains. Took that province from Hessen then (low BB cost :D ). Took all provinces I could get without outright annexing. Vassalized Saxony and Cologne, annexing Kleves, Munster and Hannover. This made me end up with 13 provinces in the end, 2 vassals remaining. I am out of money now, so the 300 ducats for the AAR will come in handy ;) Hard to see what I'll do next session... Brandenburg is still likely to weak to war with anyone.

EDIT: Ok now have some more time so will expand this.

The secret of Brandenburg is managing the AI alliances well. If you get attacked by 3 AI minors, they can flood you with troops and kill you off. Having AI allies yourself can help, or make sure the AI is occupied elsewhere. The Hanseatic league was a big problem for me... I could take them on 1v1 because of AI stupidity, but they were likely to attack me if I warred someone else already. Or the smaller AI nations would jump on me if I warred Hansaetic League. Problem was solved by Poland attacking them, thus giving me space to attack Saxony. I had good relations with most other german minors, so they were unlikely to jump on me. In either case, I could've probably handled them. Key was later to avoid too high BB. This was done by letting the AI minors annex themselves. Best way to do this is have a leader yourself (like I did, a field marshall) with which you can steal all sieges, and DoW one minor (Hansaetic League in my case). Another alliance of minors can jump on them then if they are weakened. You can take all sieges and thus 100% warscore, taking all provinces apart from the capital. The AI alliance will continue the war and annex it. You can then take it from that AI nation again.

Problems now are mostly sliders. We are not offensive enough yet, and far too decentralised and narrowminded to keep up with the teching. We hope for some good random events...
 
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Brandenburg AAR: 1511-1546

Goals and economics
Goal for this session was to expand as much as possible, while securing our position. This meant we needed to get our offensive slider up to 9 at least or we'd be slaughtered by others with better sliders. So all slider movements were focused on offensive, and this was reached at the end of the session. We traded as much as possible in the session, till at the end our trading income was higher than our production income. Also, when protestant religion became available we converted our state religion and the provinces of Hessen, Munster and Kleves to said religion. Infrastructure level 3 was reached, and LT 13. Some NT levels too, but we don't care about those ;)Some cash was saved to build manufacturies in the future. I offered to exchange maps with many nations, but more than a few maps of Siberia I could not get :D

War with Poland
Anyway, enough of the (rather smallish) Brandenburg economy and more to expansion. At the start of the session we noticed Poland was warring Lithuania. This would probably bring them in a weakened state. Seeing as how Poland took Hinterpommern (which should be german) we decided to strike. The first good Polish leader (Tarnowski) was still 10 years away so our chance was now. We had 2 good leaders (4-4-3-1 and 2-3-4-1). Both were given an infantry army of around 20k in size. 20k cav and 20k infantry was held in reserve in Brandenburg, 20k cav and 20k infantry was in Kustrin to support the sieging armies. Both siege armies with leaders were used, one to siege Hinterpommern and one to siege Poznan. We expected it would take a while before Poland would be able to divert their army (reinforced with fresh recruits) to its western border. We had hoped to capture these 2 provinces before the army arrived. Alas, only Poznan was taken (just in time) when the Polish army of around 45k hit our 20k siege army in Poznan. We decided to retreat. The Polish army went on to Hinterpommern, but we had expected this and reinforcements were on the way. The Polish could fight for a few days, but in the swamp they didn't cause much losses. Then, 40k of our reinforcements arrived on the battlefield. The Polish army was soundly beaten and pursued. Rather than to lose his army and perhaps more than one province, the Polish monarch decided to offer peace for Hinterpommern. This was accepted by the Brandenburgian Margrave, and so we added Hinterpommern to our realm for a relatively small cost.

Further Expansion
Later, we diplo-annexed Sachsen (we need only one vassal to gain the MP bonus, and Cologne is catholic and so we cannot annex it). Now, how to expand more? We talked to the Austrian Archduke and came to a deal. For a sum of 300 ducats we could have the province of Silesia. Well worth the money, we thought. The Austrian Archduke is most friendly to us. Now, how to proceed? We will see next session. Brandenburg has a strong army now though, so it should be save from enemy incursion.

Happenings outside Brandenburg that might influence us
Austria had some major wars with France and OE, and got the upper hand. Austria is very strong now, but we don't mind that. The Archduke was friendly enough to sell us Silesia, so we see a large Austria as a good thing for all germans. Sweden annexed Denmark and built a nice fleet, also gained Portuguese maps. This would trouble us, considering Sweden no doubt views our rich north-german coastal provinces with envy, but the fact that it now has maps of new worlds might distract it. Enough for us to feel at least a bit safe from that direction. Poland made a strange move... They turned Protestant! We welcome this, as they are now converting their realm to faitful protestants. If some of these territories would find their way to Brandenburgian hands, we will be most happy for these conversions, will save us plenty of money :D
 
AAR RUSSIA 1511-1546


WHERE TO GO FROM MUGHAL

The war with the Mughals had just ended when the session started. The question was what to do with the armies present in Mughal land. To go back to the homeland or go somewhere else... The Mughal Empire was not large bit it stretched all the way to the river Indus. Then comes the nation of Gujarat. A nation with reasonable relation to Muscowy, he-he, we gained access to their land and sent our forces down South East into... yes into the highly taxed provinces of Bombay and Goa ;) They are now both prosperous Russian provinces with orthodox religion. :rofl:

I saw no comment about this in the game, perhaps it is only Russia who knows about India ;) (Well Portugal does, they have taken the Ganges COT).


DP SLIDER POLICY

In the big question Infra 3 or trade 3 the former won and we reached infra 3. However, there are no mony for refinieries. All census goes to colonists and traders. We have succeded in becoming the world number 2 trader, after Portugal who is by far the most succesful. Considering that Myscowy/Russia for 98% of the session got 4.8 merchants per year at stab +2 or better we are satsified with our achievement. At the end of the session we got between 6.8 and 7.8 because we have now reached trade 3 as well and established monopolies. One in Enkan, our Eastern SIberian outpost, one in Novgorod and hten one in a surprise location... take a guess while reading... which one could it be.... (do know that we know of 17 COTs, no one knows about more)... it is ...ah yes, it is Shanghai! Has that happended before that the first nation in EU exploring Shanghai is Russia? :p

We have advanced centra to 8 and also advanced inno a bit, thus we got only 1.2-1.6 colonists per year during the session. Which is good for economy. However we are now in the process of getting more, but not by normal means. We are in fact doing most DP sliders contrary to what people suggested in the thread where I asked for advice for DP splider tactics. But our last DP slider move had not been registered in the game save. I cant understand it.We made a move in Februari 1542 but there is no sign of it. I know the move well since it was so uncharacteristical for Russia. Well, if our GM lets me make it in between the sessions I would be most happy.

NEW CITIES BY COLONISATION

So new cities were constructed in Angara, India and Alga. A few more colonies to the East of Angara but due to the Indian foucs we did not reach Buriat this session, but we will the next.


INFLATION

Our inflation only increased with around 1.5% which is a new record for me in a 2nd session of a EU game :D


AI PROVINCES GAINED

We peacefully split Lithuania with our good friends in Poland. We are also in the process of splitting up Georgia with our good friends in Istanbul. Crimea has been reduced to one province and will be annexed the next session. The Golden Horde where annexed this session. But still BB is low, below 10. With Ivan the terrible as king and Aristo sliader at 9 my BB drops with 1 every two years.


RELIGION SWAPS

We are thankful that SWE finally got the possibility to change religion, as did the good Englishmen. We are likewise happy for our Polish brethren that they turned protestantic. We enjoy all players that bring something fresh into the game.

As ortho ourselves we care little if they are protestants or catholics. As long as they worship the same good as us, as does even the turks, we are happy.


TECHING POLICY

After having reached 3-3 in the eco techs the question is now
1. Trade 4
2. Infra 4/5
3. Land 14

A question that probably all big statesmen of Europe are contemplating right now. Presently the Ottomans and AUS are the only ones who have reached LT14. We are not a neighbour of AUS and are good friends with the Sultan. Our other neighbours SWE and POL likewise suck in LT. That speaks for Eco techs but prestige and safety means the focus should be on LT.

Presently infra 4 costs 23,000d with 2,000d invested so far.
Infra 5 costs 21,000d.
Trade 4 costs 12,000d.
LT 12 costs 5,200 with 100d invested.
LT 13 costs 6,300.
LT 14 costs 5,400d.

For fun I checked the numbers for some other nations. I took SPA as the most wealthy (and 2nd largest) and BB as the smallest nation in our game.

For example BB presently have the following costs
LT 14 3,833.
Infra 4 16,230d (around 7,000d less than us).

Spain has
LT14 for 6,175
Infra 4 for 26,000d.

Earnings per month are
SPA 135
RUS 95
BB 38

For me it means that LT14 (excluding monarch bonus) will take around 14 years while infra4+5 take around 27 years. This presupposes that income will not go up. But of course it will, and as long as it increases by not gaining new provines the teching speed will increase. And we only aim at getting a few new provinces the nect session, Crimea, some part of Georgia and Buriat.


AUSTRIA THE NO 1 TECHER?

It can be noted that the LT leader (together with the OE), Austria, is also leading in infra teching. 18,000d out of 20,000d invested needed to reach infra 4. And that done being involved in a lot of wars. We are impressed! Like Russia Austria is blessed with not needing to invest anything in naval tech :p


HOSTING AND SPEED

Thanks to excellent hosting and skilfully (but not always appreciated ;) ) chosen speeds we were able to play 35 years in the 4 hour session. Thus making up for the previous session when we had big problems starting up and only achieved 21 years.
 
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