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The only weak point of scenario were America and East Asia. Japan didn't have any real role, USA was even worse. They were lead by Lindbergh who created some kind of restored Monroe Doctrine: USA allies with most of Latin America, but then nothing happens.

I think that the scenarios of East Asia and America haven't been finished.

THIS IS A ROUGH PLOT SYNOPSIS:

It is similar to the second version. It still retains the basic 'WWI never happened' plot, but with several diverging differences. The second French Empire will be more dominate then the German Empire because it won the Franco-Prussian War, preventing Prussia from gaining the Alsace-Lorraine region in France and the powerful status it had in OTL. Because of this, the second French Empire was able to set up colonies in many places where in OTL there were Imperial German colonies, such as in in Africa and the Pacific. Germany still has colonies in Africa and the Pacific of course, but not as many in OTL as the Kaiser would like.

France still allies itself with Britain and Russia, which are similar to their real world counterparts. Russia still had a civil war, but he Bolsheviks were defeated through a combination of White Russian victories and French/European aid. However, by 1936 the country once again finds itself collapsing into civil war when the next generation of communist revolutionaries make a bid to rise up once more, inspired by a series of communist revolutions in other parts of the world, which France and the other Great powers have been trying to squash, as part of their "War on Communism". The Czar has contemplated having a second showdown with Japan to regain Russia's lost honor, and bring glory to his empire. Hopefully, this could make the people have faith in their Czar once again.

In the Americas, a strong, daring Mexican Empire has positioned troops along its shared border with the Union of Central America, a union of Central American countries backed by the US, which helped create it in the early 1900's after a belligerent Mexican Empire attempted to expand into the region. Many saw the expansion as a threat to US interests, especially in Panama, which Mexico desired for quite some time.

The US is very unstable internally. The nation is seen as 'dead' by the powerful European empires. The US is consigned to its own hemisphere for the most part.This causes such wealthy, powerful individuals such as General MacArthur and Henry Ford to plot against the government in a conspiracy known as the Great US Conspiracy. They plan to create a fascist dictatorship, expanding America's borders all the way to south America and even Canada. Of course, their anti communist views don't sit well with groups such as the IWW, who are at odds with the policies the conspirators try to pass, with help from the US government itself, in order to make it easier to take power in the nation.

Meanwhile, the CSA can only watch as the US falls apart from the inside. The CSA is yet to take some form of action. The CSA has warm relations with France and Britain. Yet an alliance is out of the question in 1936, for the time being. The CSA president believes that war in Europe is nigh, and has thus had doubts about becoming a part of the Entente.

In east Asia, four Chinese warlords vie for control of the Middle Kingdom. The Qing Empire does exist, but is dominated by French interests, and is reluctant to go to war with the Chinese warlords. For the time being, unification of China under Imperial Chinese rule is out of the question. They have a very strong defensive fortification network build along their border, and are guaranteed by France, if the warlords ever get too strong.

Japan, which in ATL still occupies Manchuria and Korea, yet unlike OTL, it failed to annex the Republic of Formosa. By 1936 it aims to expand into mainland China, taking advantage of the lack of unity in China. It also plans to invade the Republic of Formosa once again to add it to its growing empire.

The pacific is largely dominated by France. Germany still controls a considerable number of islands still, and claims several French owned island chains in the pacific.

India is divided between British India and the Indian Republic. The Indian Republic was founded in the 1920's when a mass uprising of Indians kicked the British garrison out of northern India. A failed counterattack by commonwealth troops that resulted in thousands of casualties on both sides convinced the British Empire to recognize the Indian Republic as an independent nation. By 1936, Indian Republic leaders have spoken openly about liberating the rest of India from British rule. Gandhi is a chief advocate however, of peace. It is yet to be seen if Gandhi's message of peaceful revolt will be heeded by the Indian Republic's government.



This is the world of The War That Never Was

I have some questions about this scenario.

1. If France defeated Prussia in 1870, Could Prussia unite the German? would France let Pussia annex the South German states?

2. How could Germany (Prussia?) built a powerful navy and expend overseas? How could Britian and France allow it happened?

3. Had Japan got any benefit during the Russian civil war?

4. How about the south America?
 
1) Good point. Maybe we should stick with the original version where France still loses the war, but staved off complete collapse
2) I don't know...again, its kind of flawed.
3)I have no idea what your talking about. I assume your referring to the Russo-Japanese war. They got half of the Sakhalin island. It also helped lead to the Russian civil war.
4) I forgot about them. Lets just say the Empire of Brazil still exists :)
 
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The only reason I am reluctant to have France still lose the Franco-Prussian war is that I find it very unrealistic that it would have prevented its own collapse after such a major defeat. It basically lost a huge portion of the nation to Germany(Alsace-Lorraine) and its pride. Those reasons above pretty much sealed its fate.

If there was some way we could have France win, while still explaining why a unified German empire still formed would be great. I see at as slightly more likely then a Loser France still holding onto its second empire.

Then again, we could just scrap it and have the French Third Republic in the mod.
 
I haven't any knowledge about modding....

But I can make or design flags for this mod.

And I can also make cparks icons.
 
I must admit I've been reluctant to actually do anything serious with the mod...not that I have given up. I wish I knew how much everyone on here has actually gotten done. Can we all agree to report at least weekly how much we have all gotten done?

Anyways, keep up the good work everyone associated with this mod.
 
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Concerning the original pteap mod, what exactly was the point of the W.H.T.O(is that the correct acronym for the alliance?), which was comprised of S. America and the US?

One thing I never understood is if President Charles Limbergh gets elected, how/why in the world would he go about invading Canada when he is still part of the current, democratic government(in other words they wouldn't let him invade Canada + isolationism)?!? It seemed rather silly.

Then again, our mod's America having a fascist coup and invading other nations seems rather unlikely, yet I guess less silly...kind of.
 
new event:

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#The Mexican Empire's reaction
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event = {
id = 3738
random = no
country = MEX

name = "The Mexican Empire's reaction"
desc = "text"
style = 0

date = { day = 0 = month = january = 1936 }
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december = 1963 }

action_a = {
name = "We will be ready"
ai_chance = 85
command = { type = dissent value = -5 }
command = { type = manpowerpool value = 250}
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -20 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Maybe we should wait and see what happens"
ai_chance = 15
command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = 10 }
command = { type = domestic which = interventionism value = -1 }
}
}
 
I doubt it's very likely to have Germany unified if France wins the Franco-Prussian war. France would never allow Prussia to unify the German states.

There are only two plausible ways in my opinion: Have the French losing Franco-Prussian war (together with Alsace and Lorraine), but keep Bonapartes in power (according to my plot from previous Pteap, where loyalist officers prevent republican revolution).

If Prussians are defeated by French, wouldn't if be better, if you make Prussians defeat by Austrians already? This way, Austria would stay the leading German-speaking force. Prussia could be even dominated by Austrian influence (imagine Central Powers with Austria as leader, and with Prussia having the status of IOTL Austria-Hungary).

If you are going to use the second option, you can have strong Austrian Empire which controls South German states as puppets (Bavaria etc.) and with Prussia as loyal sidekick (with some of it's own puppets among the North German states). Maybe even having the Bavaria anexed by Austria, to increase the strength of Austrian Empire? Austria should also have some colonies.

In second option, you have basically the similar situation as with Central Powers and Entente, with diffrence that Central Powers are lead by Austrian Empire (no need to reform it to Austria-Hungary) and that Bonapartes are still around in France.

Btw, I still don't get it, are there Confederate States or not? American factions can be divided among the alliances. Mexican Empire is lead by Iturbide dynasty with ties to Habsburgs, so Mexico could be pro-Austrian.
 
There will be a CSA added later on in development.(Which I must admit has seemed to have grounded to a halt for the time being as we are still fleshing out the new story/ideas, but the mod dev status is still OK.). I like idea 2, it seems more creative then idea 1(original PTEAP plot is kind of cliche); Of course, Everyone else has to agree to it.

It be cool if the Mexican Empire is pro-Austrian. Also, If you haven't followed the story already, we got some of the plot done for North America. Basically, in a nutshell, The USA has begun by 1936 to "decay" due to decades of isolationism, combined with strikes by communists and anti-European-ism. This causes a group of disillusioned business men, politicians, and officers led by General MacArthur to form a secret cabal tasked with ushering in a new age for America, by forming a fascist dictatorship hellbent on conquering all in it's path.

Both the CSA and Mexican Empire are deeply alarmed by leaked reports (in mod canon) that the president and most of the former US government were executed/arrested, raising fears of a second Mexican American War or even a second American civil war. The new, fascist country(renamed the United Commonwealths of North America) embarks on a war path, invading Canada, the CSA, and the Mexican Empire, angering Europe and leading to three bloody wars(Second Mexican-American War, Second American Civil War, and a war between the US and Great Britain/Canada.)
 
Right now I am working on a "trailer", of sorts, to promote our mod. Anyways, if you have finally logged back in to post on this thread, I'd like fore us to start discussing the story and changes/other stuff for the time being. I just feel, deep inside my heart, that It should be Prussia versus the Second French Empire for some reason...
 
A bit improved idea about Habsburg victory in Austro-Prussian war and Austrian domination over German states: What about having Austria uniting Germany instead of having bunch of Austrian puppets? This would mean having Habsburg ruled Germany with capital in Vienna actually, Germany from Baltic to Adriatic in fact. However, Greater German plan from 19th century (Austria plus German states) excluded Hungary, so Hungary should be independent German ally.
 
How do you like this background for our mod's load screen:


thewarthatneverwasload.jpg



OR:


thewarthatneverwasloass.jpg


Please rate on a scale from 1 to 10 based on quality and personal preference.
 
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I don't have enough time, skills and energy to actively contribute to this mod, but I'd be happy to propose new ideas and suggestions.

As for loadscreen, I like 2nd option better. I like the scene with tanks in the background, is it taken from some game?