conversion event fires for converted province

[lenny]

Last night playing the Roman emperor, I has the cultural and religious conversion event firing for Constantinople !!! In the same game, it also fires twice for Alexandria.

As this basically gives free prestige and piety, I do not think that this is wad.

Note that I use the 1066 bugfix scenario, but I doubt that this causes the problem.

Also, I have never seen some thing like that for Catholics, so the problem might be the orthodox conversion events.

 

[unmerged(29096)]

I might be wrong, but I think this is just what happens whenever heresy comes to an end in a province. Certainly I recently had Catholic -- but heretical -- Powys 'convert' to Catholicism. The weirdest thing about the event is that it resets the culture as well as the religion. I suppose in your case Constantinople was already Greek so it didn't matter, but my Powys became English which was rather annoying!

 

[lenny]

I might be wrong, but I think this is just what happens whenever heresy comes to an end in a province. Certainly I recently had Catholic -- but heretical -- Powys 'convert' to Catholicism. The weirdest thing about the event is that it resets the culture as well as the religion. I suppose in your case Constantinople was already Greek so it didn't matter, but my Powys became English which was rather annoying!

The case you describe is WAD, I think. In 1.03b the cultural and religious conversion event can fire for a province that has a different culture than the ruler, even if it had converted in religion before. It was a quick fix for those that wanted some cultural change events, I suppose.

My case is a bid different, however. Constantinople and the Emperor were both Greek orthodox, and there was no heresy in the province either.

 

[lenny]

After another Greek orthodox province embraced the advantages of Greek culture and orthodox religion last night I had a look at provincial_conversion_events.txt and methinks I found the problem. In the trigger condition for event 9007, orthodox culture+religion spread, it says

province_x_province_event = {       #orthodox religion + culture (spreading)
	id = 9007

	picture = "event_religion"

	trigger = {
		condition = {
			type = or
			condition = {
				type = and
				[b]condition = { type = from condition = { type = religion value = muslim } }
				condition = { type = to condition = { type = not value = { type = religion value = muslim } } }[/b]
			}
			condition = {
				type = and
				condition = { type = from condition = { type = same_culture } }
				condition = { type = to condition = { type = not value = { type = same_culture } } }
			}
		}
		condition = { type = from condition = { type = ruler_religion value = orthodox } }
		condition = { type = to condition = { type = ruler_religion value = orthodox } }
	}

If I am not terribly wrong, it should be

province_x_province_event = {       #orthodox religion + culture (spreading)
	id = 9007

	picture = "event_religion"

	trigger = {
		condition = {
			type = or
			condition = {
				type = and
				[b]condition = { type = from condition = { type = religion value = [i]orthodox[/i] } }
				condition = { type = to condition = { type = not value = { type = religion value = [i]orthodox[/i] } } }[/b]
			}
			condition = {
				type = and
				condition = { type = from condition = { type = same_culture } }
				condition = { type = to condition = { type = not value = { type = same_culture } } }
			}
		}
		condition = { type = from condition = { type = ruler_religion value = orthodox } }
		condition = { type = to condition = { type = ruler_religion value = orthodox } }
	}

Please correct me if I am wrong, but this look like the type of copy-paste errors I usually do while programming.

 

[Grosshaus]

Please correct me if I am wrong, but this look like the type of copy-paste errors I usually do while programming.

I'm no scripter, but I think that muslim part is correct. Somewhere it should be stated that the province in question is not Orthodox after all and IIRC there are separate conversion events for religions. At least the Pagan one was supposed to trigger much more often.

 

[lenny]

I'm no scripter, but I think that muslim part is correct. Somewhere it should be stated that the province in question is not Orthodox after all and IIRC there are separate conversion events for religions. At least the Pagan one was supposed to trigger much more often.

Well, I went through the entire event file and the trigger condition I highlighted is the same as the one in the cultural+religious conversion event for Muslims, Hence my assumption about the copy-paste error.

I am only an armature when it comes to reading and scripting CK events, but as I read it the current version of the event triggers spread of culture and orthodox religion from a Muslim province to a non-Muslim one. IMHO, WAD would look more like spread from an orthodox province to a non-orthodox one.

 

[lenny]

The above described issue is still around in 1.04a. As my observations in 1.03b are little orthodox conversions with the original events but good orthodox conversion (similar to other religions) with the proposed fix to the trigger condition, I was wondering whether this shouldn't qualify as a bug?

 

[Cat Lord]

These events need reworking anyway...

Cat