Costs of troops

[Norgesvenn]

Well... I haven't played all countries in the IGC, and I wonder which ones get "bonuses" according to the costs of the different sort of troops. I've noticed infantry is cheap in Russia (Oh, I was shocked...), that ships weren't too expensive in England... but I still wonder "Which countries have some sort of bonus in this area?"

Oh, and please feel free to make fun of my ignorance, too...

 

[unmerged(3408)]

Nonesence. Russia has cheap infintry. England's ships are cheap. And Poland-Lithuania has cheap cav.

 

[unmerged(3627)]

Originally posted by Petrus
Russia has cheap infintry. England's ships are cheap. And Poland-Lithuania has cheap cav.

Which is about it for costs. Turkey gets the extra morale boost, Portugal can explore with any navy, Spain gets free CBs against all heathen scum, and I have no idea what France's special bonus is but they're too damn strong even without one

 

[BiB]

Those are not special abilities though. Costs are just a list of letter codes in buildingcosts.csv.

France's special ability is better handling of natives.

 

[conquerant]

According to the instruction manula France's cavalry also fight better

 

[unmerged(3408)]

Oh my God. Someone read the manual.




Just kidding. I actually read the manual before I played the game. Didn't know about the French cav bonus.

 

[treedom]

Originally posted by Norgesvenn
I've noticed infantry is cheap in Russia (Oh, I was shocked...)

me too...but in a good way...

before i played russia for the first time i wondered how they were called a great power when they started off so crappy...i mean, half their provinces were colonies and the others were nothing special either...

then i saw the cost of the infantry and i started to understand (and then poland declared war on me in late summer, and lost half its troops by spring without really fighting me even once...i understood even better after that)

the only thing i don't understand is, how can it cost me more to send one letter, than to recruit 8000 men??

 

[unmerged(3627)]

Originally posted by BiB
Those are not special abilities though. Costs are just a list of letter codes in buildingcosts.csv.

France's special ability is better handling of natives.

Good point. But do Russia/Poland/England get any special ability other than the fact that their infantry/cavalry/ships are so cheap?

 

[treedom]

what do austria and sweden get?

 

[unmerged(5206)]

Just some stuff I noticed...

Venice starts with level 1 seige for all armies.
France has VERY cheap artillery 13? gold at start.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by Heyesey


Good point. But do Russia/Poland/England get any special ability other than the fact that their infantry/cavalry/ships are so cheap?

Could be. Prolly even. No one seems to know though

U can make any nation have the cheapest troop costs. However there is only one tag with a special ability and that vcan't be edited at all.

 

[State Machine]

England is the only colonial country I have played so I don't know, but Errant One told me that it is very cheap for England to send colonists, or that it has higher % chance, one or the other.

 

[Norgesvenn]

Thanks!
I didn't know anything about those "special abilities", actually... reminds a bit about the old Sid Meier classic "Colonization". Does this mean that the Dutch will be able to send merchants around to CoTs at a lower cost, too?
One question, which may be a bit out of place here... I run EU on a 64MB Pentium 200, and it is actually fairly fast. What are your experiences running it on higher spec computers? Is it really, really smooth and fast?

PS... has owned personal computer since mid-eighties, hence has seen everything from C64 to Win2000...

 

[unmerged(1095)]

Originally posted by Norgesvenn
Thanks!
I didn't know anything about those "special abilities", actually... reminds a bit about the old Sid Meier classic "Colonization". Does this mean that the Dutch will be able to send merchants around to CoTs at a lower cost, too?
One question, which may be a bit out of place here... I run EU on a 64MB Pentium 200, and it is actually fairly fast. What are your experiences running it on higher spec computers? Is it really, really smooth and fast?

PS... has owned personal computer since mid-eighties, hence has seen everything from C64 to Win2000...

Going to 128MB made a big difference (even with a 600mhz Processor) in the speed and smoothness.
I would suggest it will also make a big difference to EU2.

 

[Norgesvenn]

I'm happy that they'll offer us a deal on new PCs for home use in my company, then. Even more enjoyment and pleasure from the EU-series...

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by State Machine
England is the only colonial country I have played so I don't know, but Errant One told me that it is very cheap for England to send colonists, or that it has higher % chance, one or the other.

That's just the typical colonial nation bonus all the big colonisers have. England's special ability is the reformation of heretics event. They get that quite a lot even when random events are off.

 

[swilhelm73]

Advantages of EU majors

Spain - CBs on non-Christians

Portugal - Can explore with any navy unit, default leaders have a siege value = 1

Russia - super cheap infantry

Poland - cheap cavalry

England - greater chance of getting the event that changes a home nation province's religion to the state religion, cheap ships

Austria - cheap artillery, high starting diplomatic relations, starts off as Holy Roman Emperor

Prussia/Brandenburg - cheap artillery

Sweden - cheap artillery, ridiculously good leaders that make you know the game was made by Swedes

Turkey - High troop moral

France - don't know...

 

[BiB]

Leaders, buildingcosts have nothibng to do with special abilities!

 

[Dark_Teuton]

Also, Englands infantry get higher fireratings than others on some techlvls and Frances artillery get better with tech than others artillery.
And muslem cavalry get some bonus before a certain techlvl is reached.

The actual figures can be found in db\land.csv

 

[unmerged(3627)]

Originally posted by BiB
Leaders, buildingcosts have nothibng to do with special abilities!

They do for game purposes, for all that you can cheat by editing them The ability to build infantry for 1 ducat instead of 14 is a very special one.