btw would be nice if desicion is made before tuesday tho so if we restart you stil need time to edit ect
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So current status:
A, 1 vote
B, 3 votes
Indifferent (both works), 1 vote
So currently democracy would indicate restart. As I am not going to be in any way busy tomorrow, I can do the edited scen tomorrow, but I will need few things from you:
A) Statistics of your count, use Jarkko's system to create them (see my sig for link)
B) Name, dynasty, DNA and birthday (birthyear shall be 1048) for your count
C) A province where you wish to be count in, with following restrictions:
- It may not be only province of any existing ruler
- It may not be default capital of any duchy or kingdom (so no Ile de France or Brugge)
- It has to be catholic prov and part of catholic realm
I shall also give you initial wife to save you from furious wife hunting contest for best initial brides. I shall need stats, name, DNA and birthday for her as well.
If you have anything to ask, please do. A small FAQ will be here:
Q: Where I shall find dynasties?
A: Look into dynasties.txt in DB
Q: How I set DNA?
A: Use for example DNAmaker tool that can be found in Scenarios subforum.
Q: I don't wanna use DNAmaker, what will my DNA be?
A: Either I shall use my evil imagination or you may point any existing character in any normal scenario and say "I wanna look like that guy"
Q: Is there any special effect for picking a dynasty name that is also held by a ruler somewhere?
A: Technically you could let those people inherit you through daughters, but you will be considered that you lose if you let people not related through males inherit
Q: What culture my ruler may be?
A: Any culture that is reasonable in the region you chose, so no georgians in Ireland.
Q: What my ruler's name can be?
A: Anything really, but I will appreciate names appropriate for the culture. See character_names.csv in DB if your imagination fails you.
Q: Why I can't pick county already held by some 1 prov count / duke?
A: Because it's much more of pain for me and might alter the scenario unpredictably.
Q: I have some question not answered here, what do I do?
A: Ask it in the thread or via ICQ from me.
A, 1 vote
B, 3 votes
Indifferent (both works), 1 vote
So currently democracy would indicate restart. As I am not going to be in any way busy tomorrow, I can do the edited scen tomorrow, but I will need few things from you:
A) Statistics of your count, use Jarkko's system to create them (see my sig for link)
B) Name, dynasty, DNA and birthday (birthyear shall be 1048) for your count
C) A province where you wish to be count in, with following restrictions:
- It may not be only province of any existing ruler
- It may not be default capital of any duchy or kingdom (so no Ile de France or Brugge)
- It has to be catholic prov and part of catholic realm
I shall also give you initial wife to save you from furious wife hunting contest for best initial brides. I shall need stats, name, DNA and birthday for her as well.
If you have anything to ask, please do. A small FAQ will be here:
Q: Where I shall find dynasties?
A: Look into dynasties.txt in DB
Q: How I set DNA?
A: Use for example DNAmaker tool that can be found in Scenarios subforum.
Q: I don't wanna use DNAmaker, what will my DNA be?
A: Either I shall use my evil imagination or you may point any existing character in any normal scenario and say "I wanna look like that guy"
Q: Is there any special effect for picking a dynasty name that is also held by a ruler somewhere?
A: Technically you could let those people inherit you through daughters, but you will be considered that you lose if you let people not related through males inherit
Q: What culture my ruler may be?
A: Any culture that is reasonable in the region you chose, so no georgians in Ireland.
Q: What my ruler's name can be?
A: Anything really, but I will appreciate names appropriate for the culture. See character_names.csv in DB if your imagination fails you.
Q: Why I can't pick county already held by some 1 prov count / duke?
A: Because it's much more of pain for me and might alter the scenario unpredictably.
Q: I have some question not answered here, what do I do?
A: Ask it in the thread or via ICQ from me.
count = born on june 9 8/3/4/9/8/8 proven accountant , wise , proud name =Diederick
dna = 05060210020007
deflandre dynasty
countes = born on july 4 8/3/4/9/8/8 midas toughed , heretic , suspicious
name =Elisabeth
dna = 07050805100003
"of Yperen"dynasty for wife
ill go with the count of yperen (prov next to brugge)
"of Yperen"dynasty for wife
dna = 05060210020007
deflandre dynasty
countes = born on july 4 8/3/4/9/8/8 midas toughed , heretic , suspicious
name =Elisabeth
dna = 07050805100003
"of Yperen"dynasty for wife
ill go with the count of yperen (prov next to brugge)
"of Yperen"dynasty for wife
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Padova province id = 355
Luca Borghese, count of Padua
M4 D6 I6 S8 H8 F8
Fortunebuilder, Temperate, Honest
Italian catholic
Born 12th of November 1048
DNA 04000408010012
(dynasty id = { type = 12 id = 13008 }
name = "Borghese")
Delinda Andreotti, his wife
M6 D5 I4 S9 H8 F8
Midas Touched, clubfooted, lisp
Italian catholic
(dynasty id = { type = 12 id = 13001 }
name = "Andreotti")
Born 3rd of March 1049
DNA 04000405030006
Luca Borghese, count of Padua
M4 D6 I6 S8 H8 F8
Fortunebuilder, Temperate, Honest
Italian catholic
Born 12th of November 1048
DNA 04000408010012
(dynasty id = { type = 12 id = 13008 }
name = "Borghese")
Delinda Andreotti, his wife
M6 D5 I4 S9 H8 F8
Midas Touched, clubfooted, lisp
Italian catholic
(dynasty id = { type = 12 id = 13001 }
name = "Andreotti")
Born 3rd of March 1049
DNA 04000405030006
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Frederick Rheinfelden
Count of Nordgau
German Catholic
Born: December 2nd
Stats: M4 D7 I6 S8 H8 F7
Traits: honest, proud, fortune builder
DNA: 03040202020003
Condoleezza de Lorraine
Frankish Catholic
Born: December 29th
Stats: M3 D9 I6 S8 H7 F7
Traits: indulgent, generous, intricate webweaver
DNA: 03020002000404
Count of Nordgau
German Catholic
Born: December 2nd
Stats: M4 D7 I6 S8 H8 F7
Traits: honest, proud, fortune builder
DNA: 03040202020003
Condoleezza de Lorraine
Frankish Catholic
Born: December 29th
Stats: M3 D9 I6 S8 H7 F7
Traits: indulgent, generous, intricate webweaver
DNA: 03020002000404
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I'll be count of York:
Name: Henry Percy
Stats: 6/6/7/7/7/7
Traits: Intricate Webweaver, Proud, Suspicious
DNA: 08030409050303
Others: English catholic, born 21st nov
She'll be my wife:
Name: Alix de Pontchâteau
Stats: 7/7/6/6/7/7
Traits: Scholarly Theologian, Modest, Merciful
DNA: 08020409020304
Others: Frankish catholic, born 8th dec
Name: Henry Percy
Stats: 6/6/7/7/7/7
Traits: Intricate Webweaver, Proud, Suspicious
DNA: 08030409050303
Others: English catholic, born 21st nov
She'll be my wife:
Name: Alix de Pontchâteau
Stats: 7/7/6/6/7/7
Traits: Scholarly Theologian, Modest, Merciful
DNA: 08020409020304
Others: Frankish catholic, born 8th dec
Jarkko, Padua is already held by a bishopric at scenario start, so would you mind if I move you to Mantua, which is a neighbouring province?
Ah right, so not to bisopries thenByakhiam said:
If it is all the same, then I'd rather take Ferrara We do have the "Enforced semi-salic" -rule this time, right?
Well, I am more worried about the master assasin of York...Aldo said:No comments on my diplomatic wife?
If Byak gets a good Spymaster he'll crown himself king of Scotland or England in no time OTOH, I am going to make money. Lot's of money. And then some more. Hopefully tech-spreads from Venice are not too slow so I can use the money on something, Padua would have been the perfect place to suck the eastern wonders of Byzantium
Once I get claims I'll go and try to find myself a nice little Italian duchy. As my liege is the Papal controller, she might even ease the way and drop the prestige-cost for me Anyway, Aldo shouldn't have too much trouble finding brides to the kids of Frederick and Condolezza. Which should put Aldo again in a cool position to try to dagger-inherit a duchy again
Try and succeed.Jarkko Suvinen said:Anyway, Aldo shouldn't have too much trouble finding brides to the kids of Frederick and Condolezza. Which should put Aldo again in a cool position to try to dagger-inherit a duchy again
Are we only four players?
edited my post for count above , added dynasty of counts wife , aswell as changed stats slighty by 1point from martial going to intrigue
dynasty = {
id = { type = 12 id = 3 }
name = "de Villeneuve"
province = { 111 112 }
}
tag = C111
Count:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 398 } ##???
dyn = 3
tag = C111
name = "Philippe"
date = "10480101"
gender = male
religion = catholic
culture = "frankish"
score = { gold = 0.000 prestige = 0.000 piety = 0.000 }
attributes = {
martial = 6.000
diplomacy = 7.000
intrigue = 8.000
stewardship = 7.000
health = 7.000
fertility = 5.000
}
traits = { Proud = yes sceptical = yes lustful = yes Honest = yes merciful = yes Suspicious = yes Intricate_Webweaver = yes }
loyalty = 1
dna = "05546113141006"
}
wife:
name = "Ingrid"
date = "10480101"
martial = 6.000
diplomacy = 5.000
intrigue = 4.000
stewardship = 9.000
health = 8.000
fertility = 8.000
gender = female
religion = catholic
culture = "frankish"
Midas Touched, clubfooted, sceptical
dna = "68249850441014"
I have no idea if this is done correct but its gives 4 total and 40 for every char, so I can't see why it should be. Ohh I hope this is RP game, since I choose my traits to fit that too.
Either way I don't know if I can be perm anymore, just got a new job offer today and I might have to change my work schedule.
id = { type = 12 id = 3 }
name = "de Villeneuve"
province = { 111 112 }
}
tag = C111
Count:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 398 } ##???
dyn = 3
tag = C111
name = "Philippe"
date = "10480101"
gender = male
religion = catholic
culture = "frankish"
score = { gold = 0.000 prestige = 0.000 piety = 0.000 }
attributes = {
martial = 6.000
diplomacy = 7.000
intrigue = 8.000
stewardship = 7.000
health = 7.000
fertility = 5.000
}
traits = { Proud = yes sceptical = yes lustful = yes Honest = yes merciful = yes Suspicious = yes Intricate_Webweaver = yes }
loyalty = 1
dna = "05546113141006"
}
wife:
name = "Ingrid"
date = "10480101"
martial = 6.000
diplomacy = 5.000
intrigue = 4.000
stewardship = 9.000
health = 8.000
fertility = 8.000
gender = female
religion = catholic
culture = "frankish"
Midas Touched, clubfooted, sceptical
dna = "68249850441014"
I have no idea if this is done correct but its gives 4 total and 40 for every char, so I can't see why it should be. Ohh I hope this is RP game, since I choose my traits to fit that too.
Either way I don't know if I can be perm anymore, just got a new job offer today and I might have to change my work schedule.
So you missed the the bolded text with the go-go girls around itdevil said:
Every character has to have 1 educational trait and 2 other traits. Not more, not less (unless you take the 0-level education, insanity or some such that give bonus-traits).
Your character has 1 edcational, so that is correct. But he has six other traits, which is four too many.
Why can you only have two traits, where is the logic in that? I am within the total of 4 points in traits? I don't see what the bad thing is about my char being Proud, sceptical, lustful, honest, merciful and suspicious considering my educationJarkko Suvinen said:So you missed the the bolded text with the go-go girls around it
Every character has to have 1 educational trait and 2 other traits. Not more, not less (unless you take the 0-level education, insanity or some such that give bonus-traits).
Your character has 1 edcational, so that is correct. But he has six other traits, which is four too many.
EDIT: right now, it seems I can't play today... so guess it doesn't matter.
Because the intention of the rules is to make initially balanced characters. I don't say your character is heavily out of bounds, but it/he certainly does get more beneficial factors than he possible could from just two traits.devil said:Why can you only have two traits, where is the logic in that? I am within the total of 4 points in traits? I don't see what the bad thing is about my char being Proud, sceptical, lustful, honest, merciful and suspicious considering my education
If you want to discuss the character-generating system in general, please do so in the thread for it, so that others interested in the system may comment
There are after all quite a few characters already made with the system, and hopefully there will be lots of more , so any logical improvement suggestions are more than welcome
@Jarkko: Well, displacing any ruler, be it a bishop, count or duke is a more of a mess to edit than just chartering a piece of land owned by multi-prov county / duchy / kingdom into a new county.
@Jarkko: Yes, stick to semi-salic laws.
@Aldo: I believe we should be more than four, as at least Nitram did show some interest in ICQ and there hasn't been any word from Rezag, Cheech or RedPhoenix... But if it seems we are just four, we'll just have to stick to that.
@Devil: Sorry to hear that you can't make it.
@Jarkko again: Can you host for us?
@Jarkko: Yes, stick to semi-salic laws.
@Aldo: I believe we should be more than four, as at least Nitram did show some interest in ICQ and there hasn't been any word from Rezag, Cheech or RedPhoenix... But if it seems we are just four, we'll just have to stick to that.
@Devil: Sorry to hear that you can't make it.
@Jarkko again: Can you host for us?
Possibly, if no other with better hosting qualities is present.Byakhiam said:
As Temperate and Indulgent will move to the 0-point section, would it be too late to change for my character Coward to Honest?