Courtier events: I would be a better X

[The_Hawk]

Ok. There's an event series which I *think* are amongst the newly-added courtier events wherein one of your courtiers declares "I would be a better X" (where X is steward, chancellor, whatever.) You are given three options -- give them a prestige and loyalty hit, pay them off to shut up, or rebuff them, in which case they defect to a different court.

The problem: they can defect to your own court. I didn't actually select this option when it came up, but it's obviously the superior one, since you don't lose anything as far as I can tell.

Also, this event seems to fire off with abnormal frequency -- one of my sons has had it go off six or seven times in just a few years (including twice within a year of his turning sixteen). This might not be so bad, except he *wouldn't* actually be a better X (chancellor, I think) than the guy I've currently got. Perhaps some reduction in the frequency of repeats is in order?

 

[Swuul]

I have had 8 hours of experience with 1.03 now, and I've seen this only happen once. Perhaps because I play counts, and the wandering courtiers never seem to walk to my court, and on those few cases when they did they were apointed immeditaly (except that one time when I didn't notice a master theologian had walked to my court and he started complaining he'd be a good bishop).

 

[tombom]

As far as I've played (translate: not very much) these seem to go off one or two times right at the start, and then they become rarer. But they are really annoying, especially when your starting wife with 6 in intrigue complains she'll be a better spymaster...

 

[LongVin]

I had one person keep spamming me with that till I just let them defect. There should really be an option to let the person actually become what they want and give a huge loyalty hit to the current one.

 

[Darth Tracid]

You´ll most certainly see family members complaining much more often. Afterall, administration in those times were familiy business more times than not

 

[Cat Lord]

As far as I've played (translate: not very much) these seem to go off one or two times right at the start, and then they become rarer. But they are really annoying, especially when your starting wife with 6 in intrigue complains she'll be a better spymaster...

This is WAD.

The event will fire if no one has been appointed.

This is a gentle reminder in effect.

It will also fire if your courtier think (s)he is better than the one already appointed and has the appropriate education...

Cat

 

[lucaluca]

To me also is happening very rarely; I really don't like people when they complain for everything, I mean you can say I don't like this feature, but on the other end this is not your game, maybe someone else likes.

 

[Cat Lord]

The problem: they can defect to your own court. I didn't actually select this option when it came up, but it's obviously the superior one, since you don't lose anything as far as I can tell.?

This would be a very rare occurence, and I can't do anything about it.

Also, this event seems to fire off with abnormal frequency -- one of my sons has had it go off six or seven times in just a few years (including twice within a year of his turning sixteen). This might not be so bad, except he *wouldn't* actually be a better X (chancellor, I think) than the guy I've currently got. Perhaps some reduction in the frequency of repeats is in order?

This will continue to happen often if:
- the character asking for the position is proud and the character in position is modest
- the character asking the position, even with a lower stat, has a better education trait (i.e. if you appointed a hole in the pocket, and you have a good midas touched, even if attribute wise he is slightly less good, he will complain more often. The reverse is true: A character with a better attribute but worse education will be more quiet)
- The character has tremendous stat (>12+), even if whoever is assigned also has tremendous stat. After a while, it will become too costly for you, or you will annoy them anough for them to leave. This is to avoid players nesting all the best characters by marriage and depleting the AI courts of the good character.

Other than that, the frequency is not tremendous. You must have been very unlucky or very stubborn...

Cat

 

[Cat Lord]

To me also is happening very rarely; I really don't like people when they complain for everything, I mean you can say I don't like this feature, but on the other end this is not your game, maybe someone else likes.

Eeer... Sorry I don't get your point...

Are you happy or unhappy about this new event and why ?

Cat

 

[lucaluca]

Eeer... Sorry I don't get your point...

Are you happy or unhappy about this new event and why ?

Cat

Sorry my english tonight is awful!
I like this feature, and don't like people which report features as a bug, since they want it changed.
I mean if programmers followed every request, we would get tons of patch; the game has certain features, and it's insane to ask to change everything that you would have done in a different way.

 

[The_Hawk]

Other than that, the frequency is not tremendous. You must have been very unlucky or very stubborn...

So it would seem. Other than that initial occurrence, I've only had it pop up occasionally. I'll tell you, though, when it hit right near the beginning of the game, my dear son nearly bankrupted me.

I like this feature, and don't like people which report features as a bug, since they want it changed.

Criminy. Lay off, will ya? I like it the event, too; that doesn't mean that having your courtiers being able to defect to your own court isn't a bug (albeit an unfixable one, if I read CL correctly), or that the extreme frequency of occurrence in evidence at the time of my original post didn't seem highly unusual (which it apparently was). Hence, my effort to report what I felt was a bug.