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Chaingun said:
Problem is I don't think the game allows us to change unless our loyalty drops to a really low level which it won't with a human player's rule.

Just reading the thread; if you change to Royal Preogatory, it will add a negative loyalty modifier so eventually you can defect.
 
Chaingun said:
It's hardcoded into the game. There's no way to affect that with scenario editing. If Paradox let me view their source code I could probably reprogram it though. :rolleyes:

Actually, I think that only applies to AI vassals. In fact, in my MP experience, human vassals' loyalty doesn't matter at all, even when I was the excommunicated bastard kinslayer King of France, and my human vassals had loyalty of 0, they couldn't revolt, and even when their loyalty to the former AI King of France was 0 (kinslayer too, he was my father, I tried to kill him, he tried to kill me, etc.), none of his human vassals could revolt. However, in both cases, the realm fell apart almost, I would have been destroyed had it not been for the fact that human vassals need claims to DOW their liege (or triggered by alliance), so I could just give all my extra demesne to them.

But, they could switch lieges, whether it's because their loyalty was 0 or not I'm not sure.
 
Gen. Joohoo said:
The division of Pommern



Signed Halsten. king of Svitjod and Gauthjod and Lappland

The Swedish King is obviously a drunkard, and jealous of Danish earnings. The danish, norwegian allliance will slap you down if you dare enter our realm.

All swedish vassals are encouraged to join sweden or denmark, where scrutage is always half of what the swedish king demands :D
 
devil said:
Btw... we should change that to 13 CET, or find another day. 20 cet is way to late, I am playing Throne of heaven at 20 cet on sundays :wacko:

Well, if we change, there is no way I can make it, and I hope in the other post you mean to Norway or Denmark.
 
devil said:
The Swedish King is obviously a drunkard, and jealous of Danish earnings. The danish, norwegian allliance will slap you down if you dare enter our realm.

All swedish vassals are encouraged to join sweden or denmark, where scrutage is always half of what the swedish king demands :D
obviously the Danish king doesn't own Pommern yet so I can't be jealous on something that the Danish king owns only in his dream. I don't claim Pommern(as I call the area) but you must think that we have a Norwegian player now.
But ofcourse you can discuss that with Sterkram.

Halsten, king of Sweden

Extra: we must have atleast one more Danish player and one more Norwegian player, that is obviously or else because with the Crowns of Norway and Denmark can use their scutage like they want. On my behalf I have to lower mine before something bad happens for the King's best.
 
Gen. Joohoo said:
obviously the Danish king doesn't own Pommern yet so I can't be jealous on something that the Danish king owns only in his dream. I don't claim Pommern(as I call the area) but you must think that we have a Norwegian player now.
But ofcourse you can discuss that with Sterkram.

Halsten, king of Sweden

Extra: we must have atleast one more Danish player and one more Norwegian player, that is obviously or else because with the Crowns of Norway and Denmark can use their scutage like they want. On my behalf I have to lower mine before something bad happens for the King's best.
Denmark earns nearly thrice as much as Sweden. There is no room for a Duke in my territory. If you allow me to slap around Mecklenburg, I will make it a player duchy.

It is quite unfair sweden is allowed to annex 4 pagan provs each 5 years, while I can annex 1...

And yes I expect Sterkarm is new perm Norway. My brother and ally that I will protect :)
 
devil said:
Denmark earns nearly thrice as much as Sweden. There is no room for a Duke in my territory. If you allow me to slap around Mecklenburg, I will make it a player duchy.

It is quite unfair sweden is allowed to annex 4 pagan provs each 5 years, while I can annex 1...

And yes I expect Sterkarm is new perm Norway. My brother and ally that I will protect :)
i said that the claim of all Pommern is too much but not one single province, go ahead :)
 
devil said:
Of course. :cool:

about time maybe another day than sunday then? Like thursday maybe?

I could play 20.00 CET on Thursdays but I'm not too keen on this when school starts. Also, I'm afraid that wouldn't suit Sterkarm as that would be 13.00 for him on a Thursday...
 
Gen. Joohoo said:
i said that the claim of all Pommern is too much but not one single province, go ahead :)
You miss my point, Denmark is really restricted, because of that rule. I need to wait 20 years before I can attack mecklenburg. While sweden can annex all in 5 years...

It will cost me a fortune in troops to defeat them for 1 prov...
 
Chaingun said:
I could play 20.00 CET on Thursdays but I'm not too keen on this when school starts. Also, I'm afraid that wouldn't suit Sterkarm as that would be 13.00 for him on a Thursday...
Well sundays are bad for me, as I forgot I had throne of heaven from 18-23 cet.
 
devil said:
Well sundays are bad for me, as I forgot I had throne of heaven from 18-23 cet.

Hmm we do need some kind of solution then, although the Sunday time was selected with special care. I'm open for more suggestions.
 
Chaingun said:
Hmm we do need some kind of solution then, although the Sunday time was selected with special care. I'm open for more suggestions.
Well, we could play from 13 cet Suday? or 12...

We also can treat game times more flexible. We could play on thursday or friday whatever till school starts and then stick to sunday.

Im available all except monday after 2200 and Wednesday.

So im up for the game this thursday if Sterkarm is available.
 
Seen said:
Well, we could play from 13 cet Suday? or 12...

We also can treat game times more flexible. We could play on thursday or friday whatever till school starts and then stick to sunday.

Im available all except monday after 2200 and Wednesday.

So im up for the game this thursday if Sterkarm is available.

If we play 13.00 CET on Sundays that become 13 - 7 = 6 AM for Sterkarm... We will have to ask him if that works...
 
Joohoo said:
i can't play this Thursday or i am not sure, i will have an IRL before í say something
If you would TURN on ICQ or IRC that would help a bit Joohoo ;)

PS: Byak and me want to continue that England Duchy game Joohoo, so would be helpfull if you let me know you could to? Others are also invited to play of course ;)
 
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Seen said:
If you would TURN on ICQ or IRC that would help a bit Joohoo ;)

PS: Byak and me want to continue that England Duchy game Joohoo, so would be helpfull if you let me know you could to? Others are also invited to play of course ;)
i have ICQ on now;) but i am already speaking to you there
 
It wouldn't work for me, actually...