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OK, so I started playing as the Count of Innsbruck and now I'm the King of Bohemia, a crusade was launched against Antiochea which I decided to conquer. So, I did, but nothing happened? Can someone explain? :confused:
 
The Crusades are started by Event and they'll end by an Event. There's a MTTH (mean time to happen) before the Crusade will end once the Target is in Christian hands. Having all of the Provinces that are next to it also in Christian hands increases the chances of that Event firing, other-wise, you just have to wait it out. It could end the next day or years down the road.

If you're the Papal Controller, you could also get an Event to end the Crusade.

Edit: The good thing about capturing the Target is you get lots of Piety, which should more than make up the small loss you get per month. And since you're still a relatively small Realm (Bohemia), you aren't losing that much per month. Also, as long as the Crusade is in effect, you could go capture a few Pagan provinces that are near you (Baltics and etc) and get more Piety than you would normally..
 
But I am the Papal controller, so shouldn't I get an event right now?

And I sent my men to finish the crusade just to get piety and lower my badboy (I'm just very bad right now I think, I was dishonorable scum for a very long time... :()
 
But I am the Papal controller, so shouldn't I get an event right now?

I said you 'could' get an Event to end the Crusade. Almost everything that happens in the game is tied to Events which each have a MTTH. That doesn't mean B happens when A is fulfilled, it just means that B might happen sometime once A is fulfilled. You just have to wait it out. In any case, sounds like a War fit your needs, as long as you didn't annex all of those territories into your own personal demesne. Force vassalization of those Muslims (and Pagans) is a good way of reducing BB, tho the larger you grow and the more Vassals you have (especially further away from your Capital) the more likely you'll have rebellions and the bad Events tied to that.
 
I said you 'could' get an Event to end the Crusade. Almost everything that happens in the game is tied to Events which each have a MTTH. That doesn't mean B happens when A is fulfilled, it just means that B might happen sometime once A is fulfilled. You just have to wait it out. In any case, sounds like a War fit your needs, as long as you didn't annex all of those territories into your own personal demesne. Force vassalization of those Muslims (and Pagans) is a good way of reducing BB, tho the larger you grow and the more Vassals you have (especially further away from your Capital) the more likely you'll have rebellions and the bad Events tied to that.
OK.

And yes, last time I took over huge parts of the middle east (as Brabant or something) all I got was rebellions and stuff...

And I have no vassals except for the ruler of Schywz who I diplovassalised recently, although I'm going to install a ruler in Antiochea.

And is there no way to increase the amount of provinces you can have in your demense except having a king with high intrigue? Except becoming King and stuff (which I already have).

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EDIT: I've reconquered Antiochia... What now? Should I vassalise it again?
 
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Ah, and you're also playing with DVIP installed (and probably the +addon). So you'll get even more events for those far-away provinces. And with 4870 in Piety, I wouldn't worry about having to do any more crusading until your next Ruler inherits. ;)
Even if your Ruler got Crusader and Zealous traits, that amount of Piety would last for hundreds of years. lol
 
OK. But my demesne is about 14 or so provinces whilst I can only control 10 directly, is it worth it to create some vassals? I've got a huge court and family (my king is my starting one, 58 and soon his 12th child will be born, not to mention his younger brother who has even more)

Also, his first successor is just 10, so I'll have to hope my king survives another 5 years >_<

EDIT: Oh, and does it matter for the crusade if I control Antiochea directly or if I vassalise it?
 
OK. But my demesne is about 14 or so provinces whilst I can only control 10 directly, is it worth it to create some vassals? I've got a huge court and family (my king is my starting one, 58 and soon his 12th child will be born, not to mention his younger brother who has even more)

Also, his first successor is just 10, so I'll have to hope my king survives another 5 years >_<

EDIT: Oh, and does it matter for the crusade if I control Antiochea directly or if I vassalise it?

You could start getting bad Events if you Efficiency drops below 80%. Also, you get additional Prestige from having Dukes as Vassals (since you're a King) while no additional Prestige having Counts as Vassals. The lower your Efficiency, the less income each Province in your Demense gives and therefor the less troops it will supply.

Another great benefit to having Vassals, is the ability to use their troops free of charge.

Since your Ruler is getting up there in age, it might be wise to give your Heir his own Duke Titles. He will get immediate Prestige for each Duke Title you give him, plus he'll start building up Prestige and Piety each month from having Count Vassals and Duke Titles. When he inherits, there will be no loss of loyalty for those Vassals he brings with him while the your other Vassals will have a loyalty hit at the Change of Ruler. Even tho your Heir is only 10, as long as he's got decent Diplomacy/etc stats, he should be fine being a Duke. He'll get his own Court and will therefor have his own advisers adding to his stats. You just won't be able to pick his wife when he turns 16 (if he hasn't inherited by then). nor will you have any influence in any Events he might get.

As for the Crusade ending events, as long as the Ruler of the province is Christian (or the top Ruler of the Realm is Christian) that meets the requirement.
 
I made my son Duke but now when I die I get game over :wacko: How can this be?

If your son isn't a Bastard and since you're playing with DVIP (and probably +Addon and maybe Females Inherit), you mentioned he's had 12 kids so far and oldest son is only 10, so that means he's had older sisters. Did you marry them off, do THEY have sons? It's possible you have the wrong type of Inheritance law. There's one that the oldest child inherits (if a girl - it skips to HER sons) and if that boy isn't of your Dynasty (which he most likely isn't), it's game over.

If your Son is a Bastard, then switch to Elective Law, Load him up with enough Duke/Count/Vassal titles so he moves to the top of the list, then he'll inherit.

If your Son is legitimate and you're playing with the correct laws, then it's possible your Son got himself Excommunicated before he could inherit. But in that case, another son still in your Court or where-ever (or your Brother) should have inherited. So it sounds like the wrong Inheritance Laws combined with an Heir not of your Dynasty.
 
Why are you Capitalizing every Other Word? :p;)
 
Why are you Capitalizing every Other Word? :p;)

Paradox used the very same speech in their CK manual. I guess the idea is to avoid potential confusion in meaning - if the word is capitalized, then it is used in a narrow and technical sense, referring to some of the game's central concepts (as opposed to the meaning of the same word in everyday use (though sometimes the two meanings overlap entirely)).
And partly capitalized text also looks Much Cooler, doesn't it?
 
Thanks for all the help guys, but I stopped playing this guy some time ago... :rofl: And I've installed some mods and things so I don't think I can use him anymore... :(

But I remember that his son was no bastard, but that he had elder daughters that had been married and got children (altough I think everyone except one daughter is dead...)

Also, I wanted to experiment so I married one of them to their uncle and she got 2 sons before dying of stress, one of them was a worthless inbred but the other one turned out completly normal and with good stats :eek:o
 
Why are you Capitalizing every Other Word? :p;)

It's a major weakness of mine, I do admit. Mainly I do try to emphasize certain words and/or phrases. To highlight them in some way. Otherwise important points can get lost in the crowd. I know I could Italicize using the Forum posting tools but that doesn't come natural to me.

I'll do my best to cut down on visual aids in text.

Edit: Oh, and it wasn't every other word....



It was every third word. ;)