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this happens quite often, it only happens in mp games, and with alot of people ive played with, doenst matter wich country u use.
I presume the bug is already listed somewhere but i couldnt find it, so i note it anyway.
very nasty bug, makes mp games with bombers a total nightmare.
 
Ok I really need to more information here. I do not play MP myself so I have never seen the problem. If tactical bombing does work some of the time then either this is not the problem and it is just a coinsidence or it is a very specific type of tac bombing (like tac bombing on a province with AA for example). Is there anything else you can tell me?
 
no its very reproducable, it happens i think 1 out of every 3 times.
maybe its a combination and the CTD always happen when the planes arrive in the province they attack when i send the tactical bombers (also happens with dive bombers).
im 100% positive the ctd is because of the bombers, but if you need more info tell me what you need more, and ill give you, i really want this problem fixed as i only play mp games without bombers now, and i must say its much more stable that way.
but ofcourse its not as intended to be.
(it has nothing to do with aa in a province)
and i tested it with 2 other players who had the same problems
it happens when i use continues attack, and also when i use a single attack
 
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I am sorry to do thid but I need to ask a few stupid questions here. I want to know what we know and what we surmise here.

1) It happens every third bombing run or roughly ever third bombing run?

2) It can happen in any province type?

3) It only happens when combat is in progress?

4) It always happens at arrival of the planes?

5) It has nothing to do with model of the planes?

6) It does not happen if there is a bombing run in progress?

7) It does not happen if there are enemy planes in the province?

If you can answer these questions then I will try and mug another beta tester to see if I can reproduce this, if there is anything else you can add please do. With this information I hope to be able to find out why this is happening, because without Johan will not be able to figure out what to change to stop this happening.
 
1) It happens every third bombing run or roughly ever third bombing run?
roughly, sometimes it goes ok for 10 times, other times it CTD everytime i use them

2) It can happen in any province type?
yes ive seen it happen with japan, attacking netherlands, with germany in france, su and. and also the people ive played against have quite often with random countries.

3) It only happens when combat is in progress?
yes only with attacking units, so i can move them or regroup without ctd

4) It always happens at arrival of the planes?
yes, when they arrive in the province, so it goes fine when i order, but when they reach province, bang desktop

5) It has nothing to do with model of the planes?
ive played a lot of '36 scenarios, so maybe the planes are just to old, and designed to make you CTD

6) It does not happen if there is a bombing run in progress?
dont quite get this question.

7) It does not happen if there are enemy planes in the province?
ive only tried to bomb ground units without planes above them, so im not quite sure about this one.

btw ive played a lot of mp games now (sp is no challenge with current ai) and it happens so often im really suprised it hasent been mentioned yet here, as i ve spoken to 4 other players who had the same problems as described. hope you can fix this in next patch.
if you need any additional innfo let me know
 
Originally posted by casherings

6) It does not happen if there is a bombing run in progress?
dont quite get this question.


Ok I'll reprase this question. If you have planes already bombing the province then there is bombing run in progress. Does the CTD happen then?
 
Ok I'll reprase this question. If you have planes already bombing the province then there is bombing run in progress. Does the CTD happen then?

yes sometimes if theyy fly back to my own province and then return to enemy's, ctd, precisely when they reach the province, also sometimes when i send them on sontinues duty, the planes fly back and forth a few times, with no problems and then when they reach enemy province, ctd


i hope its a bit clear....
 
Well, I was hopping that I could at least narrow it done a little. No such luck I will try to mug one of the other betas for a MP test. If any other betas are reading this can you spare a little time for some MP action?
 
No one is has come forward to tkae me on MP. Maybe bumping this up should lure someone out. Sorry about this, but I work all day so arranging things like an MP gamne isn't that easy. Hopefully tonight.
 
Yes, this happens VERY frequently with me, especially when i attack when the enemy is retreating, more so for me then, but this crash happens a lot. And yes, the game crashes IMMEDIATELY when the planes reach the province. big bug imo, but it doesnt happen sp :rolleyes:
 
I can only agree with what Casherings said. I have encountered this bug quite often in MP. Facing this bug, we agreed not to use bombers anymore in MP... not the best solution obviously!

CTDs happen in about 1/3 of the bombing runs, and only to the attacking player. It doesn't matter if you order a single bombing run or a continuing attack. My experience is, that you have no problems with this when you are hosting a MP game yourself...
 
no, it crashes the host too, i play with Dynokeg (he has good hosting connection and comp) and we both crash because of this bug. Using the Tactical bombers a lot also LAGS quite a bit, we wondered for a while why there was soo much lag with only two players :D
 
are we going to solve the problem ?

now we have have acknowledged the problem, is it going to be fixed in the next patch !!? because mp games are no real fun without bombers, and when you are fixing can you also make the bombers a tad less strong ?
 
ok we seriously need to get this bug fixed, i just crashed (right about to go back in) and it was because of this bug and it is SOOOOOOO annoying, AND 1.02 for that matter, we REALLY need to get this fixed. im gonna post this in bug forum.
 
Originally posted by L G
ok we seriously need to get this bug fixed, i just crashed (right about to go back in) and it was because of this bug and it is SOOOOOOO annoying, AND 1.02 for that matter, we REALLY need to get this fixed. im gonna post this in bug forum.

It is just like the naval mp crash of EU2. I wouldn't count on it being corrected in the next patch.:(
 
Yep just want to confirm. Using a mix of pre-war tactical bombers and dive bombers with Germany against Denmark the game CTDs after a few runs, usually just as the plane touches down for refuel/re-arm.

After finding this post we started again and agreed not to use tactical bombing and the game works fine.

BUT This basically has negated full up war for us. Fighting minors in the early years is not bad without the bombers but without Stukas I (as Germany) do not want to face the Russian bear.

Please fix this. :eek:
 
I think I just discovered an interesting twist to this bug; I managed to get the tac bomber crash in an SP game...which was loaded from an MP save. The crash ocurred right as the bomber ceased its bombing run and was about to return to base. I reloaded it once more just to make sure it was the bomber that caused the CTD and it did it in exactly the same place.

EDIT: Or, then again, they may not be it. This save seems fond of crashing quickly, no matter what you do. :)
 
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