Default Inheritance

[Stars_and_Bars]

I'm not suggesting this for this mod, but in vanilla ck2 I was experimenting with what I could do to create an elective government, and I created a government where the electors were all young chaste women who would elect the next heir from among my dynasty depending on his traits and skills depending on which of the 3 "factions" they were apart of of. One faction prioritized strength(combat and martial), another prioritized intelligence(stewardship and intrigue), and another prioritized beauty(learning and diplomacy). Also seducing the maidens could increase the likelihood of them choosing your heir, or if you are the heir seducing them helps them choose you. Their opinion of you and their and you selected heir matters. You do get a vote, but their vote gets weighted much more.

Again I'm not suggesting that we implement anything of this sort, but it shows you that for elective government, our limitations are more or less at the boundaries of our imagination.

 

[hiigara128]

So aside from blocking absolute cognatic succession entirely, there's no way to edit the default gender succession law?

 

[Ruisuki]

I'm not suggesting this for this mod, but in vanilla ck2 I was experimenting with what I could do to create an elective government, and I created a government where the electors were all young chaste women who would elect the next heir from among my dynasty depending on his traits and skills depending on which of the 3 "factions" they were apart of of. One faction prioritized strength(combat and martial), another prioritized intelligence(stewardship and intrigue), and another prioritized beauty(learning and diplomacy). Also seducing the maidens could increase the likelihood of them choosing your heir, or if you are the heir seducing them helps them choose you. Their opinion of you and their and you selected heir matters. You do get a vote, but their vote gets weighted much more.

Again I'm not suggesting that we implement anything of this sort, but it shows you that for elective government, our limitations are more or less at the boundaries of our imagination.

dibella orgy succession haha

 

[Stars_and_Bars]

So aside from blocking absolute cognatic succession entirely, there's no way to edit the default gender succession law?

No, there certainly is a way. \common\laws\succesion_laws.txt
This is the code vanilla uses in absolute cognatic succesion.

default_selection = {
            factor = 1
           
            modifier = {
                factor = 0.1
                NOT = {
                    holder_scope = {
                        has_religion_feature = religion_equal
                    }
                }
            }
           
            modifier = {
                factor = 100
                holder_scope = {
                    has_religion_feature = religion_equal
                }
            }
        }

This is the code vanilla uses for Agnatic-Cognatic

default = yes
default_selection = {
        factor = 10
}

This is the code vanilla uses for Agnatic.

default = yes
        default_selection = {
            factor = 1
           
            modifier = {
                factor = 0
                has_game_rule = {
                    name = gender
                    value = all
                }
            }
           
            modifier = {
                factor = 100
                holder_scope = {
                    NOR = {
                        religion_group = christian
                        religion = west_african_pagan
                        religion = west_african_pagan_reformed
                        AND = {
                            culture_group = tibetan_group
                            NOT = { religion = taoist }
                            NOT = { culture = tangut }
                        }
                    }
                    primary_title = {
                        NOT = { has_law = status_of_women_3 }
                        NOT = { has_law = status_of_women_4 }
                    }
                }
            }
        }

Notice how in vanilla, of these 3 absolute cognatic is the only one which lacks "default = yes".

I'll let you figure the rest out.

 

[hiigara128]

OK cool. I will have to try that. However, would this mess with the EK countries/governments that need absolute coagnatic?

 

[Stars_and_Bars]

OK cool. I will have to try that. However, would this mess with the EK countries/governments that need absolute coagnatic?

It won't mess with their ability to become absolute cognatic, but it will mess with how many start absolute cognatic. I just opened up the EK file for succession laws and found the logic
Here's agnatic-cognatic

default = yes
        default_selection = {
            factor = 1
            modifier = {
                factor = 0
                holder_scope = {
                    OR = {
                        government = matriarchy_government
                        government = orsimer_government
                        culture_group = aldmeris
                        culture = atmoran
                        culture = nord
                        culture = skaal
                        culture = reachmen
                        culture = dunmer
                        culture = tangmo
                    }
                }
            }
        }

here's agnatic

default = yes
        default_selection = {
            factor = 1
          
            modifier = {
                factor = 0
                holder_scope = {
                    OR = {
                        government = matriarchy_government
                        culture_group = aldmeris
                        culture_group = nedic
                        culture = dunmer
                        culture = kamal
                    }
                }
            }
          
            modifier = {
                factor = 100
                holder_scope = {
                    OR = {
                        culture = orsimer
                        culture = tangmo
                    }
                }
            }
        }

here's absolute cognatic

default = yes
        default_selection = {
            factor = 10
          
            modifier = {
                factor = 0
                holder_scope = {
                    OR = {
                        government = matriarchy_government
                        government = orsimer_government
                        culture = tangmo
                    }
                }
            }
          
            modifier = {
                factor = 50
                holder_scope = {
                    OR = {
                        culture_group = aldmeris
                        culture = atmoran
                        culture = nord
                        culture = skaal
                        culture = reachmen
                        culture = dunmer
                    }
                }
            }
        }

here's enatic

default = yes
        default_selection = {
            factor = 1
          
            modifier = {
                factor = 0
                holder_scope = {
                    NOT = { government = matriarchy_government }
                }
            }
          
            modifier = {
                factor = 100
                holder_scope = {
                    government = matriarchy_government
                }
            }
        }

and enatic-cognatic doesn't even have a section of default selection, so no title can start out with it as the law.

Let me break it down for you. The first block of code says that matriarchies,code of malacath, all nords,dunmer, and the tangmo cannot start out with agnatic-cognatic law

The second block of code says that no matriarchies, no elves(high,dark,wood all except orsimer) no nedes (breton, colovian, nords, nibenean etc.) and no kamal can start out with agnatic law while the orsimer and tangmo have to start with agnatic law.

The third block of code says no matriachies, code of malacath, or tangmo can start out with absolute cognatic, but all the nords and all the elves except orsimer have to start out with absolute-cognatic law.

The fourth block of code says that only matriarchies can start out enatic and in fact they must start out enatic.

If you're angry that nords or nedes or whoever keeps using absolute cognatic law at the start, then obviously you have to change one or more of these blocks of code.