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If we don't have an England, there is not really any reason to play the last session, as it's pretty much England who holds most of the CoT's and thus will be the center of agression.
 
i was going to annex Nappy just after Wellington :p

we can make house rules of alliance for last session though.
 
Well in any case, if the game has ended, i will be working on DaD2 starting september 2nd.

I will use the current XI-1492, but make a few changes.

As i see it, the following will need to be edited:

- Slavonia, change manpower from none to something
- Slightly increased manpower in HRE (Habsburg was severly hampered in this game)
- Lowering Asian CoTs a bit more, by converting more provinses to fish. The value of trade is still too large, just look at dutch techs.
- Changing the available nations, havning DEN/SWE/BB/POL is to much in a too small area.
- Likely to be 11 playernations (POR, SPA, FRA, ENG, VEN, AUS, BRA, DEN/SWE, RUS, OE and HOL)
- Clearer rules


Ideas for campaign:

- Perhaps having holland from start as vassel of AUS and not able to break till 1580
- Fewer playable nations in Europe but some in Asia played
- If we can gather 15 players, nations like Japan, something in India, Persia and China could be played.
 
if we gather 15 people, 4 will retire first sessions ;)

I welcome extra leaders for poor-leaders countries like in Gotter2.

I welcome playing before Sep 1th :)
 
Aladar said:
- Changing the available nations, havning DEN/SWE/BB/POL is to much in a too small area.
I agree. With Denmark, you can basically skip BBurg/Prussia (without German culture), while allowing Poland. Sweden fits better with BBurg, IMO.

- Clearer rules
Definitely.

- Perhaps having holland from start as vassel of AUS and not able to break till 1580
Why not as a free nation?

I agree with Tonio on extra leaders for countries with poor leader files. In fact, why not make leader generation completely random? Delete all leader files and have an extended use of the random generator, with higher ranges, but standard average. It would make the game less standardized, with people not waiting for the kick-ass guys and instead act from situations at hand. I think that game-play would be made way more dynamic. For example, there is nobody who can threaten Nelson in our game right now. I think that's a major imbalance, as the game position is so different from history anyway.

Randomized leaders would allow France or Venice or Denmark to control the seas in the late game. Or Sweden/Poland to stand a chance when Suvorov doesn't come, or even have one of their own...
 
Or how bout a MT system, to give players a bit of control over the type of leaders they get? I like the idea of having just random leaders, but would like it even more if there was some rhyme and reason to it.

As for this game, lets plan to play eitherway. In a worst case scenario, with no England available, we ought to be able to get somebody in the game to play it again. But finding one player shouldn't be that hard, should it? Everyone plan to be here.
 
Think we'll just have it AI'd. We could otherwise just annex it to Denmark. But as it's your vassal atm anyway, it won't make a whole lot of difference either way.

Hmmm. Maybe that could be an option for your reward? Annexing Sweden to Denmark without extra BB, as opposed to 10kD + some BB reduction?
 
any MT system is too exploitable.

I propose to play today by house rules England+France vs rest of the world :)

Playing without England make pointless wasteful session for their gangers.
 
Yeah, I can do the edits this time
 
Tonioz said:
any MT system is too exploitable.

I propose to play today by house rules England+France vs rest of the world :)

Playing without England make pointless wasteful session for their gangers.

:) sound nice...
 
Orient will have to survive without Lion :(

I'm sorry guys, but I just find out that today late afternoon I have a job. I can't postpone it, so it means I will not play this evening. Sorry for so late information.
 
with HAL desparture, my idea is becoming most realistic to have entertaining session
perhaps we might think more should we need to balance sides.
As well, we can allow switch players to other countries at this conditions.
 
I would suggest a peace of the current war, ofcourse with gains for England and Russia who won.

Venice will offer Guandong and Zhenzai back to England, Russia will probably offer several provinses south of Russia.
 
King John said:
Think we'll just have it AI'd. We could otherwise just annex it to Denmark. But as it's your vassal atm anyway, it won't make a whole lot of difference either way. Hmmm. Maybe that could be an option for your reward? Annexing Sweden to Denmark without extra BB, as opposed to 10kD + some BB reduction?
I beg your pardon? Sweden was only my vassal due to event for a very short time (like 2 months), and then they cancelled, according to your decision it wasn't their fault to go into it. I am a Dutch vassal. It would be weird if I got a vassal of my own... -.-

But sure, I'd inherit the bastards. The nationalism is gonna be a bugger, but what the hey. But I still want 0 BB :D