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I'm running an observer game and one thing I'm noticing is that while the plague and other disease outbreaks do hit places hard with development decline which is good, the post-outbreak recovery happens way too fast. And it seems like a lot of that is from the "Disease Recovery" modifiers. It seems like the modifiers either give too much of a boost or occur in too many provinces, when the thing that allows some areas to recover more easily should be not having been hit as much by the disease in the first place. The effect during the diseases is good (Rome in my observer game went from 100 development to 83 during the Black Death for instance), but the recovery seems too quick and it only really becomes noticeable in the long term if an area is being constantly hit by outbreaks. Especially late game when counties have a lot of stacking modifiers, the base increase from the Disease Recovery modifiers can often make them boost the county's development by a lot more than the disease hurt it in the first place, so rather than getting back to where it was before, a county ends up benefiting from getting hit with an outbreak and then recovering much more than if there was no outbreak at all, which seems counter to what was intended.
 
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I think that plagues are fine in not actually stopping development from building up, as that's more of a secondary purpose to them. Development should, on average, increase after all. That said, the fact that you can get to the point where your disease recovery modifiers outstrip the development penalty that diseases bring is definitely an issue, and something that probably should be addressed, though I'm not sure exactly how to do it neatly with the current modifier tools we have.
 
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Between this and MASSIVE attrition to armies in Plagued counties, I want to see Plagues in general have the potential to be more devastating.

Both of these things would also make Plague Resistance matter a lot more.
 
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I'm currently observing this effect. Major disease recovery is helping me improve my development quite a lot.
It sort of should. The black plague did allow for a lot of power moving to the lower classes which allowed them to form institutions that let the next few generations flourish.

But it seems way too fast. You should lose a lot of development, then 50 to 100 years later start seeing yourself with more dev than if no plague happened.
 
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