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do science buildings effect civilians under civic education? or are they just migrating fast?

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I had 24k science from my utopian abundant civilians on my home world (late game, war in heaven, don't overreact). i checked my science jobs and they weren't really producing much in comparison, and i was in a consumer goods deficit, so i swapped my other district specialization to urban to give my civilians more housing. however, i've noticed that the civilians are pingponging a lot from colony to colony, like i had thousands of civilians, then none, then thousands again, etc...

and now, despite having thousands of civilians, i can't get back to the numbers i had before in science. did i lose out on buffs that those buildings were giving them? or is it just that they migrated away and there aren't as many now?
 
Civilians will migrate till they find a job. And if u dont give them jobs while having migration treaties they will move out of ur empire.
U could try using migration controls if u are fine with manually resettling all ur pops.
 
The buildings buffing civilians are the state academy/center of guidance that replace precinct house/hall of jugement.

I didn't do the math, but from what i have seen, civilians produce more science than scientists, but without access to special features (no +16 physics from doorway+astral+meteorologist), and higher upkeep that cannot be reduced.
 
yeah i think i just opened too many new colonies and my psychological infertility ruined my ability to compensate once the war in heaven broke out. i will start a new game without that trait.

i don't think my forced migration treaties in the federation are an issue because i have had that all game and didn't have an issue before i desperately built some habitats to make up my consumer goods deficit. i have utopian abundance and i know no AI actually uses it anymore (they stopped using it after some patch and they never fixed it, if i remember correctly), so i think that was enough to keep my pops.

but to confirm, a civilian science planet should not need a science district and science buildings at all? just urban with the state academy/center of guidance?
 
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