Comment Feedback and Supplementary Information for Chapter 45
Keeping Liege and Loon out of French hands is a good idea, but have you checked some of the other alliances around you to see if there's an other way to do this and maybe get something more?
Looking at the screenshot i think you're planning to kick out Lorraine and The Palatinate and take Liege, Loon and perhaps Munster from Berg for yourself?
But are there options where you can maybe also take Julich on the French border? Or Dortmund with the center of trade? Aachen maybe?
Dismantle Cologne together with Franconia?
There could be some interesting options hidden behind the co-belligerent box.
I don't know about your AE situation though, so could be what i'm suggesting will guarantee you a coalition.
Good advice, so I did have a good look before restarting (I've played through the next session already, but did this check first). In essence, it all looked a bit too hard due to the allies the possible co-belligerents could call in. And the fact the main reason for attacking Liege is to grab its Lowlands provinces (none of the others fall into that basket).

While I could call some allies in myself to balance some of these, in this case I was looking for a smaller, quicker and less manpower intensive war where I wouldn't have to share the main spoils with an ally, to get to that (largely RP now) objective of uniting the Low Countries under Frisian rule. Lorraine would bring Austria in, while among others, The Palatinate and Berg share alliances with Scandinavia with us, which I'd rather not have to either contend with or try the process of getting Scandinavia to abandon them (via the favours process). The gains just wouldn't be worth it, I suspect.
Another target I considered was Aachen, but they had quite a few allies including Cologne (who we're actually trying to bring on side at the moment) plus Austria. And again, they are part of North Germany rather than the Low Countries.

And other than in Flanders/Wallonia and northern France, the only other Low Country province in play is Luxembourg, south of Liege, but France controls that as well.

Thanks!Congratulations on your recent victories. Thank you for the update.
Wonderful. Time will come when you can do something more recreational!It was a relaxing one mostly, back to Turkiye to families. Among work, real life and healthcare; we can only find time to schedule and buy flights to hometowns and not able to arrange a holiday somewhere else.
It really was: lesson learned.Great result! And a very teaching moment about the importance of naval blockades
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I don't know about EU4 but in earlier Paradox titles the rate of accrual was tied to the difference between actual and maximum, so increasing the maximum also kind of increases the rate of accrual
Ok, well that's good then. Need that MP to grow - especially if big wars, such as against France, become a thing in the future.The maximum also increases the rate of gain, so still a good hire.
"De l'audace, encore de l'audace, et toujours de l'audace!"(Danton)I know nothing about the implications but I like the sound of this approach
First part of the mini-chapter:what are the relations between these 4?
OK, here they are in the broad (based on alliances and rivalries).


It's quite intertwined with friends and enemies all mixed in together and plenty of overlapping alliances with friends and enemies (of Friesland and each other).
Thank you! At least we got there for a while, even if it all collapses in a heap later in some great European/world conflagration (like the Seven Years War or Napoleonic Wars, for example).Congratulations on 4th in the world, briefly. You'll get back there and beyond I'm sure.
Not directly, not sure if I should be. I'm just vaguely relying on them balancing/fighting each other. More concerned with the regional powers closer to the FEI.Are you at all concerned with the growing power of Dai Viet or Shu?
ThanksGreat work in Borneo.
OK, it's two separate countries with similar colours: Cologne in the north and our long-standing ally Franconia in the south.Is that enormous land power next to you in Europe Wurzburg? The green guy to your southeast? Color seems like maybe Cologne but I see Wurzburg armies I think. I've never expected them to do so well. Cologne either, for that matter.


Indeed!The exact kind of treaty that's needed after a long and frustrating war.
If you don't know, I've got no hope of figuring it out!Castille declared a Nationalist war against someone not of their culture group? I don't know what's going on there.
Huzzah!
The two early (but unrealised) missions here are as follows, along with the overall map of the relevant areas within the Low Countries region:The mission should use the phrase "owned by Friesland or its non-tributary subjects" under the requirements. If it does, a vassalized Liege would count (you can click on the requirements as well to highlight the provinces in question).

And here are the words used in both the initial and second Lowlands missions. Good also to actually look at them more closely (which I haven't really done to this point). It bears on our immediate and longer term plans.

So I've done parts of this one but other than Loon (owned by Liege) the other missing parts are all French-owned - which makes things tricky.

And a similar story with the second phase. The wording just says 'owned by' in all cases. Also, the rewards offered for completion are pretty modest in this mid-late game period, I reckon, especially the second one: I currently have a surplus of unusable admin points (I'm far enough ahead I can't accumulate enough points to reach the next tech levels - over 1,300 needed, max 999 accrual, which is dealt with in the next chapter. Also, 250 ducats when we tend to have around 11-12k in the treasury is nothing much either.
But as an RP thing and to get those rich provinces in the Republic remain attractive RP or strategic objectives for me.
In brief, we are at 100% trust with Aragon and the next chapter will deal with options for forcing alliance breaking.It could be worth using your favors to increase your trust with Aragon and also break their alliances with Portugal and Castille.
Ditto. Though in the case of Scandinavia and France, it's not so much of an immediate issue for me. A question: when a country is allied to both parties, how does the game decide who they side with? A defender against an aggressor?Same advice here with Scandinavia. I noticed they are allied to France.
Yes, I checked and they have got the Espionage idea group and completed it. The diplomat will soon be employed more usefully.I've never seen it be 0. I assumed there was a minimum cap. Yes, a waste of time in this case. Does France have Espionage ideas?

Here are some autonomy maps. Pretty solid in Europe, varies in the owned colonies. There will be some more stating happening in the next chapter, so I guess that will affect some of them.Hmmm. It could be you had some temporary modifier from an event or something affecting your forcelimit. Or maybe your autonomy somehow grew in your provinces. How is your autonomy looking by the way?



That's the general idea (they're already nearby, but set back a little as they are drilling, so quite unprepared at the moment and I don't want them ambushed in a quick attack. See above for the situation explored by Steckie. But the general advice remains valid and thanks for it (and the AE for taking Loon and Liege is quite high).If you park your European armies on Liege's border, you should be able to overwhelm their army quickly with a stackwipe. This looks like an easy war for you to win and take much. I also agree with @Steckie . The co-belligerent checkbox could be your friend if you don't mind fighting a few more people. Taking land from non-cobelligerents costs more AE.
Any ways of grabbing it that doesn't cause the 20% loyalty malus on the Estates? Or is that the primary method.More Crownland is always good. It would give you more Absolutism and Reform Progress Growth if you get a larger share.
Many thanks!Congrats on expanding Frisian colonies!
You may well say that, but I couldn't possibly comment!Liege's days are numbered.
Maybe I suppose, though I've no experience in what the AI rulers tend to do in such situations. But it would be interesting and, per a response above, is kinda what I'm hoping happens in North and East Asia to keep them away from us in the south-east. It's bad enough having Portugal, Castile and France mucking around there!Over in Asia, is it possible that Shu and Dai Viet might go to war after Shu unifies China and Dai Viet expands a bit more in Southeast Asia? That could be interesting...
Thanks everyone for the readership and comments, next session played and I'm now in the process of editing the screenshots to do my story boards for the next episode. Have been working on other AARs too including, for those who read it or might be interested, a gameplay reboot of Talking Turkey (see signature below) involving a simple HOI3 game mod plus a more detailed save game edit to take things forward from October 1944 incorporating the post-war peace conference outcomes.
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