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Sikker said:
Well, I suggested a free conversion. I guess that's the only thing I can come up with right now.
The conversion would be useless because of the event driven reformation spread. It comes to Prussia fairly late.

A reduction of 16 BBs is perhaps a bit too much (man I'm hard to please :wacko: ). But it's better than 5 ... maybe 10-14 ... say 12?

Make it 10 and let's stick with that ;)

And obviously my stand on reducing the extra BB stands. At least half it. Preferably 3 goes to 1. 5 goes to 2. 7 goes to 3.

3 BB isn't that much... is it?

[QOUTE]
The revolter is fine :)[/QUOTE]

Good.. someone disagrees? Should I post it into the submission thread (the revolter change)?
 
Neuro said:
The conversion would be useless because of the event driven reformation spread. It comes to Prussia fairly late.
Dang! Well... I don't know then. It just seems odd to make expensive reforms that makes you even more backwards than you were ...

Neuro said:
Make it 10 and let's stick with that ;)

Ok then ...

Neuro said:
3 BB isn't that much... is it?
Well, I guess that's in the eye of the beholder ... but if reduce the 7 BB gain the 3BB gain should be reduced accordingly, right?
And since I am against the BB gain in the first place I have stretched reeeaaaaally far here ;)

Neuro said:
Good.. someone disagrees? Should I post it into the submission thread (the revolter change)?

We should wait 10 days according to the rules ... though I guess we could cut off a few days if noone objects, the next patch isn't around the corner (it seems) so there is no hurry.
 
Alright, so I can say we agreed upon the Teutonic Order's events. Therefore I post the adjusted events.

Chagnes:
The Fate of the Teutonic Order:
In choice B: made it a little more reasonable (also added quality and land changes)

The Lands of The Teutonic Order:
choice a: BB reduction of 5 (was 3)
choice b: BB increase of 2 ( was 3 )

Code:
################################
## Prussia and TO event chain
## by Neuromancer
################################
# Event range 209010-209012

# Teutonic Order restoration events (1419-1510)
event = {
	id = 209010
	name = "The Lands of Teutonic Order"
	desc = "The Teutonic Order's presence in the baltic region dates back to 1225 when Duke Conrad of Massovia asked the Teutonic knights to come and aid him against the Prussian pagans' raids. Having the backing of the Pope, the Holy Roman Emperor and the minor german states, the Teutonic Order rose up to become a major power in the southern baltic coast. Now their lands are ours. Shall we give them back to the order or keep them for ourselves?"
	random = no
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1510 }
	province = 290 # Prussia
	trigger = {
		NOT = {
			core = { province = 302 data = -1 }
			exists = PRU
			exists = LAT
			OR = {
				 owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
				 owned = { province = 290 data = LIV } # Prussia
			}
		}	
		OR = {
			religion = catholic
			religion = counterreform
			religion = protestant
			religion = reformed
		}	
	}
	style = 1
	action_a = {
		name = "Let's restore them"
		command = { type = independence which = LAT }
		command = { type = badboy value = -5 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 100 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 100 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = -50 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = LIT value = -50 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = STT value = 100 } #All other Catholics nations
		command = { type = relation which = POM value = -50 } 
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 289 } # Memel
		command = {type = VP value = 50 } 
	}

	action_b = {
		name = "We will keep Prussia!"
		command = { type = badboy value = 2 } 
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia 
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel		
	}
}

# Teutonic Order restoration events (1510-1523)
event = {
	id = 209011
	name = "The Lands of Teutonic Order"
	desc = "The Teutonic Order's presence in the baltic region dates back to 1225 when Duke Conrad of Massovia asked the Teutonic knights to come and aid him against the Prussian pagans' raids. Having the backing of the Pope, the Holy Roman Emperor and the minor german states, the Teutonic Order rose up to become a major power in the southern baltic coast. Now their lands are ours. Shall we give them back to the order or keep them for ourselves?"
	random = no
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1510 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1523 }
	province = 290 # Prussia
	trigger = {
		NOT = {
			core = { province = 290 data = -1 }
			exists = PRU
			exists = LAT
			OR = {
				 owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
				 owned = { province = 290 data = LIV } # Prussia
			}
		}	
		OR = {
			religion = catholic
			religion = counterreform
			religion = protestant
			religion = reformed
		}	
	}
	style = 1
	action_a = {
		name = "Let's restore them"
		command = { type = independence which = LAT }
		command = { type = badboy value = -5 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 100 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 100 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = -50 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = LIT value = -50 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = STT value = 100 } #All other Catholics nations.
		command = { type = relation which = POM value = -50 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 289 } # Memel
		command = {type = VP value = 50 } 
	}

	action_b = {
		name = "We will keep Prussia!"
		command = { type = badboy value = 2 } 
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		
	}
}

# The Fate of the Teutonic Order
# Previous version: Raudex-EEP

event = {
	id = 209012
	trigger = {		
		NOT = {	exists = PRU }
		exists = POL
	}
	random = no
	country = LAT
	name = "The Fate of the Teutonic Order"
	desc = "The last Grandmaster of the Teutonic Order, Albrecht von Brandenburg, decided to secularize the Order in 1525 and created Duchy of Prussia as a Polish vassal. The Brandenburg branch of Hohenzollerns became the rulers of the Duchy"
	style = 2

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1524 }

	action_a ={
		name = "Become the Duchy of Prussia"
		command = { type = independence which = MIN } # Masovia
		command = { type = independence which = LIV } # Livonian Order
		command = { type = religion which = protestant }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 301 } # Danzig
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 303 } # Poznan
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 300 } # Wielkopolska
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = POL value = 292 } # Podlasia
		# In 1.08 changing religion doesn't break vassalage
		command = { type = breakvassal  which = DAN }
		command = { type = breakvassal  which = SWE }
		command = { type = breakvassal  which = LIT }
		command = { type = breakvassal  which = MIN }
		command = { type = breakvassal  which = LIV }
		command = { type = breakvassal  which = BRA }
		command = { type = country which = PRU }
		command = { type = treasury value = 500 }
		command = { type = stability value = 6 }
	}
	action_b ={
		name = "Continue as the Order"
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -100 }
		command = { type = religion which = catholic }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 2 } 
		command = { type = domestic which = QUALITY value = 2 } # To balance things a bit

	}
}

Anyone disagrees with the changes? Something to add, remove?

If not, shall I post the modified Polish events regarding formation of Prussia?
After we discuss these, I'll post my Prussia inheritance events (XVIUI c. events).
 
They already do. "The Fate of Teutonic Order" event. Choice B.

Therefore I think all discussion redarding the Teutonic Order's events are settled now. I'll post the polish events in the evening (CET time :) )
 
First I would like to know if there is agreement on the Livonian Order events found in post 5
And now the Prussia events for Poland (they replace all the previous events)

Code:
## Lands of Teutonic Order
event = {
	id = 258230
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
		NOT = { exists = LAT }

	}
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "The Lands of Teutonic Order"
	desc = "The Teutonic Order was a always the main enemy of Poland. In 1410 at Tannenberg Wladislaw Jagiello won a tremendous victory over the knights but failed to drive them out of Prussia. However, now we have managed to accomplish that and Prussia is now in our hands. Unfortunatly, since the Teutons had the status of a christian order and were closely related to the Holy Roman Empire, both the Emperor and the Pope aren't happy. What shall we do?"
	style = 2
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1523 }
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Let's restore them."
		command = { type = independence  which = LAT }
		command = { type = relation which = LAT value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 } # unpopular in Poland
		command = { type = treasury value = 200 } 
		command = { type = badboy value = -5 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 289 }
	}		

	action_b = {
		name = "We will keep Prussia!"
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 4 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = treasury value = -200 } # diplomatical effort
		command = { type = trigger which = 381001 } # LIV381001: Poland owns Prussia
	}

}

# Treaty of Cracov#
event = {

	id = 258231			#Triggered by PRU209002 #
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "Treaty of Cracov"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3474"
	style = 2

	action_a ={			#Accept the New Vassal#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3474A"
		command = { type = dynastic which = PRU }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -150 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 100 }
		command = { type = setflag which = PrussiaVassalized }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 301 value = 2 } # Danzig becomes the main port
		command = { type = vassal which = PRU}
		command = { type = alliance which = PRU } # To prevent being DoWed by Lithuania or Masovia
	}

	action_b ={			#Claim Ownership#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3474B"
		command = { type = casusbelli which = PRU value = 240 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 132080 } # BRA132100: Poland claims Ducal Prussia
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -150 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -200 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -250 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 5 }
		command = { type = setflag which = PrussiaClaimed }
	}
}


# Lands of Prussia #
# Poland went with "Claim Ownership" and controls Prussia
event = {

	id = 258232
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
		NOT = { exists = PRU }
		flag = PrussiaClaimed

	}	
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "Lands of Prussia"
	desc = "Soon after king Zygmunt refused to sign the Treaty of Cracov and claimed ownership over the lands of Prussia a war broke out. After years of heavy fighting we finally managed to annex them. We can proclaim ourselves the rightfull owners of these lands, but surely both the Hohenzollerns in Brandenburg and the Emperor won't like it."
	style = 2

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1525 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1660 }

	action_a ={			
		name = "These are our lands!"
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = SWE value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -100 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 301 value = -2 } # Danzig less significant
		command = { type = provincetax which = 290 value = 2 } # Konigsberg becomes more important
		command = { type = addcore which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = addcore which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = treasury value = -250 }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 } 
		command = { type = badboy value = 7 }
	}

	action_b ={			
		name = "Restore the Duchy"
		command = { type = independence  which = PRU }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 } # unpopular in Poland
		
		command = { type = treasury value = 250 }
		command = { type = badboy value = -5 }
		command = { type = setflag which = PrussiaVassalized }
		command = { type = clrflag which = PrussiaClaimed }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRU value = 289 }
	}
}


# Protestants in Prussia #
# Poland annexed TO, Prussia never formed. Alt. history
event = {

	id = 258233
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
		NOT = { exists = PRU }
		NOT = { event = 263020 } # PRU263020: Hohenzollern Prussia become Polish Duchy 

	}	
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "Protestants in Prussia"
	desc = "It has been years since the Teutonic Order was finally drived out of the Baltic cost. However there wasn't much peace in Prussia. Many new rights have been granted to the polish minority and most of the previous bishops were replaced with Poles. Obviously both the prussian and german populations couldn't be happy about that. The situation became worse when the lutheran faith started spreading in Warmia and Prussia. People started converting to protestant to oppose the polish domination, under the strong lidership of Albrecht Hohenzollern - an ex-knight of the Livonian Order. "
	style = 2

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1524 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1540 }

	action_a ={
		name = "Grant autonomy"
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 290 value = protestant } # Prussia
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 289 value = protestant } # Memel
		command = { type = independence  which = PRU }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -150 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 } # unpopular in Poland
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }		
		command = { type = treasury value = 250 }
		command = { type = badboy value = -5 }
		command = { type = setflag which = PrussiaVassalized }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRU value = 289 }
	}

	action_b ={			
		name = "No way!"
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 290 value = protestant } # Prussia
		command = { type = provincereligion which = 289 value = protestant } # Memel
		command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -2 }  # Baltic-ooriented
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -2 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -100 }
		command = { type = stability value = -3 } 
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = treasury value = -100 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 5 }

	}
}

# The Fate of Prussia
# Poland at war
event = {
	id = 258234
	trigger = {
		atwar = yes
		flag = PrussiaVassalized
		exists = BRA

	}
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "The Fate of Prussia"
	desc = "In the Treaty of Cracov it was agreed that only the Prussian branch of the Hohenzollern family could inherit the Duchy. Due to the polish involvment in the Rusian civil war and the war with Sweden, on the 5th of may 1611 the Seym decided that the Electors of Brandenburg were allowed to inherit after the Prussian branch expires."
	style = 2
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1578 } # Albert Friedrich's illness
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1618 }	

	action_a ={			
		name = "Allow them to inherit"
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 350 } # the Brandenburg lobby ;)
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = SWE value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 100 }
		
	}

	action_b ={			#Claim Ownership#
		name = "Stick with the Treaty of Cracov"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = PrussiaInherited }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 132082 } # BRA132042: Death of Albert Friedrich
	}
}

# Death of Albert Friedrich
# Poland inherits version
event = {
	id = 258235
	trigger = {
		flag = PrussiaVassalized
		OR = {
			NOT = { event  = 258234 } # The Fate of Prussia
			flag = PrussiaInherited # from choice B in The Fate of Prussia
			NOT = { exists = BRA }
		}
	}
	
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "Death of Albert Friedrich"
	desc = "After years of illness the last Duke of Prussia from the Hohenzollern-Ansbach, Albert Friedrich, died. According to the Treaty of Cracov from 1525, after the Prussian branch of the Hohenzollern family, the lands of the Duchy of Prussia were to be incorporated into Poland."
	style = 2
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1618 } # Albert Friedrich dies
	
	action_a ={			
		name = "Finally!"
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = SWE value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -25 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 301 value = -2 } # Danzig less significant
		command = { type = provincetax which = 290 value = 2 } # Konigsberg becomes more important
		command = { type = addcore which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = addcore which = 290 } # Prussia
		
		command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -2 }  # Baltic-ooriented
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -1 }
		
		command = { type = inherit which = PRU }
		command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 } 
	}	
	action_b ={			
		name = "The Hohenzollern-Brandenburg branch inherits"
		command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = SWE value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 100 }		
		command = { type = treasury value = 350 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 132082 } # BRA132022: Death of Albert Friedrich
		command = { type = stability value = -2 } 
	}	
			
}

I will post the Brandenburgian events later on, after we discuss these.
Any suggestions?
 
Neuro said:
Code:
## Lands of Teutonic Order
event = {
	id = 258230
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
		NOT = { exists = LAT }

	}
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "The Lands of Teutonic Order"
	desc = ......
	style = 2
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1523 }
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Let's restore them."
		command = { type = independence  which = LAT }
		command = { type = relation which = LAT value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 } # unpopular in Poland
		command = { type = treasury value = 200 } 
		command = { type = badboy value = -5 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 289 }
	}		

	action_b = {
		name = "We will keep Prussia!"
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -50 }
		[COLOR=DarkOrange]command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = badboy value = 4 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = treasury value = -200 } # diplomatical effort
		command = { type = trigger which = 381001 } #



Am I reading this wrong or should one of these be PAP?
 
Oh yes, I forgot about the BB changes. AFAIR we agreed upon -10 reduction?

Code:
## Lands of Teutonic Order
event = {
	id = 258230
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
		NOT = { exists = LAT }

	}
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "The Lands of Teutonic Order"
	desc = "The Teutonic Order was a always the main enemy of Poland. In 1410 at Tannenberg Wladislaw Jagiello won a tremendous victory over the knights but failed to drive them out of Prussia. However, now we have managed to accomplish that and Prussia is now in our hands. Unfortunatly, since the Teutons had the status of a christian order and were closely related to the Holy Roman Empire, both the Emperor and the Pope aren't happy. What shall we do?"
	style = 2
	
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1523 }
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Let's restore them."
		command = { type = independence  which = LAT }
		command = { type = relation which = LAT value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 } # unpopular in Poland
		command = { type = treasury value = 200 } 
		command = { type = badboy value = -10 } # was -5
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = LAT value = 289 }
	}		

	action_b = {
		name = "We will keep Prussia!"
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -100 }
		command = { type = badboy value = 1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = revolt which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = treasury value = -200 } # diplomatical effort
		command = { type = trigger which = 381001 } # LIV381001: Poland owns Prussia
	}
}

# Lands of Prussia #
# Poland went with "Claim Ownership" and controls Prussia
event = {

	id = 258232
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
		NOT = { exists = PRU }
		flag = PrussiaClaimed

	}	
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "Lands of Prussia"
	desc = "Soon after king Zygmunt refused to sign the Treaty of Cracov and claimed ownership over the lands of Prussia a war broke out. After years of heavy fighting we finally managed to annex them. We can proclaim ourselves the rightfull owners of these lands, but surely both the Hohenzollerns in Brandenburg and the Emperor won't like it."
	style = 2

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1525 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1660 }

	action_a ={			
		name = "These are our lands!"
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = SWE value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -100 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 301 value = -2 } # Danzig less significant
		command = { type = provincetax which = 290 value = 2 } # Konigsberg becomes more important
		command = { type = addcore which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = addcore which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = treasury value = -250 }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 } 
		command = { type = badboy value = 2 } # was 7
	}

	action_b ={			
		name = "Restore the Duchy"
		command = { type = independence  which = PRU }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 } # unpopular in Poland
		
		command = { type = treasury value = 250 }
		command = { type = badboy value = -10 } # was -5
		command = { type = setflag which = PrussiaVassalized }
		command = { type = clrflag which = PrussiaClaimed }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRU value = 289 }
	}
}

The rest of events are still the same.

How do you like the "Protestats in Prussia" event? Tweak it somehow or keep it like this? What do you think abotu the storyline? ;)

Also the Prussia succession events. What do you think of them?
 
Neuro said:
The Teutonic Order was a always the main enemy of Poland. In 1410 at Tannenberg Wladislaw Jagiello won a tremendous victory over the knights but failed to drive them out of Prussia. However, now we have managed to accomplish that and Prussia is now in our hands. Unfortunatly, since the Teutons had the status of a christian order and were closely related to the Holy Roman Empire, both the Emperor and the Pope aren't happy. What shall we do?

Replace with:
The Teutonic Order was always the main enemy of Poland. In 1410 at Tannenberg, Wladislaw Jagiello won a tremendous victory over the Order but failed to drive them out of Prussia. However, we have now managed to accomplish that and Prussia is in our hands. Unfortunately, the Teutons are a Crusader Order and are closely related to the Holy Roman Empire and the Roman Catholic Church. Because of this, both the Emperor and the Pope are watching us closely. What shall we do?

Neuro said:
Soon after king Zygmunt refused to sign the Treaty of Cracov and claimed ownership over the lands of Prussia a war broke out. After years of heavy fighting we finally managed to annex them. We can proclaim ourselves the rightfull owners of these lands, but surely both the Hohenzollerns in Brandenburg and the Emperor won't like it.

Replace with:
Soon after King Zygmunt refused to sign the Treaty of Cracov, claiming ownership over the Duchy of Prussia, a war broke out. After years of heavy fighting, we have finally managed to secure our claim. We can now proclaim ourselves the rightful owners of these lands, but this will greatly upset the Hohenzollerns in Brandenburg, and the Emperor will also be displeased.

I think that tidies up what you're saying a bit.
 
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Sikker said:
Well as far as I can see there are still a bit of BB that needs correction. But I like the events. Many nice details.

Could you be more specific? Please give the event name, choce name and the proposed value.

I'll post the Brandenburg's events during the weak (mayby tomorrow).
 
Neuro said:
Could you be more specific? Please give the event name, choce name and the proposed value.

I'll post the Brandenburg's events during the weak (mayby tomorrow).

Well, 258233 is one ... but I must admit it's the only one I can find ... perhaps it's the only one
 
Sikker said:
Well, 258233 is one ... but I must admit it's the only one I can find ... perhaps it's the only one

Here is a tweaked version of that event. Do these values suit you?

Code:
# Lands of Prussia #
# Poland went with "Claim Ownership" and controls Prussia
event = {

	id = 258232
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 290 data = POL } # Prussia
		NOT = { exists = PRU }
		flag = PrussiaClaimed

	}	
	random = no
	country = POL
	name = "Lands of Prussia"
	desc = "Soon after King Zygmunt refused to sign the Treaty of Cracov, claiming ownership over the Duchy of Prussia, a war broke out. After years of heavy fighting, we have finally managed to secure our claim. We can now proclaim ourselves the rightful owners of these lands, but this will greatly upset the Hohenzollerns in Brandenburg, and the Emperor will also be displeased."
	style = 2

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1525 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1660 }

	action_a ={			
		name = "These are our lands!"
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = SWE value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = DAN value = -100 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 301 value = -2 } # Danzig less significant
		command = { type = provincetax which = 290 value = 2 } # Konigsberg becomes more important
		command = { type = addcore which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = addcore which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = treasury value = -250 }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 } 
		command = { type = badboy value = 2 } # was 7
	}

	action_b ={			
		name = "Restore the Duchy"
		command = { type = independence  which = PRU }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = BRA value = 200 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 } # unpopular in Poland
		
		command = { type = treasury value = 250 }
		command = { type = badboy value = -10 } # was -5
		command = { type = setflag which = PrussiaVassalized }
		command = { type = clrflag which = PrussiaClaimed }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = PRU value = 289 }
	}
}

And finally (due to a free day form school ;) ), I post the Brandenburg events. For some reasons they don't work until you place them before the commented out events (the Beyruth? ones).

Code:
################################
## Prussia and TO event chain
## by Neuromancer
################################
# Ids used: 132070-132070

# Poland claims Ducal Prussia
event = {

	id = 132080			#Triggered by POL258231B #
	random = no
	country = BRA
	name = "Poland claims Hohenzollern Prussia"
	desc = "In 1525 during the religious turmoil of the Reformation one of the early converters to the new religion was the Teutonic Orders' Grandmaster from Brandenburg, Albrecht of Hohenzollern. Inspired by Luther he also decides to secularize the land areas under his control, Prussia, into a protestant duchy. However, knowing that this would earn him the eternal enmity of his former Order he had to go for help with its greatest enemy, Poland-Lithuania. However Poland-Lithuania decided to claim his lands instead. Shall we help our family member?"
	style = 2

	action_a ={		
		name = "Help Albert!"
		command = { type = vassal which = PRU }
		command = { type = alliance which = PRU }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = 300 }
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = -200 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 250 }  # Help from other german states
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = setflag which = ClaimOnPrussia }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = POL value = 240 }
	}

	action_b ={			
		name = "We can't help them now"
		command = { type = casusbelli which = POL value = 240 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = 100 }

	}
}

# Fall of the Duchy of Prussia
# Fires when there is no Prussia, either if it was taken by Poland or not
event = {

	id = 132081
	trigger = {
		NOT = { exists = PRU }
		event = 263020 # PRU263020: Hohenzollern Prussia become Polish Duchy

	}	
	random = no
	country = BRA
	name = "The fall of Duchy of Prussia"
	desc = "After the secularization of the Teutonic Order's lands, Albert Hohenzollern became the Duke of Prussia. However the Duchy was weak and it's existance depended on the Polish and Brandenburgian help."
	style = 2

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1524 }
	offset = 60
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1620 }

	action_a ={		
		name = "Grab the title"
		command = { type = addcore which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = addcore which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = -200 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -100 }  # Help from other german states
		command = { type = setflag which = ClaimOnPrussia }
	}

}


# Death of Albert Friedrich
# Poland inherits version
event = {
	id = 132082
	trigger = {
		event = 263020 # PRU263020: Hohenzollern Prussia become Polish Duchy
	}
	
	random = no
	country = BRA
	name = "Death of Albert Friedrich"
	desc = "After years of illness the last Duke of Prussia from the Hohenzollern-Ansbach, Albert Friedrich, died. According to the Treaty of Cracov from 1525, after the Prussian branch of the Hohenzollern family, the lands of the Duchy of Prussia were to be incorporated into Poland. However this was changed with the decision of the Polish Seym on the 5th of may 1611. The Hohenzollern-Brandenburg branch was therefore allowed to inherit the Duchy."
	style = 2
	
	date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1618 } # Albert Friedrich dies
	
	action_a ={			
		name = "Finally!"
		command = { type = inherit which = PRU }
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -50 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 289 } # Memel
		command = { type = addcore which = 290 } # Prussia
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 290 value = german }
		command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = setflag which = ClaimOnPrussia }
	}	
		
}

I commented out the "Incorporation of Prussia to Brandenburg" event (id = 3636) I also modified the Brandenburg>KoP event. I didn't change anything except for the trigger conditions:

Code:
#The Kingdom of Prussia#
#changed by Neuro

event = {
	id = 3524
	trigger = {
		OR = { 
			owned = { province = 290 data = -1 }
			flag = ClaimOnPrussia
		}
		}
	random = no
	country = BRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3524"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3524"
	style = 4

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1701 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1760 }

	action_a ={				#The Kingdom of Prussia is born!#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3524A"
		command = { type = treasury value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -40 }
		command = { type = diplomats value = 3 }
		command = { type = country which = PRU }
	}

	action_b ={				#Stay Elector-Prince!#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3524B"
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 40 }
	}
}

Notice the ClaimOnPrussia trigger in OR={}. This way Brandenburg can become prussia even when they don't controll the province.

What do you think?

If there are no voices against these events I'll do a sum-up post at the weekend and after the needed period I'll post it in the submission thread.
 
Neuro said:
And finally (due to a free day form school ;) ), I post the Brandenburg events. For some reasons they don't work until you place them before the commented out events (the Beyruth? ones).

that almost certainly means there's a line the comments missed with a curly brace to break the parsing engine.
 
Summoner said:
that almost certainly means there's a line the comments missed with a curly brace to break the parsing engine.
Maybe that's the problem. There game engine doesn't give any errors. It's just the events don't work when you put them at the end of the file. But if you put them before the commented-out Beyruth events, they begin to work perfectly.
 
Neuro said:
Maybe that's the problem. There game engine doesn't give any errors. It's just the events don't work when you put them at the end of the file. But if you put them before the commented-out Beyruth events, they begin to work perfectly.

a debug option that'd give parse errors for event files as well as the scenario ones would be nice but...