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This thread is for AAR's and diplomacy in Duelling Danes.

We are a group of danish players, who are all new to the forum. We have just begun our own multiplayer game, and after the first session we decided to write our AAR here, at the forum.
We are players of various skill and experience, but all enjoy this great game.
The AAR's will be written between session.

Rules:
We play EU2 1.09, game start in 1419.
If at -80 % warscore and -3 stab, any stabhitting offer must be accepted.
The goal of the game is conquest. After every 50 years, the player who in this time period has conquered most cities from other players(net sum), gains two points and nr 2 one point. The player who have lost the most cities to other players loose two points, and second to last one point.
That means we play 8 heats of 50 years (though the actual session length may vary, we do the score every 50 years).


The Nations we play are, and the current points are as follows:

Austria - Hakke:
-1​
Burgundy - HUP:
2​
Castille - Djarle:
2​
England - Boltthrower:
-3​
Poland - Hylde:
-1​
Ottoman Empire - Kveller:
0​

Because of variant player skills, as well as gameplay, we have made the following edits:
England keeps french culture throughout the game
Burgundy may turn into Netherlands
 
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AAR Burgundy 1419-1494

In 1419 Burgundy was a rich country. Most of the rich Dutch cities were under our most gracious duke's control. Furthermore three rich french provinces swore him fealty.

Diplomatically things was also looking good. Friendly relations had been created with most european nations, and an alliance was already formed with the most powerfull kingdom in Europe, England. The only thing disturbing the peace, was the ongoing war against the rebellious french, who couldn't accept the true king of France, Henry of England.

Also a new minister has risen in the burgundian government, Chancellor HUP.
The first thing was to bring the war against France to a succesfull end. To do this HUP got an agreement of military access out of Luxemburg, making it possible to unite the armies of Flanders and Bourgogne in Champagne, along with 7000 newly recruited cavalry. After sieging Champagne, and making sure that our British allies had crushed the main army of France, Lyonnais, Picardie and Nivernaise was sieged. A pleasant surprise then came, when England accepted a peace giving us all four provinces, England taking only three :D

After this war, our glorious nation was forced into numerous wars against german and dutch minors, expanding our borders, and vassalizing vast areas of land. A special thanks to England, who gave us valued help against our enemies. After this, a decade of peace and prosperity followed, where we sponsored both Poland and OE with large undisclosed amounts of cash.
After some time we discovered that England had conquered all of France proper, with the exception of Isle de France, which we promptly annexed.

This brought up protests from Austria, who was also threatening the wise ruler of Poland and demanding his withdrawal from certain north german provinces, and claiming lands held by our vassals. An inquiry to the king of England, proved that England would not look kindly upon a preemptive strike against the belligerent nation of Austria. After some diplomatic work, it came to my notice, that if I asked for England to honor its alliance with Burgundy, England would dishonor, and imidiately declare war upon its former ally - does the english king have no honor?

Even more depressing news hit me, as both OE and Poland declined an invitation for an attack to stop the expansion of the Austrian wolf, and Castille had apparently made an alliance with Austria for the partitioning of Italy; but, as my disloyal ally England had accidently revealed, alliances are made to be broken, and I succeded in making an unofficial alliance with Castille, for the ruin of Austria.

As the host of Burgundy attacked over the Rhine, and into Austrian heartland, a message came from Castille, telling me that they apparently had some problems with the nobles, and therefore could not fullfill promises made to enter the war :mad: On the bright side, England apparently lacked the preparations for war, for besides leaving my alliance, no moves were made:D
The war quickly turned my way, as my superior cavalry armies crushed every austrian army fielded. Sieges were made, and negotiations begun. After one year of war, more than half of the austrian realm was in our control, and the stabhitting began. Also Castille had attacked England, who were now busy defending itself, and after this last hope of relief was quenched, Austria capitulated, accepting our most reasonable demands of Baden and Wurttemberg - only one day later, England declared that it was ready to send a relief force of 100k cavalry to help Austria, who says timing is not of the essence:D

Having dealt with our business with Austria, forces was sent to help our defeated enemies cope with several rebbelions. Just as I was beginning to get restless,a messenger arrived from Castille, begging the mighty chancellors help. Looking at his map of Europe, the chancellor saw that a great many of Castille's fortresses were flying the english flag, and remembering earlier betrayals, the chancellor boldly jumped to the rescue.
150k of cavalry swarmed over the english possessions in France, and given the offensive doctrines of the burgundians, the English losses were vast. After the bloody battle of Orleans, 70k english troops lay dead, and after another english force consisting of 60k was hunted to death, and with the english leaders stuck in the iberian peninsula, and all of France besieged, England accepted peace, for Caux and Calais, and a promise of giving back all conquered territory to Castille.

Some ministers in the Burgundian government had argued for more harsh peace treaties after the victories over the nations of Austria and England. The chancellor, however, was not interested in creating an unforgiving Austria and England, being pinned between those mighty empires, and hope that all further disagreements can be handled diplomatically.

Also Burgundy have created a great navy of more than 150 ships, only surpassed by the English navy, and four refineries where build.

Map of Burgundy 1494, with thanks to BurningEgo:
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Map of Europe 1494:
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Is it only me, or i cannot see the map? :wacko:
 
I have no idea what Aladar wrote to you, but there is this little site to upload images for free:

http://imageshack.us/

All you have to do, is to have the image in some kind of format, upload it, copy and paste the URL that you receive afterwards, to your post and bingo. ;)
 
Just some danish stuff EGO :)

HUP you need to delete some messages, your inbox is full.

Wow.....once you get used to the new map, the old one just looks silly :rofl:
 
I don't think there is a limit of 5 messages, you probably also have a lot of sent messages saved. If not it's probably due to your low postcount, once you hit 50 it'll probably be raised to 30 or something.
 
Wowie, England looks awesomely big... Fraland can be pretty unstoppable. :eek:
 
The Spanish Empire

After a fears and violent beginning with land expansion the Empire began preparing for the exploitation and conquering of the world.

The prepping has met some difficulties in a constant fight with stability drops. The dividing of Italy with Austria was a great help in securing a steady income so that the Empire can pay the cost of conquering the gold of America. As well as the Italy spilt was good for the empire so was the vassaliation of Portugal.

On the down side the little fight with England didn’t turn out very well but at least the Brits know that it only was for the training of the empires forces so the Empire doesn’t see any problems in regards to a peaceful co-existence with mighty England.

The Empire is looking forward for the annexation of Aragon. :rolleyes:
 
AAR Ottoman Empire 1419-1494

After being ruled by an unknown councillor named AI for the first 30 years o the game, the ottoman Empire gained the immortal and glorious ruler Kveller I, the conqueror...
The foolish AI had begun wars against an alliance of balkan nations, and even worse, it was loosing. After many years of war, the tide turned. Albania was annexed, and Venice forced to peace for everything except Corfu... This do to the fact that the wise Kveller did not wish for Austria to gain the opportunity of annexing the rich center of trade in Venice.
After this Kveller turned his attention to Asia Minor, where all nations were either vassalized or annexed. Having just reached land tech 9 as the first known nation, many interesting opportunities has shown themselves. The only question remains. Has the time come to unite all muslim nations under one banner, or shoul the Empire instead consolidate its power in the south east of Europe?
 
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kveller said:
After being ruled by an unknown councillor named AI for the first 30 years o the game, the ottoman Empire gained the immortal and glorious ruler Kveller I, the conqueror...
The foolish AI had begun wars against an alliance of balkan nations, and even worse, it was loosing. After many years of war, the tide turned. Albania was annexed, and Venice forced to peace for everything except Corfu... This do to the fact that the wise Kveller did not wish for Austria to gain the opportunity of annexing the rich center of trade in Venice.
After this Kveller turned his attention to Asia Minor, where all nations were either vassalized or annexed. Having just reached land tech 9 as the first known nation, many interesting opportunities has shown themselves. The only question remains. Has the time come to unite all muslim nations under one banner, or shoul the Empire instead consolidate its power in the south east of Europe?
Go east!!! eat Africa FFS ^^
 
I am playing Poland and I would like some good idees, how do I crush Burgundy?

Burgundy will be leaderless for centuries to come. I would wait till Stefan Batory and utterly crush them in a couple of bloody wars. Then deal the decivisive blow once Jan Sobieski apears later on. And the fact that you do not have a sweden/denmark/prussia/russia in that game, makes things really go easy for you. Try to DA lithuania asap. Do not wait for the event to fire, or you will get orthodox tech group, sadly. If you want to go protestant, which perhaps would be the best, expanding into Sweden should be pretty good. You just need time: your realm will outclass Burgundy in the long term.

Can someone post a new screenie please? :(
 
AAR Burgundy 1494-1558 - The times of Betrayal

Chanchellor HUP was walking around in the dark halls of his keep, pondering on how to assure Burgundy a place in the sun.
The last years had brought a threatening increase in diplomats passing trough Burgundys lands, back and forth between Austria and England. Also the Ottoman Empires sultan had been couped, and a man by the name of AI had taken the throne.. His reign would last 20 years.
The only thing comforting the chancellor was the alliance made with Poland, though it had to be paid for in gold, and also propositions from Spain of a partitioning of Franland was sounding promising...
In the end, HUP's cause of action was decided by plain greed. Had England not been overrun last time war had come, and should Poland not be able to crush the puny Austrians? Also, a war was necessary to keep the Poles in alliance, since they were greedy for conquest and plunder. So, 1. August 1561 a great army of Burgundians invaded England, 60k attacking from Scotland, and 180k from France. At the same time Poland invaded Austria, but decided to stop and conquer Bohemia before going on to Austria proper, a delay wich proved deadly... For the time being though, England was pushed back, and Austria had but taken two border towns... Then things began to change. Von frundsberg attacked into Poland with a giant army, defeating the even larger polish armies, and all Burgundian attempts of relief was quenched! At least HUP could calm himslef with the oncoming total victory over England, but then two disasters struck simoltaniously... The burgundian fleet was destroyed by the brittish, and Spain betrayed all promises by entering the war on Englands side, arguing that it would be "fun" - indeed.. :(
After this Poland asked our permission to accept austrias offer of white peace, which were granted.
After another year of desperate war, Burgundy were able to forcepeace england for 5 french territories, and force Spain to a white peace... After this the war turned into a stalemate. Austria having taken few Burgundian provinces, but with a undefeatable Frundsberg :mad: At least a white peace seemed within reason, when suddenly the western powers broke all deseancy, and both spain and England broke holy truce, and fell into our unprotected back. Given these changes of fortune, Burgundy sued for peace. The terms however, was prepostious, should Burgundy give 10 provinces to this alliance of oathbreakers :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: After only two more months of warfare, peace was finally made. Burgundy had to give up all territory on the east side of the river Rhine (three provinces) to Austria, Maine and Normandy back to England, and England should in return for Spains help grant them four provinces in southern France... - it also bears to tell that England earlier had seperatepeaced Scotland, giving them all earlier conquered territories :rofl:
After this HUP made a total change of policies, accepting that Austria was the new military power in Europe. In secret the funding of Poland and Ottoman Empire began, but in puplic Burgundy became Austrias friend. Giving up all claims to the conquered territories, and some other disputed territory in Italy, namely Genua, Piemonte and Corsica.. This gave HUP the freedom it so sorely needed, and after Spain had declined to sell its frenchcultured provinces for 2000 gold, war was declared; together with Austria. Spain was quickly subdued, giving Austria three provinces in Italy, and Burgundy the five provinces Spain had with French culture :p In all this Poland and OE was paid for their neutrality, and England was ignored (isolated and afraid :cool: ).
After that Burgundy made some somewhat unworthy diplomacy. First Austria was promised help against any third power in an oncoming war against Poland, in exchange Burgundy was given free hands against England. Then Poland and OE was appeased, by the usual amounts of money and some halfpromises of help if attacked, and finally Spain, Englands newly found ally, was bought off for 2000 gold. After this total isolation of England was reached, Burgundy attacked England, and in lightning strike subdued all mainland provinces, and also Ireland... England was forcepeaced for the remaining five frenchultured provinces, keeping only Brittany on the mainland. In exchange England was given free hands with my worthy ally Scotland.
After this, not much happened for Burgundy. Other powers fought, Burgundy sent help to Austria, saving them from being trampled by OE an Poland. Applying some diplomatic pressure, Burgundy also negotiatet the transfer of two provinces from Poland to Austria. A lot of trade was done, being the first power to get trade 4 and infra 5... Making Burgundy the richest contry in the world. Also most of France was converted to the catholic faith... In the end of HUPs reign roads to India was given to us by OE, and Burgundy now controls five provinces there. Two colonies, two cities, and one CoT :D
Also Burgundy can brag of eight new refineries, and having all the great leaders of Europe, except England and Austria on its payroll :cool:
 
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A few screenshots from our campaign

The situation in Europe, after five bloody wars. Austria is again a major power, and England is severely reduced in size ;) :


The beginnings of a colonial empire, notice the nice CoT in Ganges under my control :cool: all hail the Burgundian Empire:


And two colonial empires, though I can only see some of the coastline in regards to the English one:
 
HUP, in that colonial map, to show us who owns what in all provinces, press F12 in game, and write "columbus" (must be in single player!). This will allow you to see all provinces, and then, only then, take a screenshot to show us the current situation.

Anyway, that austria is pretty huge. I would watch myself if i were you. Poland seems to be pretty messed too.
 
BurningEGO said:
HUP, in that colonial map, to show us who owns what in all provinces, press F12 in game, and write "columbus" (must be in single player!). This will allow you to see all provinces, and then, only then, take a screenshot to show us the current situation

Anyway, that austria is pretty huge. I would watch myself if i were you. Poland seems to be pretty messed too.

Alas, in our game it would be equal to cheating to open the game as any other player as oneself, and Boltthrower and Djarle has especially specified that they do not wish us to open the file to know the extend of the empires they posses, therefore I can only use my own maps.... or those stolen/traded for in-game;)