E3 Mod & E3 Map thread

[unmerged(93739)]

To clarify on the GER-GRE-alliance-subject...
Yes, what I meant was that Germany and Greece had close relations (which also happens in-game) and hadn't it been for the agreement between Italy and Germany an alliance would prob have materialised. Much as with the rest of the Balkans.

So if Italy doesn't join the Axis it's most probable that Germany would have supported Greece and forced the Italians to back down from their demands. I'll see if that can be reflected in the events for the invasion of Greece.

And I don't wanna offend anyone but the "Germany would have conquered Russia if not for the Balkan campaign"-scenario is PARTLY based on Allied propaganda. Obviously the post-war governments in YUG and GRE wanted to enhance their achievements and the British also had to justify why they wasted quite a bit of manpower from the Africa campaign when trying to help Greece. I don't think those facts dimininsh the efforts of the Greeks against the Italians or the Yugoslavian partisans resistance to the Germans!

GermanWehrmacht: There's a thread on "Greece in HoI2" in the Enhancement Suggestions forum, but it doesn't seem very active at the moment. If you wanna you could compile the stuff in there and either mod the Greece-files yourself or make it available to someone here who can do the modding. Otherwise just check with Vladimir what's up for grabs

 

[GermanWehrmacht]

And I don't wanna offend anyone but the "Germany would have conquered Russia if not for the Balkan campaign"-scenario is PARTLY based on Allied propaganda. Obviously the post-war governments in YUG and GRE wanted to enhance their achievements and the British also had to justify why they wasted quite a bit of manpower from the Africa campaign when trying to help Greece. I don't think those facts dimininsh the efforts of the Greeks against the Italians or the Yugoslavian partisans resistance to the Germans!

Thats where im going to disagree with you on (got to love how history can do this) As the Balkan invasion by Germany may have led to its serious downfall, however Germany still wouldnt of succeeded. They would of gone further than they did but they wouldnt of been able to defeat the Russians as huge as there country is and how much resistance the Russians would of pulled against the Germans, Germany was done for either way. They could of taking Moscow than in the Russians mind, "Oh no they took Moscow oh well that wont stop us from fighting" In the long Russian history they were always strong fighters and never gave up even if the enemy was a better technologically advanced. A lot of the times in Russian wars its usually Russia taking the beating in the beginning but would later some how make a comeback to defeat its enemy or wear them down, it wouldnt of been any different in WWII.

 

[unmerged(93739)]

I can't really see where we're disagreeing

I was trying to point out that one should be careful with these propaganda items that hasn't been verified or proven by most historians. One such is to put too much importance (it certainly had some impact!) on the German campaign in the Balkans and the consequences it had for Operation Barbarossa.

I never said that Germany would have (or would not have) been able to conquer the Soviet Union. That's another issue that many historians still debate and I haven't done enough research myself to state any outcome of Barbarossa a fact (except the obvious historical one )

 

[GermanWehrmacht]

lol just trying to make my point about the Balkans and Germany and Barbarossa lol.

 

[unmerged(81141)]

I have found many opened topics here so I will need to answer you all.

Yes you are right ..
I just upload it let's work only with the other.

Please respond me the follow , what else exactly you want from me?
1)Any help with alphabet etc? 2)the soundtrax the one is OK or you want more,3) do you want a new propaganda picture, 4)ANYthink else. Tell me all about you want to give you. Because I just giving you info generaly, I feel as troubling you.

You do not trouble me. Your search effort are commendable. For your help about Greece, try to find next things:
- model images;
- forgotten ministers;
- techteams (Scientists, officers, compaines that existed in that time.);
- leaders;
- better propaganda posters;
- event ideas;
- music (Greek military marches, ethno songs, dances, art compositions - but performed on acustical instruments).

Well Greece has always been my interest since the Byzantine Empire. Whos in charge of the Greek department?

For now only Isiodos. But you may join him and help him. Just try to find things listed above.

And for your ideas about GER-GRE alliance. You could write the events for that, if you know something about that.

Vladimir is our ÜberBalkanModFührer and prob the only one that keeps track of everything in this thread. Maybe he can post an overview of what's going on.

I will post the information you desire in the next post. And please, do not call me Führer. We should not risk to be banned. And besides, I am more left-winged. So you may call me comrade, if you wish.

 

[Sgt. Optimus]

And besides, I am more left-winged. So you may call me comrade, if you wish.

We can call you General Secretary of the Paradox Communist Party!

As for the tracks, I recomend Marš na Drinu(SFRY?), Marširala Kralja Petra garda (Kingdom Yugoslavia) etc.

 

[unmerged(81141)]

Here is the work that has been done by now:
- collected all new models images for YUG - thank to LORD NIL;
- made about 40 techteams for YUG - my work;
- found new posters for SLV, HUN and YUG - thanks to Daemoncool and Sgt. Optimus;
- reworked flags for countries in EU3 style;
- foind new model imagse for ROM, POL, CZE, HUN, BUL, ALB, GRE, TUR - thanks to LORD NIL, Athi, Miikhali;
- reworked AI for YUG -thanks to LORD NIL;
- made many images for new events - thanks to Fernando Torres and Hannibal Barca2;
- some province corrections - my work and LORD NILS's;
- found some music for GRE, HUN and YUG - thank to Isiodos, Daemoncool, and my music for YUG;
- some changes for various yugoslavia.inc scenario files - thanks to Fernando Torres, LORD NIL, and my work;
- written the following events - mostly my work and I will note the other writters:
1. Germany proposes alliance to Yugoslavia (25. III 1941.) - GER;
2. Yugoslavia joins the Axis (25. III 1941.) - YUG;
3. Yugoslavia refuses alliance (25. III 1941.) - GER;
4. Coup d'état in Yugoslavia (27. III 1941.) - YUG;
5. Attack on Yugoslavia (6. IV 1941.) - GER;
6. Bombardment of Belgrade (6. IV 1941.) - YUG;
7. Transfer of Northern Greece to YUG ( three events for GER, ITA and BUL);
8. Appearance of the Chetniks (11. V 1941.) - GER;
9. Appearance of the Partisans (7. VII 1941.) - GER;
10. Uprising in ISC ( 6. V 1941.) - CRO;
11. Rebellion in Montenegro (12. VII 1941.) - ITA;
12. Formation of the Republic Uzice (10. XI 1941.) - GER;
13. Free territory Uzice (10. XI 1941.) - YUG;
14. USSR helps Tito (two events for SOV and YUG, triggered by previous);
15. Pact of friendship between Kingdom of Yugoslavia and USSR (5. IV 1941.) - YUG;
16. War in Yugoslavia (depending on SOV invasion on Balkans) - GER;
17. War in Yugoslavia (triggered by previous) - YUG;
18. Albanian revolt on Kosovo (triggered by previous) - YUG;
19. Albanian revolt on Kosovo (triggered by previous) - ALB;
20. Albanian revolt quelled - YUG;
21. Liberation of Belgrade - YUG;
22. Return of Macedonia to YUG - BUL;
23. Sirmian front - CRO;
24. Sirmian front - YUG;
25. Return of Backa i Baranja to YUG - SOV;
26. Leaving Yugoslavia - GER;
27. Leaving Yugoslavia - ITA;
28. Liberation of Albania (three events, YUG-ALB-YUG);
29. Liberation of Greece (three events, YUG-GRE-YUG);
30. Help in Greek Civil War - YUG;
31. Greek civil war - Partisan coup d'état - GRE;
32. Greek civil war - Partisan coup d'état - YUG;
33. Restauration of Yugoslavia - YUG;
34. Geological researches in Vojvodina (discovery of oil) - YUG;
35. Expanding JNA (Yugoslav People's Army) - YUG;
36. Soviet embargo (1948) - SOV;
37. Soviet embargo (1948) - YUG;
38. Friendship with Italy (1954) - YUG;
39. Friendship with Turkey (1953) - YUG;
40. Friendship with West Germany (1951) - YUG;
41. Informal protection by NATO alliance (1953) - YUG;
42. Expansion of Yugoslav borders (seven events regarding unification of YUG, BUL and ALB);
43. Negotiations with Greece (four events regarding unification of YUG and GRE, if GRE is socialist);
44. Union of the Non-Aligned Countries ( writen only for YUG, EGY, IND and CHC; should be written for all other non NATO or Warsaw countries);
45. Turkish Assistance to Yugoslavia (two events written by Uzickibombarder);
46. Desintegration of albanian army (written by LORD NIL);
47. Lend-Lease shipment to Yugoslavia (written by LORD NIL);
48. events written by 1Jack..

I am going to implement during next few weeks following mods to UBM:
- Polish Techteams Mod;
- Swedish Techteams Mod;
- some features from SMEP mod;
- Swedish leaders improvement mod;
- Romania Improvment Pack mod and following features;
- new unit sprites mod;
- Japaneese Graphic Pack mod - and following features;
- Hungarian Improvment Projects;
- CZE Improvement Pack;
- German leaders Improvement Pack;
- CCIP mod;
- features from CDCP mod;
- features from CORE mod;
- and some other minor mods.

That is all work done by now. If you need some explaination, please note me.

 

[unmerged(81141)]

We can call you General Secretary of the Paradox Communist Party!

As for the tracks, I recomend Marš na Drinu(SFRY?), Marširala Kralja Petra garda (Kingdom Yugoslavia) etc.

Those are the good old socialist gigatic acronyms (CKKPSFRJ, for example).

I have the march "Na Drinu", but the recording is not the first class. If somebody has better on, or knows to edit audio files...

 

[molace]

Vladimir II:

For the 1956 revolution.
It happened between october 23 - november 10. So it's not a long period.
I could try to write events about it.
I could make a new country called for example Revolutionary Hungary?
It's flag would be the so called "Holed Flag "( the communist coat of arms cut out of the original one).


Daemoncool:

I think those other pictures would be excellent for the in-game background. (used in research, diplomacy, economy, etc. screens).

 

[unmerged(81141)]

Vladimir II:

For the 1956 revolution.
It happened between october 23 - november 10. So it's not a long period.
I could try to write events about it.
I could make a new country called for example Revolutionary Hungary?
It's flag would be the so called "Holed Flag "( the communist coat of arms cut out of the original one).


Daemoncool:

I think those other pictures would be excellent for the in-game background. (used in research, diplomacy, economy, etc. screens).

All right. You could try to make something.

 

[Daemoncool]

Vladimir II:

For the 1956 revolution.
It happened between october 23 - november 10. So it's not a long period.
I could try to write events about it.
I could make a new country called for example Revolutionary Hungary?
It's flag would be the so called "Holed Flag "( the communist coat of arms cut out of the original one).


Daemoncool:

I think those other pictures would be excellent for the in-game background. (used in research, diplomacy, economy, etc. screens).

Ok! I planning to release a graphical update for Hungary, which will include the new background images, propaganda posters, flags and shields. Today I hope I can finish the revolutionary flag

PS: Yes, the best solution would be a "new" country... for this I also can made background

I think 3+1 tags would be good for Hungary:
- kingdom of Hungary
- People's Republic of Hungary
- Hungarian Republic
- Revolutionary Hungary

 

[Sgt. Optimus]

Isn't 3+1 tags to much for one country?

 

[unmerged(81141)]

Isn't 3+1 tags to much for one country?

I think thet the problem of Hungarian revolution could be settled without four Hungaries.

 

[unmerged(81141)]

To Daemoncool:
Could you rework all shields in EU3 style? Since you know to do that. But I sincerely like shields with Coats of Arms. So we should find special BEL, ALB, POL shields. And I will send you some special shields.

 

[Daemoncool]

I think thet the problem of Hungarian revolution could be settled without four Hungaries.

Ok... then 3 Hungary

First: Simple called "Hungary" which will be the kingdom and the republic too. The shield would be the same which is used by the kingdom, because after all it is our "un"official flag nowdays too.

The second would be the People's Republic of Hungary, with a communist coat of arms, and the third is the revolutionary with the "holed" flag.

 

[unmerged(81141)]

How about this: two Hungaries. One regular from 1936 to '64, which will use both royal and socialist insignia, and one revolutionary for 1956. event, so that we do not change whole code, events, etc for 1936-45 Hungary, and you send me a pm so that I could send you special shields.

 

[Daemoncool]

To Daemoncool:
Could you rework all shields in EU3 style? Since you know to do that. But I sincerely like shields with Coats of Arms. So we should find special BEL, ALB, POL shields. And I will send you some special shields.

Yeah, sure!

 

[Daemoncool]

How about this: two Hungaries. One regular from 1936 to '64, which will use both royal and socialist insignia, and one revolutionary for 1956. event, so that we do not change whole code, events, etc for 1936-45 Hungary, and you send me a pm so that I could send you special shields.

Well, ok

By the way, I found a good propaganda for communist Hungary

 

[molace]

I think thet the problem of Hungarian revolution could be settled without four Hungaries.

If I undestand correctly: You mean that the '56 Revolution event chain should be
like in 23. October a bunch of rebels appear in Budapest, and if the soviets or the communist hungarians can not take it back before 10. November, then Hungary will become independent?

Another question. Will there be states like Transylvania, Vojvodina and Slavonia in the mod?

 

[The Great Duck]

Daemoncool,you seem to be good with graphics making,could you please send a pm to me and explain how to make propaganda and other gfx stuff you know.