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I am not going to have a lot of time to post inbetween now and Sunday, so I thought I would post the updated players list:
That looks like it would be fairly balanced. Also Geofactor said he would be there, and take "whatever is left" so we have the basic crew and an alternate, which is good.
I don't know where Geo and TWM will end up frankly but we can work that out later, perhaps Canada or the Raj, just for fun.
Also. I will set up strat boards at Lord Ederon's in case people want to use them. They should soon be available on the forum for this game over here: http://forums.ederon.net/default.aspx?g=topics&f=103
There is a new patch upgrade that is necessary to play this game:
Download Patch
This will change your checksum to NZQS. Make sure that your load page says "Goering's Delay ver 1.2" and that the checksum is NZQS. So if you have XTPS just install the above patch. If you do not have XTPS, and just have PHVR (DDA 1.3 Beta2) download the complete package which is in my signature below.
Update: I had the strategy forums updated over at Lord Ederon's. Anyone who wants to participate needs to create an account. I think that the only one here who doesn't have an account is Bpscool. Mighty G. is the Allied forum mod, and he needs to invite the other Allies. Link to the forum above in this post.
I am not going to have a lot of time to post inbetween now and Sunday, so I thought I would post the updated players list:
That looks like it would be fairly balanced. Also Geofactor said he would be there, and take "whatever is left" so we have the basic crew and an alternate, which is good.
I don't know where Geo and TWM will end up frankly but we can work that out later, perhaps Canada or the Raj, just for fun.
Also. I will set up strat boards at Lord Ederon's in case people want to use them. They should soon be available on the forum for this game over here: http://forums.ederon.net/default.aspx?g=topics&f=103
There is a new patch upgrade that is necessary to play this game:
Download Patch
This will change your checksum to NZQS. Make sure that your load page says "Goering's Delay ver 1.2" and that the checksum is NZQS. So if you have XTPS just install the above patch. If you do not have XTPS, and just have PHVR (DDA 1.3 Beta2) download the complete package which is in my signature below.
Update: I had the strategy forums updated over at Lord Ederon's. Anyone who wants to participate needs to create an account. I think that the only one here who doesn't have an account is Bpscool. Mighty G. is the Allied forum mod, and he needs to invite the other Allies. Link to the forum above in this post.
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patching to new Version is well... sorry about the cross up today... Perhaps I'll join in When the game is rehosted again as RAJ or something?
Good session. Thanks. Made it to 1939 anyway. China almost done. The world awaits the war.
Update:
The save should be edited for the Sunday game because I screwed up a Hungarian event that is supposed to change its AI when it is given Slovakia, as it was in this game. Spain got the event as opposed to Hungary. As a consequence, Nationalist Spain's neutrality is set to 80, easy to ally, as opposed to 200, impossible to ally.
In the next edition of this mod I am thinking of adjusting the Spanish neutrality based on British or French intervention, as well as the existing triggers, but the decision to make Nationalist Spain impossible to ally under most circumstances was made a long time ago based on discussion we had about play balance (Hiensen was particularly adamant on this point), and so, since it was meant to be this way, I think it should be reset to 200. Axis is free to dow if it like, as always.
Spain also doesn't need to be told to make demand claims on Yugoslavia, Czech and Austria either.
The save should be edited for the Sunday game because I screwed up a Hungarian event that is supposed to change its AI when it is given Slovakia, as it was in this game. Spain got the event as opposed to Hungary. As a consequence, Nationalist Spain's neutrality is set to 80, easy to ally, as opposed to 200, impossible to ally.
In the next edition of this mod I am thinking of adjusting the Spanish neutrality based on British or French intervention, as well as the existing triggers, but the decision to make Nationalist Spain impossible to ally under most circumstances was made a long time ago based on discussion we had about play balance (Hiensen was particularly adamant on this point), and so, since it was meant to be this way, I think it should be reset to 200. Axis is free to dow if it like, as always.
Spain also doesn't need to be told to make demand claims on Yugoslavia, Czech and Austria either.
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The Campaign:
First of all, a little background. My main object here is not the rapid fall of China. Secondly, my object is not to have "phoney war". The object is to conquer China as expeditiously as possible while at the same time spending little to no resources on the campaign. In fact I want to build industry in preparation for the wider war soon to take place, and if I am to build units, I want those units to be units that will have value down the road.
I can spare little for the upcoming campaign against China, because I will be playing against human USA and England, and as a small country I have to make every bit of production count so that I can match their powerful navies in the future.
The first thing I do is lay on 8 serials of 2 industry. I also want to have some Light Cruisers in serial because I really want to be pumping these out by the time I am at war with the Allies. Its important to note that most of the naval ranges for the East is Red have been reduced, and the most modern ships are requred for long distance maneuvers at the distance of Pearl Harbour. I don't want my navy to be hindered in any way.
When the 2-26 incident happens, I go with "crush this coup", even though it is clearly better to "Listen to their Demands", but I am a "historical" kind of guy, so....
As well I rush tech some mountain troops, and for a change I also start a long serial of CAS -- Usually I skip this tech tree and go for long range tactical bombers and Navs. The rest is all industry basically, except for the Soryu carrier which was in the build queue at start.
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By 1937, I have done next to no upgrading, and pulled in all my garrisons from the Islands, and used what logistics generals to save on supplies. My energy deal with Germany (Koontz) ensures that I will have energy to spare when the resources come harder when I am at war. I will upgrade later, when the bonus for upgrading through generations will cut my upgrade costs in half. When I have 1939 Infantry, I will upgrade my army to 1936 and stop upgrade, when I have 1941 infantry I will upgrade again to 1939, and stop upgrade.
At no time will I produce any more infantry. Every single bit of IC must be conserved for the production of specialized units such as Marines, ships and planes.
Since my army is entirely made up of 1918 infantry, and I built no new ones, I will be using my garrisons as an important part of my attack plan for China. They are to be the flank guards of my army in quite sectors.
The only units I have upgraded are my cavalry, which I keep under Crown Prince Higashiguni, who for some reason I can't explain got auto-promoted to Field Martial, over the usual choice which is General Hata. Higashiguni is good enough, though, so I am hardly crying the blues, nor am I in any real hurry, but he and the Mongolian cavalry corps will play a fundamental part in this campaign.
My overall object in the first phase of the war is to use the surprise attack to gain ground while the Chinese are disorganized and before the regular troops arrive to support the second grade Shanxi troops. I definitely want to to get myself down to the Yanghtze river and cross it before winter comes, as I know that a blockade here in December can seriously hamper my advance.
The Battle for Shanxi
First up: get Daytong. This province will be a pain in the ass if properly fortified, so I aim for a two pincer envelopment of Bejing, where I hope to surround my first lot of Chinese troops, and take Daytong while I am at it.
Higashiguni's cavalry is so fast he actually manages to cut himself off as he speeds forward while giving me another angle of attack on Daytong, which gives me the extra "envelopment" bonus. More cavalry is also advancing on Anyang on the north side of the Yangze as well.
Even though my main force is all 1918 infantry, my superior doctrine makes the Japanese Imperial Army an unstoppable steamroller. I make my first months objective easily against the weak Shanxi troops. My main fleet assets are brought up in force to provide shore bombardment up and down each coastal province. Sugiyama is detailed with extending the front to Yucheng. Once taken, I use transports to dump 16 garrisons I had waiting at Dalian, to ensure that no Chinese counter attacks will succeed, while I mop up in Beijing -- these garrisons will be here for a long while, releasing my mobile troops for other operations.
I have made sure the Major-General Kawabe, and the few other engineering leaders I have are given commands, not so much for the purpose of this episode of crossing the Yhangtze, but because they need the practice because there will be many more rivers to cross in the future.
At the end of it all at least 100,000 Chinese troops have been surrendered or killed in the opening phase of the campaign.
The Battle for the Shandong Peninsula
By now I have 5 angles of attack on Daytong, and the defenders are easily routed. We can also see how transporting garrisons are used to bulk up forces along the coast. I try to force Sugiyama's corps across the Yangzhe and into Jinan, but fail. This never works, but I always try.
Daytong dealt with, Higashiguni's cavalry corps runs the mountain chain all along the border with the communist Chinese, supported by units in the foothills to the east, each mountain province falls like dominoes to these multi-pronged attacks. By October I am across the Yhangtze and in the clear, literally since the snows will not fall a lot south of this point.
Here we can see how I have brought up garrisons to fortify the mountain provinces against potential counter attacks. 6 in each of these mountain strongholds is sufficient.
Higashiguni's cavalry have made a full sweep on my right flank coming through the mountains, over the Yhangtze and onward into central China. He continues to play a vital role in keeping the enemy off balance by extending the right flank of my inward seabound hook that intends help isolate and destroy yet more Chinese forces in a pocket in the Shandong peninsula. A single landing force made up of 4 mountain troops completes the pocket by landing at Lianyungang. Garrisons are quickly added at the beachhead to ensure the army is not dislodged.
Notice that China also has garrisons on the coast. These are EIR additions designed to bulk up China's coastal defences and make the campaign that much harder for a human player.
The IJN plays a role here, creating a naval blockade that ensures the speedy capture of the Chinese divisions cut off at Shandong.
In the end another 200,000 Chinese troops are eliminated from the Chinese order of battle, and it is basically all over for China. She simply will not be able to replace the 30 divisions she has lost in the opening phase of the war.
From now on, it is just a hard slog forward, but eventual victory is assured. A few more encirclements using attacks from land and by sea, one at Shanghai, and some more down the coast at Guangzhou and elsewhere are all part of the process of bringing China into the Japanese sphere of influence. But that is in 1938 and 1939, and by then carrier production is in full swing, because the war for the rest of Asia awaits.
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She's done.
The trick was to do it while spending as little as possible. Only a handful of mountain troops, and upgrading the Cavs. Everything else is 1918. This way I managed to build my base industry up by 16 and win the war by 39. It was slow but cost effective.
I started out with 88 IC in Japan proper, and now have 104. About as much as UK mainland has in EIR.
IJN is going to rock the world, I just hope the Allies are up to it.
The trick was to do it while spending as little as possible. Only a handful of mountain troops, and upgrading the Cavs. Everything else is 1918. This way I managed to build my base industry up by 16 and win the war by 39. It was slow but cost effective.
I started out with 88 IC in Japan proper, and now have 104. About as much as UK mainland has in EIR.
IJN is going to rock the world, I just hope the Allies are up to it.
ill may be 10-15 min late,
its the last game for the seson and its overtime now and eventullay penalty shootout *nervous as hell*
But Cueball u can send the savefile by msn to me if iam gonna host.
its the last game for the seson and its overtime now and eventullay penalty shootout *nervous as hell*
But Cueball u can send the savefile by msn to me if iam gonna host.
Ok, edited the save so that Nationalist Spains neutrality is higher, and set Romanias relations with Germany to 200. Germany spent money on Nationalist SPain, so this makes sense to me.
Looking for MG, Geofactor, Koontz (says will be late) at this moment.
Looking for MG, Geofactor, Koontz (says will be late) at this moment.
Well, as I said before it is kind of full at this moment, but we might be able to use someone in a future HOI II NA game, I am planning after the present one finishes, possibly in a couple of weeks.
Thanks to BPScool's intrepid playtesting of the USA, he discovered an event error to do with NAP cancellation and the EUropean war.
I have edited the dissent out and given USA 10,000 supplies as compensation for any dissent burn off the AI did.
I have edited the dissent out and given USA 10,000 supplies as compensation for any dissent burn off the AI did.
OKW Report March 13 1940
1939 19th June Germany DOW Belgium and the allies replys by sending in the large parts by its army into Belgium and the BEF. Hard fighting rages in belgium and the allies manage to push into German soil.
In the morning of 24th June Germany DOW schweiz and the allies is totally surprised, The German Panzer blitz quickly into virtual unguarded French soil and is heading for Paris. The Axis deception attack in Belgium had work over all exceptions.
So after only 18 days France surrender. Then falls Spain, yugoslavia, Grecce as dominos. Whermacht secures Gibraltar while Italians secures Suez.
And German wolfpacks are hunting down allied convoys. And the Regia Marina is less or more intact.
Dönitz and Raeder are still wondering where the Royal Navy is...
German and Italians forces are now trying to encirlce 22 CW Divs in Egypt.
END REPORT
1939 19th June Germany DOW Belgium and the allies replys by sending in the large parts by its army into Belgium and the BEF. Hard fighting rages in belgium and the allies manage to push into German soil.
In the morning of 24th June Germany DOW schweiz and the allies is totally surprised, The German Panzer blitz quickly into virtual unguarded French soil and is heading for Paris. The Axis deception attack in Belgium had work over all exceptions.
So after only 18 days France surrender. Then falls Spain, yugoslavia, Grecce as dominos. Whermacht secures Gibraltar while Italians secures Suez.
And German wolfpacks are hunting down allied convoys. And the Regia Marina is less or more intact.
Dönitz and Raeder are still wondering where the Royal Navy is...
German and Italians forces are now trying to encirlce 22 CW Divs in Egypt.
END REPORT