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Well, seeing that Jools is nowhere to be found, I propose the following:

I'll take over on an interim base until Jools wakes up from his drunken stupor :D
Therefore, if anyone has any events they would like to submit, please do so. I'll compile them into a zip, test it somewhat before, and will release as EEP.zip.

I already have Malacca, Byzantium (historical) and East Europe.

I also reserve the right to change the events if I find them un-balancing - I hope it wouldn't be necessary.

Leaders and Monarchs - updated stats, new - are welcome too.

Send them all to me: panzer51@hotmail.com


Crook
 
I am ansious to test all these event files...
I suppose a centralization is encessary to prevent id conflicts...
 
driftwood,

for the first batch, I don't think it's appropriate (I'm not the one who decides though, I'm just volunteering to put together the first batch and get it out of the way), but after I looked at them I feel some of them are overly unbalancing. I wouldn't mind including them only if significant amount of testing is done.
I think that you guys did a wonderful job trying to create a fictional future for the country that technically didn't have it (no offence :D ). However, adding a whole bunch of core provinces makes no sense - just because they've been yours 700 years ago, doesn't entitle you to no revoltrisk in them. That's just one of the gripes I have against anything after 1453. You know, we had this discussion before, I am staunchly against assigning CBs in Europe and Middle East. I guess, Paradox has to come up with a trigger = provincereligion in order to assign the CB to the province, at least that's the way I'll buy it.

As I said, I'm filling in temporarily, and if Jools decides to include them, it's fine with me.

Crook
 
IIRC the original idea was that a coordinator group would look over the events to check for unbalanced, unhistoric (I'lll come back to that ;)) and other far-off events. Then the collected events would be shipped for testing before final completion/fine-tuning. Personally I am not too fond of having one guy deciding anything (not even Jools :D).

I suggest the EEP get divided into to batches:

1. The EEP general - For added historic events: confirmed and documented historic events.
2. The EEP addendum - for other events: non-historic events of any kind (including post-1453 Byzantine, post-1477 Burgundy etc...)

The reason for this is that I know many players of EU2 want their campaigns to be as historically correct as possible. By having one "certified" main batch these players will be satisfied. Then, if you want those "extra" events fro Byz. or others you add the second batch.
 
Originally posted by Crook
Havard,

the best way to test is just to release the damn thing and let people to play-test it Otherwise, we're not gonna see anything, not in the near future at least.

I know. Just make sure to but the word "beta" or something in it from the beginning :D
 
I agree with all that, and also don't see any reason not to split events into two batches (aside from the fact that filenames are going to be a mess - eep_driftwood_historical_major_byz.txt and eep_driftwood_fantastic_major_byz.txt?).

Clearly people are going to expect a certain level of thoughtfulness and balance in any "official" EEP release. That's why I would like to get all the events out sooner rather than later. Even "bad" events may evolve into really clever ones.

Havard didn't like my Anatolia event, and after some discussion the event was completely reworked into a whole bunch of different ones that are much better, IMHO (Havard may still hate them, I don't know. ;)). Anyway, I was glad to get the feedback and with the way those turned out.

On Byzantium in particular, if you managed to trigger all my events, you would still have less than half the CB shields that Paradox provides in the official release. The EEP events also seem to make it just about impossible for Byzantium to survive the Turks. But clearly there's alot of demand from people to play with more Byzantium events (I get a couple emails a day asking for the zip), and I don't think you should have to play with Paradox's core provinces or in an event-free void because you chose an undead country. :)

Ideally, someone will work up a little GUI so you can turn Byzantium Lives events on or off with a single checkbox.

driftwood
 
The original Turkey file is eep_driftwood_old_major_tur.txt. Just uncomment the second event (3353). It's in the zip.

Havard, will you give events a once-over to make sure none of these are duplicating 1.03 events?

driftwood
 
Originally posted by Crook
I have East Europe, Malacca events, don't know anything about English, Dutch events, or even Turkish. I'll include my own.

Since i missed the deadline for 1.03 with my early Spanish events I might as well throw them in here too... Some revolts in Castile would be nice, right? :D

Originally posted by Crook
Havard, will you give events a once-over to make sure none of these are duplicating 1.03 events?

Sure. I can take a look at it.
 
The zips, please, the zips!
Most of problems, including unbalance, could be better found with dozens of betatester than the examinations of some few people, despite the knowledge and expertise of all these great event designers...
 
Crook - Do you have the British Isles EEP events I put together? I sent a .zip file to Jools a while back, but I'm not sure what happened to it. I can e-mail it to you if you would like.
 
Crook - I just sent to your e-mail the file with my EEP British Isles submission. Let me know if you have any questions or problems