Egupt

[yourworstnightm]

In abe the Mamelukes rule Egypt, but I think we have to rethink that. If the crusades were successful the Ayubids never came to power in Egypt, then the Mamelukes could not have taken over from the Ayubids. The Mamelukes could have made a coup against an other dynasty, but it was during the Ayubid era the meaning of the Mamelukes grew.
During the crusade the Fatmides rueld Egypt, but they wouldn't have been able to hold on to the power anyway. Also shiite is removed, and it would be easy to say that the shiite faith died with the Fatmides.
An interresting idea would be a crusader Egypt, developing very differnt from the other crusader kingdoms with high tolerance for moslems, some influences from the coptic faith, and the evolution of a heresy which could anger the rest of the catholic world. The civil war in Egypt could then be between Christians and Moslems, however Christian Egypt should be able to put itself under protection of The Caliphate against the "pure" Catholics.
Also there could be an eventchain making Egyptian- Nubian relations high, and a complicated chain of events making either Egypt inherit Nubia or reverse (think Swabia's "Where should I rule" events).

 

[unmerged(31994)]

Uhhhh actually, the Ayyubids DID arise - Saladin laid siege against Jeruslem but couldnt take the city.His successor's civil wars and fights for the throne spilled the end of Muslim control of Syria (Momentarily I assume to the Crusaders).The Mamelukes then of course, took the same course historically and took control of Misr.\

I have my doubts regarding a crusader egypt actually.Considering the crusader attacks on the towns of Yenus and Jumblat (where they slaughtered coptics en mass) had united the Muslims and Christians in their hatred to the crusaders.Also, need I remind you what the population did to the Christian's when they entered Dimyat?the Muslims fought with every piece of furniture and object they could lay their hands on.So unless the crusaders slaughtered every Muslim and Coptic from Alexandria to Cairo, the rule of Lower Egypt would be impossible (that and lower Egypt is impenetrable).

Thusly, I find it highly improbable that the populace would have let the crusaders to rule Egypt in peace, and most likely would have forced them out by their rioting.I mean, just look at the KoJ's events for Egypt, they cant even rule it!

 

[yourworstnightm]

Perhaps a Crusader Egypt is a bad idea, but I would want to diminsih tha major aspects of Egypt, since Tunisia apparently can become a major I'm worried about filling North Africa with too many great powers. I would want a development to let the Caipah march in to Egypt more commonplace. The civil war also compicate things since the faction are not able to defeat eachother and The Calipah diploannex one of the factions, leaving the other to look funny throughout the game. Also the Mameluke dynasty is quite boring.