Elite brigade[very small] mod

[unmerged(63886)]

Hi guys,

I'm experimenting with adding a elite brigade mod to symbolize the guard divisions, waffen ss, marine corps, whatever in order to have those little more organized & motivated people that stays and fight when hell reigns upon them but I'm having a bit of trouble of finding some appropriate numbers and such so I thought I' ask you.

The cost

I want it expensive but not to expensive that it's useless IC-days wise so maybe it's best to decide how many days that the IC are going to be multipled by.

It takes 35 days to train a police, 45 days to train an engineer. Since the brigade somehow symbolise extra well trained officers and support functions with special selected and highly motivated people, I'd say 10 weeks feels pretty reasonable. That's 70 days.

An armored car brigade cost 60 x 3 = 180 IC/days and since the elite brigade will have pretty similar stats (+ morale boost & higher org - soft attack & suppresion & prob. softness), I feel would be within the same range and since it takes 70 days to build, it will end up to a cost of 210 IC days which feels pretty reasonable given the advantages one recived.

The bonuses

I'm thinking that a org and morala boost of 20% feels pretty much (as currently) so I'm open to other & better suggestions.

Defensivness & toughness 2

The upkeep

Since it doesn't boost any type of vechiles and is intended to be available for all types of units (and thus, may require oil) I don't think it's a good idea to add oil_consumption.

Supplies however are another issue, since armored cars demand 0.4 but engineers only 0.12, I thought of something like 0.25 or there around.

Feedback?

Oh, and for those who don't like the idea, says that waffen ss wasn't all elite divisions, guard divisions was just a title for divisions that perfmored well etc. Fair enough but I like to have the possibilites to make units which hold outs longer when I for example play a German götterdämung campaign.

 

[koontz]

Have thought about it myself, But imho an org and morale boost of 5% imo. Another idea that ive would guess would take some work if even possible would be to have seperated manpower pools, witch the new pool would represent the militia pools, like all thosse young and old men who fought the war.

 

[Miihkali]

Interesting idea, but then the divisions won't be able to have another brigades. You have to be careful so that elite brigades won't be useless, as any type of another brigade would do roughly the same..

 

[unmerged(63886)]

Have thought about it myself, But imho an org and morale boost of 5% imo. Another idea that ive would guess would take some work if even possible would be to have seperated manpower pools, witch the new pool would represent the militia pools, like all thosse young and old men who fought the war.

I tend to agree with Mihkali that it must be worthwhile to build such a brigade so it won't be as useless (except for a few like ART) as the other brigades but still make it in such a way all divisions is not spammed with it. Trading time & money & attack stats (hard attack, soft attack) against more organisation, morale and stamina (defensivness & toughness) seems like a fair deal but how excatly the numbers should be... Dont know.

I'll slap together something and if any of you (or any other else) like to try and give some input, it would be much appreciated.

An other question, one brigade gotta be replaced by the elite brigade. Which feels most useless? I'm thinking the police while at the same time adjust the garrison unit accordingly; make it more expensive, require a bit more men but raise the suppression value.

 

[Kung Zog]

Sounds like a good trade off.

 

[Miihkali]

One possiblity would be that player can't build these brigades, but gets them through events. The amount would be adjusted to the historical / IC amount or whatever. For example, Germany would get ten per year or so... Events can't add brigades to the pool, but they could add these brigades to the building pool with IC cost zero etc.

 

[unmerged(63886)]

Hi guys, sorry didn't have time to do it until know so if anyone care to try it out and come with some feedback, please do so. And if anyone care to suggest or do new brigade icons, feel free. Bad at imagination. Also, next step - except for tuning the numbers - would be to add some country spefic brigades and I got the big ones covered but though I'd add some 2nd powers as well so feel free to post some images adequat to the mod.

Download : http://www.mediafire.com/?w15yo0p456rz8hd

Current stats:

# Elite Brigade

model = {

cost = 3
buildtime = 70
manpower = 5

defaultorganisation = 20
morale = 20
defensiveness = 5
toughness = 5

supplyconsumption = 0.25
# fuelconsumption = 0.16

upgrade_time_factor = 0.5
upgrade_cost_factor = 1.0
}