By now, "Birth of a Nation" has been released. I wonder how many voters will remember the Wilson quote at the beginning? Will the North condemn his Lost Cause writings, or are they sufficiently hidden from the public eye?
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so, an armistice for 20 years again?
I can only reconcile with Wilson if this time he has the balls to dissolve every empire and not only the underdog ones.
By now, "Birth of a Nation" has been released. I wonder how many voters will remember the Wilson quote at the beginning? Will the North condemn his Lost Cause writings, or are they sufficiently hidden from the public eye?
Racist domestically, moronic abroad, and an all round asshat.These are just two of the reasons I have a deep and profound dislike of Wilson.
Well, technically there is a portrait of Theodore Roosevelt in an earlier chapter that discloses his time spent as President!Even with the support of Republican defectors, I have to wonder if Wilson's chances against Roosevelt are as great as they were historically, when Wilson was facing Roosevelt as a renegade third-party candidate. Regardless, if Wilson can put up a credible challenge, it will certainly be a close-run thing.
The fear of Moscow is real, even in this timeline!Britain and the US cosying up to Germany along the lines of ‘Anglo-Saxon’ ties is never a comforting thing to hear. My hopes of a post-war (interwar?) free from the threat of Völkisch nationalism are growing dimmer and dimmer.
We'll Wilson's policy proposals in action very soon. Needless to say, perhaps much to admire, and much to be cynical about! Just like the real Wilson.so, an armistice for 20 years again?
I can only reconcile with Wilson if this time he has the balls to dissolve every empire and not only the underdog ones.
This is very true, however it is important to remember the white northern voting public wasn't much dissimilar from their southern brethren at the turn of the century. When Birth of a Nation opened in Boston, it was a sell out spectacular. The anti-Lost Cause writing in the North is a post-1960s manifestation. The North was more "bloody shirt" waving, claiming that since they had won the Civil War only they could be trusted with piloting the American republic.By now, "Birth of a Nation" has been released. I wonder how many voters will remember the Wilson quote at the beginning? Will the North condemn his Lost Cause writings, or are they sufficiently hidden from the public eye?
These are just two of the reasons I have a deep and profound dislike of Wilson.
I think it might be a truism that the most consequential presidents have always been unsavory characters. Only Washington and Lincoln, despite some obvious personal flaws, tend to be the most immune from this analysis. Jefferson, Jackson, both Roosevelts, Wilson, LBJ, etc. can all fit that description. Unfortunately, we're soon approaching our conclusion so we may not get to some of those other significant 20th century presidents.Racist domestically, moronic abroad, and an all round asshat.
That being said, still the most significant president of the 20th century...unless we count world ending disasters in which case Truman, Ike and JFK were the most significant by default...
At least you weren't the one playing the game, manipulating the election outcome by having states promote the Democratic Party to make sure Wilson won the election!allow me to be the first to express my disappointment![]()
NoThe big question on everyone's lips:
Will the League of Nations actually work this time?!![]()
The big question on everyone's lips:
Will the League of Nations actually work this time?!![]()
While my realism is inclined to agree with BC, I think the bigger problem we have about the League of Nations as now envisioned and proposed by Wilson is that the Victoria 2 timeline doesn't extend far enough to know what happens!
This is a very important point to acknowledge! Wilson is coming late to the game, with peace already proposed, and seeking to amend what has already been established with the war-weary winners unlikely wanting any change.Nobody tends to get what they want when one of the negotiators changes. Let's see how much influence Wilson can manage from the position of newcomer, rather than war-proven ally!
I'm pretty sure that whatever happens, in whatever reality, the League of Nations will not work. At least, it won't work at maintaining the peace and order of the world (it may do actually useful stuff like a world health organisation or something), given that in OTL, we've been trying to have various versions of a global multinational peacekeeping and dispute resolution organisation for at least the last 2 centuries and none of them have actually been any good at it. Including the United Nations.While my realism is inclined to agree with TBC, I think the bigger problem we have about the League of Nations as now envisioned and proposed by Wilson is that the Victoria 2 timeline doesn't extend far enough to know what happens!
NOTE: While everyone here has been patient with the ongoing slow march to the finale, which I do appreciate, I am announcing that I am slated to be the incoming Head Editor at VoegelinView (an online academic and public journal) that focuses on the thought of Eric Voegelin as well as art, culture, film, literature, philosophy, political theory, theology and more. I have been an associate editor there since my time at Yale but as some of you devoted Paradoxians have intellectual tastes and possibly aspirations, considerations on breaking into the wonderful world of publishing can be PM'd to me. VoegelinView is run by the Eric Voegelin Society in partnerships with Louisiana State University and the University of Wisconsin and will be meeting during the American Political Science Association Meeting. So now might be the time to consider some lofty ambitions that you might have contained in your soul as you know -- and some are friends of -- the incoming editor.
Is that an accurate depiction of Wilson's attitude regarding Mexico? Cause the historical count of who started wars along that border suggests it's someone else that's agitated. Not that I should be surprised at blatant racism from Wilson, I suppose.
I have to say, it was actually very cool to be in England (grad school studies at the time) in November 2018, the 100th anniversary of the Armistice. There was just something more somber, and even special, about being in Europe than America for that day.Happy Fifth Birthday on Armistice Day. Armistice Day & Wilson!
My experience was driving from VA to Boston, Saturday 22 September 2001. (Vacation was long planned.) The display of flags was very moving.I have to say, it was actually very cool to be in England (grad school studies at the time) in November 2018, the 100th anniversary of the Armistice. There was just something more somber, and even special, about being in Europe than America for that day.