Phalanx CIWS.
Every single US Navy ship has at least one of these.
And:
SeaRAM
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Phalanx CIWS.
Every single US Navy ship has at least one of these.
And:
SeaRAM
Really bro, I'm not the one saying that my country can fight the entire world. But you go on thinking that if it makes you sleep soundly at night.
Phalanx CIWS.
Every single US Navy ship has at least one of these.
And the RBS-15 is a smart missle it's made to hide in clouds and fog or use the waves or terrain to mask it's pressence until it is to close to do anything about. And that's the cold war version of it, they've updated it a few times since then.
You're mighty cocky for a nation that havent fought a war against a non third world nation since 1945. We aren't all iraq or afghanistan you know.
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You disagreed that the US Navy has on their ships two internationally renowned and highly capable anti-missile defence systems?
Only Navies. Not Armies. Lets not be silly.
Look at the 10 largest Navies after the US Navy, compare their capabilities, combine them, and then compare that to the US Navy.
Only Navies. Not Armies. Lets not be silly.
Look at the 10 largest Navies after the US Navy, compare their capabilities, combine them, and then compare that to the US Navy.
You again assume they'll line up nicely like the battle of trefalgar, but guess what even during thta battle there was aguy who didn't line up nicely. You assume they'll fight fair and I can assure you only idiots fight fair when figthing a stronger foe.
Sun Tzu said:
Do you understand why he says that?
What? You are taking this way to seriously.
Hasn't my whole point been the incredible non-fairness of the scenario?
What is this lining up nonsense? What is this assumption that stronger forces do fight fair?
Blatantly making up stuff about what I have said demonstrates that you have entirely lost perspective.
I must have struck a nerve.
Anyway, my point was how absurdly over-sized the US Navy is, and how a modern era war-game would be somewhat pointless.
No modern era game would not be pointless, a modern era wargame would be pointless through. The us is declining as an economic supowerpower, in third behind the EU internal market and china. In time that will carry over to military issues too. You're basically doing what the soviets did wrong, spending your economic superiority on maintaining your military superiority. And won't last. Once the world economy starts not to rely on you then the people whom you have loans with will start calling them in and then you go bancrupt.
So yeah the game might seem pointless the first 10 or 50 years but after that?
Then again as I said I don't think any nation can rise to predominance by military might.
Mass effect gives the best representation of mankind going into the stars, not by uniting the world but via them havigna joint space programme while the nations continue to squabble. That said I'd still prefer multi empire planets.
You dont need something big to sink a carrier.
Sure, the rest of the CSG will stay intact, but if you can manage to sink the carrier for the cost of several speed boats... sounds like a bargain for me.
But anyway, its a pure hypothetical discussion with no real arguments from either side if anyone could match or couldnt match the US navy.
Sure, the rest of the CSG will stay intact, but if you can manage to sink the carrier for the cost of several speed boats... sounds like a bargain for me.
But anyway, its a pure hypothetical discussion with no real arguments from either side if anyone could match or couldnt match the US navy.
I don't think any nation can to rise predominance by any means right now. UN has like negative Imperial Authority in terms of HRE. European parliament barely understands why it's even there. Everyone else is not even trying, unification forces are almost absent nowadays.
Mass Effect is pretty cheesy here as well. If there will be colonies, there will Chinese ones, American ones and so on. Good old Caribbeans with rivalry and inevitable independence wars.
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Yeah I agree with you there but it's atleast a more likely scenario than someone actually uniting the world for real.
At least uniting the world is a more likely scenario than the Swedish Navy successfully engaging a US Navy Carrier Battle Group. 
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You keep on thinking that mate.At least uniting the world is a more likely scenario than the Swedish Navy successfully engaging a US Navy Carrier Battle Group.
Yes! YES! Give in to your imagination! I can feel the Nationalism flowing through you!
Those of us who have worked with either of the involved navies raise a hand... oh just me? What a shocker.
This topic seems like it digressed a bit so let me give my idea and return it to the converter some more...
How about when we convert from Earth with multiple winning nations, we only get a starbase around Earth with our factions pop and a share in resources that Earth produces. Earth would remain neutral grounds if there are more than one faction ruling in the converter. Only way to get Earth would be to unify all factions peacefully or wage war and hold Earth, which if you succeed you would get unification CB on the human race. Earth would have the status of something similar like the pope in CK2, but would be ruled by a senate with representatives of other factions. Earth could also issue a call to war to protect a human faction against an alien invasion that if you join in you get some boosts in econ and influence with other humans.
For the glory of Terra.
How about when we convert from Earth with multiple winning nations, we only get a starbase around Earth with our factions pop and a share in resources that Earth produces. Earth would remain neutral grounds if there are more than one faction ruling in the converter. Only way to get Earth would be to unify all factions peacefully or wage war and hold Earth, which if you succeed you would get unification CB on the human race. Earth would have the status of something similar like the pope in CK2, but would be ruled by a senate with representatives of other factions. Earth could also issue a call to war to protect a human faction against an alien invasion that if you join in you get some boosts in econ and influence with other humans.
For the glory of Terra.
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So on top of up to 1000 star systems, tons of different possible races, a new tech tree type, event like anomalies and findings, a - hopefully - detailed and deep diplomatic system with federations you'd like time be invested into a feature that possibily only a few ppl will ever use and thats only meaningful during the first couple of turns until you conquer and destroy the rest of your competitors?
It's meant to add GSGness to the tike until you encounter other species. But also why do you asume you'll even be able to conquer all your same species competitors? I assume there's some sort of infafy mechanic and if you tried the others would team up and tear you a new one.
And after you encounter other species what happens?
You stay split up? Unify against a common enemy-to-be? What if they invade? During an invasion do the others do nothing and the aliens get only a share of the planet?
It might be a nice feature but I cant see it work well without some hours of work put into it, that I personally would think better put into existing features to polish them up a bit.
They are empires like any other empire, they just happen to be of the same species, I guess xenophobes could get some bonus for allying or being in a federation with other of the same species.
But just like our first ancestors journeyed out of africa and founded a thousands of kingdoms and empires all over the world so will the species spread in the galaxy, with the onlky diffrence being that the galaxy may be a bit more crowded with intelligent life than earth is.