Facelifting France: Map, mechanics and more

[neondt]

Foix and Toulon would certainly be worthwhile additions. Carcassonne would split up Toulouse nicely. Not sure about Albret for the reasons Mingmung stated above.

I'm quite happy with the current map of Northern France, I'm not sure that it needs more provinces.

 

[neondt]

Which is an issue @neondt should take into account. It's nice to see that people from Sweden are happy with how things are, but this clearly cannot be the final territorial division.
With the division of England since Rule Britannia, I'm more and more eager for the same level of detail in France, Caux in its actual form is almost insulting.

I mean no offense here, but I think it's important to set the tone for these discussions early: the suggestions and expectations of the community are valuable to the team and especially to me personally given that I'm most directly responsible for this kind of content. However, the tone of the discussion needs to be kept civil and constructive. Using words like "insulting" and taking a demanding tone do nothing to contribute to the discussion and make it less likely that I or other users will take your ideas seriously. I'm very pleased with the recent influx of European map suggestions so far, and there is plenty of material already that will be incorporated in some form into the game. Let's all keep up the good work and retain a positive environment for both devs and forumites to share their ideas.

With all that said, you are still free to make a case for more provinces in northern France. My feeling currently is that it is not necessary, but I'm open to having my mind changed by a good combination of gameplay and historical reasons.

 

[neondt]

Since it was pointed out above that Évreux was in fact a French possession, I've been looking at the status of other cities in the area and found, surprisingly, that even a major coastal city was in French hands in Nov 1444: Dieppe was recaptured on Oct 28, 1435 by Charles Desmarets and was held by France ever after.

Interesting. A French port on the Channel in 1444 could have a big impact.

 

[neondt]

I agree with Neondt that Northern France looks quite good already. I only suggest to him to look at some borders and names:
- Caux; the city of Rouen isn't even located in the Pays de Caux. Rouen would be a better name.
- Armor; a division made after the French Revolution; not a Breton name.
- Finistere; a division made after the French Revolution, also not a Breton name.

I wouldn't mind another province for Brittany, either. But that's up to the devs.

Things like this can (and likely will be) revised.

On the topic of Brittany, I don't feel inclined to add more provinces because it would mean breaking up the area/state; 5 provinces is the most we allow per area, and adding more would force us to make arbitrary and ugly areas that would damage Brittany's in-game cohesion.

 

[neondt]

@neondt serious question here, can we propose some new French / Italian event here?
Events linked to the provinces (i have plenty of Idea for Toulon and other Harbour, linked to the wish of Richelieu and Colbert to conquer the sea and make France a naval power*), or to the History (Maison du Roy) mainly?


Or Paradox only wants us to speak about provinces?

* I've prepared that topic for such a long time, i feel it might be an interesting add for France (but also UK, incidently, and Netherland) in the Q4. That would give more flavour to naval combat but also to the economic side of building a fleet.

Go ahead. We're open to suggestions on all kinds of content - there's still a great deal of planning left to do.