Farmers on the factory

[Sporally]

How can it be that i now two times have experienced that farmers suddenly had begun to work at my factories? Are they poor craftsmen/clearks who transfers into farmers, and because of a bug, maybe, they are not removed? Where do they come from? Converts or just moving into that specific factory?

 

[DGuller]

I have a number of factories that aren't full and can't get anyone to move there--any ideas? I have the highest prestige rating and have the best benefits around--and they still don't come!

Are some of your factories closed?

 

[oldsoldier]

I have a number of factories that aren't full and can't get anyone to move there--any ideas? I have the highest prestige rating and have the best benefits around--and they still don't come!

Who are you playing, as Prussia I get loads of internal migration plus a lot of Poles, Rumanians, and other Eastern Europeans turning up as soon as there is a vacany at a factory (circa 1858).

 

[Sam Gamgee]

I've ha dthis happen to me in 1.02 and 1.03 and I usually linked to POPs devoloving while in factories and not dropping out... I don't use Auto-assign, so I keep a really close eye on my factories. I fgiured it was a minor bug... and relatively easy to deal with in 1.02, but in 1.03 I can't figure out why my POPs are devolving b/ my taxes are less than 50% (49%).

I have 2 theories about this:

1) POPs are devolving b/ their basic needs aren't being met.

2) POPs are devolving b/ I'm taxing to high, and the percentage shown on the taxation slider isn't corelating properly to what the actual taxation rates are.

Either way, I beleive it's craft and clerk POPs devolving and not dropping out of factories properly. I have a save game wihch I could sned to you Derek if it helps.

 

[Derek Pullem]

No don't bother - we can duplicate it easily.

The problem is suspected to be linked to the emmigration routine as the POPs that devolve are more likely to be minorities than national cultured. johan is looking at possibility that fractional emmigration of POPs ends up devolving the remaining pop to farmer / labourer.

For your info the output of a farmer / labourer in a factory is the same as a craftsman.

 

[djconklin]

Who are you playing, as Prussia I get loads of internal migration plus a lot of Poles, Rumanians, and other Eastern Europeans turning up as soon as there is a vacany at a factory (circa 1858).

I'm playing as Britain, have converted about 8-9 groups to craftsman and get _no_ migration of any of them whatsoever.

 

[Dark Knight]

Moved to bug forum.

 

[unmerged(23444)]

I have 2 theories about this:

1) POPs are devolving b/ their basic needs aren't being met.

2) POPs are devolving b/ I'm taxing to high, and the percentage shown on the taxation slider isn't corelating properly to what the actual taxation rates are.

Well I can tell you that it's not theory #1--or at least not entirely. I've tweaked the economy files so that all my clerks and craftsmen are getting 100% of their life needs at <50% taxation, and I'm still getting farmers and labourers.

I think it definitely has something to do with migration, because I end up having little groups of about 900-1000 Polish farmers, Jewish labourers and the like, in my factories.

They may be no less efficient than an equal number of craftsmen, but 900 Poles with pitchforks don't do anything very efficiently.