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RagingMonkey

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Just a thread to see any general flavour suggestions people have.

Personally I'd love to see the Swiss Canton system fleshed out as its own government form, reflecting the decentralised but ultimately highly cooperative nature of the government.
 
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I love threads about regional or country specific flavor. I feel a thread aiming to contain all such would perhaps be a bit hard to follow for me however. Maybe this could act as the NI compilation thread (ie as a threrad that references and collect suggestions but aren't the main arena to discuss them as that's often done in separate threads)?
If you have the will for it this thread and the other could do well with an index with links to specific suggestions as well :)

As a general note:
Suggestion threads for flavor are useful for two things: We (well which one of us depends on the nature of the suggestion) read them to get ideas in general but we also go trawling for them when we are approaching a region/country/mechanic/etc that we are interested in doing something with.
For me (author of maps, events, etc) it has become a natural part of the routine when researching new things. It is with this in mind that I suggest the above :)
 
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In the ''compendium'' spirit of the thread, i would like to mention this mod, especially it's South America. It's the worst continent in terms of flavour (Not counting oceania and antartica for obvious reasons) , and the last bastion of the Cult of the Boar, aka ''Animism'' in the New World.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674823151

I dont use it because it adds tags in Australia and clutters the Americas with a lot of excess tags, but it's South America is closer what i would want to see in EU4

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Well, probably a few tags could be very well removed, but better than the current map, which has just 9 non Andean tags in the entire continent, in contrast to the myriad tribes in North America


2. Also, it has still ''Animsim''. It's pretty wierd that the only nations who share their religion are east asian tags, resulting a lot of wierd stuff. Tupi/Guarani faith is very well documented, for an example, since Jesuits used aspects of it to ease the conversion, such as equating certain dieties to God and Satan. The fetishist system could be easily adapted for the South American tribal tags, and they could include Chirstian elements to their faiths after contact.

3. The continent as a whole is too poor when compared to reality. While recently it has not been the case, South America was the true wealth of both Portugal and Spain, with vast plantations and incredible precious metal mines. Currently Potosi is just pretty much a nice spot, not the massive jackpot it was in real life, for instance.

Brazil is basically avoided like the plague by the AI due to it's tropical malus, and over all poverty of the land. While ut was indeed required some investment on Portugal's part, the wealth generated by Brazil's plantations was immense. Buffing the coastal provinces while leaving the interior ''dirt poor'' as it is would make a historical scenario where the colonizer, Portugal or otherwise, will colonize the coast eagerly and then leave the colony to it's own devices.
 
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Fairly minor flavor modifier:

Mandarin Bureaucracy

Although the people of China no longer speak a single language, there is a sanctioned form, known as Mandarin, which is used by the Ming bureaucracy irrespective of local speech. Over time, merchants, travellers, magnates, and soldiers came to speak the language, which greatly facilitates administration across provinces.

Condition:
Culture is in the Chinese group
Rank is not empire

Effect:
Same culture group:
+10% local tax modifier
+10% manpower
+10% sailors

This should help Chinese revolters to perform a bit better by making other Chinese provinces more lucrative. If the AI can recognize it, this should also help steering the revolters towards fighting inside China than blobbing in all directions.
 
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Personally, I'd like to see some flavour when it comes to the peoples of the steppes moving about like they did IRL. Like at this point in time, the Nogai were steadily migrating around the Caspian sea to the south. It'd be neat to see populations within a horde change overtime if expansion is in a certain direction and be replaced by another culture. In this case, Nogai being replaced by Kazakh. But I guess this would be too difficult to emulate
 
I would love to have a suggestion thread on a specific topic. Then people can Use the "Agree" function for there favourite suggestion. Then one can keep a list of the most popular suggestions (using sort, or complied in the top thread).

Maybe this is not the best topic for such a compilation though.
 
With regards to the OP:
- Switzerland could get a special government to better reflect the difficult balance between rural/urban cantons.
- New tags should be created with historical friendship with Switzerland to represente associate entities of the Swiss confederacy:
  • Geneva (once of the actual Center of Reformation for the Calvinist-in game Reformed faith). The city state of Geneva has a long history with Savoy, Switzerland and even France during the game's period.
  • Valais/Seven Zenden: As well as spliting the province of Valais in two (lower Valais owned by Savoy, Upper Valais independent as the Seven Zenden).
  • Three leagues: in Graübunden, as they weren't a part of the confederacy until Napoleon. They had favoured relations of course, but also dealt with Milan, Spain, Austria and France (see the Valtellina war)
  • Of course, Switzerland would lose their cores there, but would get potential allies around them. In my view, a much more accurate situation.
A specific Arpitan culture (or franco-provençal) belonging to the French group should also be created and be the culture of Savoy (province), Geneva, Lower Valais, Dauphiné and maybe Lyonnais. Savoy should get a decision to move the capital to Piedmont which would change their culture to Piedmontese (from Arpitan). Only a Savoy with Piedmontese culture could form Sardinia-Piedmont.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Provençal_language
 
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