Food usage per day and other numbers

[Lyrandon]

I don't really like that some aspects of colony management are hidden from you, like the actual usage of food per colonist per day. I ran a test game with only 10 colonists and it seems the usage is around 0.2 food per day, but some days it is a lot lower. Has anyone found out some other numbers?

I can only assume not to give the player those numbers is to create a fake difficulty to let him run into problems he cannot foresee, like your one farm is just not enough for all those people...

There are a lot more numbers i would like to hear...
1) Which length is too long for a cable so it breaks more than normally?
2) Whats the distance extractors increase dusting of other buildings?
3) What exactly is the formula for collaboration loss?

 

[Chaon]

1) The length of the cable doesn't determine how often it breaks, it just means that the chance of a break somewhere increases because there are more cable lengths around.

 

[BarbeQ]

Yeah, some of these 'missing details' are bothering me as well. In the grid overview I would like to see max storage capacity for power/O2/water. Not only the currently stored amount. The icing on top would be, if the details about power/O2/water were listed separately for day and night.

 

[jfjohnny5]

1) The length of the cable doesn't determine how often it breaks, it just means that the chance of a break somewhere increases because there are more cable lengths around.

That's how you think it *would* work, but it actually works out that if you have one cable that is 50 units long, and five cables that are 10 units long each, the per segment failure rate of the 50 unit cable is higher. The length of the cable/pipe run actually affects the per segment failure rate; for reasons that make no sense whatsoever.

Also, agree with OP - we should be able to see all of those stats, and more.

 

[UncleGamer]

I actually prefer that some of the game mechanics are hidden, makes you play the game, not game the system ;-)

 

[Chaon]

That's how you think it *would* work, but it actually works out that if you have one cable that is 50 units long, and five cables that are 10 units long each, the per segment failure rate of the 50 unit cable is higher. The length of the cable/pipe run actually affects the per segment failure rate; for reasons that make no sense whatsoever.

Also, agree with OP - we should be able to see all of those stats, and more.

I haven't really experimented, just working off my small game. The frequency of cable breaks or pipe bursts doesn't seem to be increasing as my network grow. Since it is supposed to be a random thing, how do you know that you haven't hit a 'bad luck' patch causing cables to break a lot more?

 

[Calvax]

I actually prefer that some of the game mechanics are hidden, makes you play the game, not game the system ;-)

There's a difference between game mechanics that you have to figure out and stats that any colony should be able to pull up instantly: like how much food we're producing/consuming on average per day. Not averaging that data isn't just bad it's completely useless.

 

[Herbert West]

Not to mention that in most managerial games, figuring out the system and gaming it IS the core gameplay.

Then again, the consensus seems to be that noone paid much attention to the post-first-dome phase of the game during developemtn or QA.

 

[jfjohnny5]

Then again, the consensus seems to be that noone paid much attention to the post-first-dome phase of the game during developemtn or QA.

Can I just say that it really makes me sad to realize and admit to myself that this is probably true? I'm not sure if they ran out of time, or if it was a conscious decision, but it feels like all the attention was put into the initial "hook" - leaving little to no real gameplay with any depth beyond the early game.

 

[Herbert West]

Can I just say that it really makes me sad to realize and admit to myself that this is probably true? I'm not sure if they ran out of time, or if it was a conscious decision, but it feels like all the attention was put into the initial "hook" - leaving little to no real gameplay with any depth beyond the early game.

Oh, I am quite sure this is deliberate. Most streamers also only played up to the first colony/first 100 Sols. In addition, the time needed to grow past the first dome is riiight around 2 hours.

 

[Beric]

Oh, I am quite sure this is deliberate. Most streamers also only played up to the first colony/first 100 Sols. In addition, the time needed to grow past the first dome is riiight around 2 hours.

Make that 5-10 hours on hard difficulties.

 

[Herbert West]

Make that 5-10 hours on hard difficulties.

I was alluding to the magical 2 hour refund limit.

 

[Beric]

I was alluding to the magical 2 hour refund limit.

Ah, gotcha.

 

[MacroNova]

I definitely agree that not knowing exactly how much food each colonist consumes and each farm produces per day is very frustrating.

 

[icon41gimp]

Random guy on reddit mentioned that he worked out consumption to be .125 food per non-gluttonous colonist per day.

 

[MarQan]

Random guy on reddit mentioned that he worked out consumption to be .125 food per non-gluttonous colonist per day.

Sounds about right. It's definitely closer to .1 than .2
I've had maxed out food with ~25 daily produciton and ~200 colonists.