Force-vassalizing Teutonic Order

[Veldmaarschalk]

Now that you can force someone to be your vassal, you can now force-vassalize kinglevel titles

 

[Pellucid]

Is that a bug, though? It sounds pretty cool to me.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Well don't know about that, but it was never intended that way AFAIK. You can now even win the title in a war

 

[Pellucid]

Well don't know about that, but it was never intended that way AFAIK. You can now even win the title in a war

You could do that in CK 1.0. I did it and it crashed my game whenever I attempted to start it again, haha.

Personally, I think the idea of vassalizing king titles makes perfect sense; the situation has happened many times in history. Furthermore, it gets rid of those annoying one-province blobs in Jerusalem and Livonia by integrating them into another country, which is really more indicative of the status of most knightly orders anyway (basically only the Teutonic Order was totally independent if my knowledge of history serves me).

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

You could do that in CK 1.0. I did it and it crashed my game whenever I attempted to start it again, haha.

I remember that to and that is why after I took this screenshot I immediately gave the title away

Personally, I think the idea of vassalizing king titles makes perfect sense; the situation has happened many times in history. Furthermore, it gets rid of those annoying one-province blobs in Jerusalem and Livonia by integrating them into another country, which is really more indicative of the status of most knightly orders anyway (basically only the Teutonic Order was totally independent if my knowledge of history serves me).

That might be, but I still think that its a bug.

 

[Pellucid]

That might be, but I still think that its a bug.

What I was really hoping they'd do is change the AI and gameplay mechanic of the Golden Horde so that it would make deliberate attempts to vassalize dukes and kings rather than just annexing land (which is more akin to what they actually did), but oh well.

I guess I only posted here in hopes that the devs would note that some people like this whether it's a bug or a feature.

 

[minority]

Duke vassalising Sultan and revoking his title.

Playing as the Duke of Sicily and a vassal to the King of Sicily, I managed to win a war with the Sultanate of Rum and tried the vassalisation option in the peace negotiations.

It went through and I thus had the Sultan of Rum as my vassal and a sheik as hi vassal.

To add to that, I managed to revoke his title and thus I became the the independent King of Rum. I'm pretty sure this isn't WAD.

cheers

 

[unmerged(2456)]

No. Sultan = King level so kings shouldn't be allowed to be force-vassalized.

 

[Johan]

I'd like a savegame of this BEFORE the peace, send to johan@paradoxplaza.com

 

[joriandrake]

umm...johan, he posted that 6 months ago, if you are interested in that maybe you should PM him...he might still have the save,who knows?

edit: i just mean he might not even visit this thread anymore

edit2: btw, when was Deus Vult released again? maybe this problem was from before it

 

[Pellucid]

I'd like a savegame of this BEFORE the peace, send to johan@paradoxplaza.com

Johan, the method of vassalizing someone with a higher title than you is as follows:

1. Declare war.
2. Conquer all provinces.
3. As part of peace resolution, you submit to become their vassal.

Instead of you becoming their vassal, they become yours, even if they are a higher title than you (I used this to vassalize the Chief of the Lithuanians, then revoke his title and become Duke of the Lithuanians).