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Yes, I know and transhumanism is alive for oer a decade. Stimulants, AAS, c-MET agonists etc. And it greatly increases intellectual and physical capacity but it is not changing us, not yet at least. And the use of these substances is more widespread than most would like to believe.

Evolution has no direction conservation of features is a solid path -> people will be people.
Transhumanism goes far beyond that, in fact I mostly hear the concept as it relates to genetics or cybernetics, and once we start recoding our genes or interfacing computers with out brains, it basically is the singularity. Just a lot more likely one than the AI version.

Also people will ne be people since by the definition of today they won't be anything like people.
 
The idea that socalist or communist idea could work in future is not denied by human nature. There is the possibility to alter human bahavior to the better...modern socities dont rely on murder and survival of the fittest but on law and solidarity...to be clear i know what i said is more an ideal than fully achieved but look back to earlier times these were more rough and deadly than our modern times....it isnt that wrong to believe that in a future where is a surplus of everything our socity would be communistic thats not to say that this might lead to stagnation...but maybe there is no need to advance even further at some point...truth is we dont know what live will be in 50 years and we surely dont know what live would be in 50000 years or in the 41st millenia...so the assumption that there might be space communism is out of our perspective as likely as space kingdoms or even new ways of social organisation
 
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Transhumanism goes far beyond that, in fact I mostly hear the concept as it relates to genetics or cybernetics, and once we start recoding our genes or interfacing computers with out brains, it basically is the singularity. Just a lot more likely one than the AI version.

Also people will ne be people since by the definition of today they won't be anything like people.


We are trying to recode our genes for a long time, we also are able to manipulate a plethora of hormones ( protip: genes encode hormones ), and we will have advanced pharmaceuticals before we will have advanced genetical engineering. Pharmaceutics dors what genetics do agonize or antagonize receptors to a certain degree. Genetics could add new receptors, but well unless it is some kind of totally synthetic receptor the new ones would compete with the old ones.
Similar problems arise with the creation of AIs our brains are extremely over the top complicated electro-chemical computers ( analogue and multiple way encoding ), brains have no clock rate and are far different. A good article for people without neurological education: http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2007/03/27/why-the-brain-is-not-like-a-co/ . As someone who used to be a futurist ( the actual grey kind ) I invested huge amounts of time reading up on pharmacy, neurology, brain-c-interfacing. When I started studying I did a lot of courses unrelated to my degree mainly bio, neurology, biochem and pharma. The more I learnt the more I understood how bullshit sci-fy and transhumanism really is.

The game should of course include genetic engineering, c-implants and nanites. Self-Aware computers etc. Cause it is fun, that is why we should care less about RL implications/feasibility and more about the PURGING OF ALL XENOS!
 
Love the idea of forced migration. I would like to play as a federation and be able recruit oppressed people in tyranical empires to generate casus belli or ultra loyal pops.
 
We are trying to recode our genes for a long time, we also are able to manipulate a plethora of hormones ( protip: genes encode hormones ), and we will have advanced pharmaceuticals before we will have advanced genetical engineering. Pharmaceutics dors what genetics do agonize or antagonize receptors to a certain degree. Genetics could add new receptors, but well unless it is some kind of totally synthetic receptor the new ones would compete with the old ones.
Similar problems arise with the creation of AIs our brains are extremely over the top complicated electro-chemical computers ( analogue and multiple way encoding ), brains have no clock rate and are far different. A good article for people without neurological education: http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2007/03/27/why-the-brain-is-not-like-a-co/ . As someone who used to be a futurist ( the actual grey kind ) I invested huge amounts of time reading up on pharmacy, neurology, brain-c-interfacing. When I started studying I did a lot of courses unrelated to my degree mainly bio, neurology, biochem and pharma. The more I learnt the more I understood how bullshit sci-fy and transhumanism really is.

The game should of course include genetic engineering, c-implants and nanites. Self-Aware computers etc. Cause it is fun, that is why we should care less about RL implications/feasibility and more about the PURGING OF ALL XENOS!
And yet we have today the ability for one person to control the body of another by transfering brainwaves. Ddin't you see the TED talk, where the guy causes the woman's fist to close? We can theretically splice in the gene requires to make diabetic people capable of producing insulin, but since genemodification on humans is kind of a big step it'll take a while to get through testing. But again a thing like increasing adrenaline output or making sure the growth hormne kept being produced for a longer time is definatly doable and those qualify as transhumanism.

As for computers their ability to keep up with the brain will take a jump start with the qbit. A non binary bit. We did try dna computing and even protein computing but thus far it seems that we atleast need quantum cumputing as a stepping stone.

The point is evolution is random, sure it'll take us time to get to where we can realiably change the human form but once we can we can use higher physics than nature could reach if it tried random things for a hundred billion years more. Or well since we're just a random heap of atoms in the universe, we actually are the universe experimenting on itself.
 
And yet we have today the ability for one person to control the body of another by transfering brainwaves. Ddin't you see the TED talk, where the guy causes the woman's fist to close? We can theretically splice in the gene requires to make diabetic people capable of producing insulin, but since genemodification on humans is kind of a big step it'll take a while to get through testing. But again a thing like increasing adrenaline output or making sure the growth hormne kept being produced for a longer time is definatly doable and those qualify as transhumanism.

As for computers their ability to keep up with the brain will take a jump start with the qbit. A non binary bit. We did try dna computing and even protein computing but thus far it seems that we atleast need quantum cumputing as a stepping stone.

The point is evolution is random, sure it'll take us time to get to where we can realiably change the human form but once we can we can use higher physics than nature could reach if it tried random things for a hundred billion years more. Or well since we're just a random heap of atoms in the universe, we actually are the universe experimenting on itself.

Yes I know warwicks experiments we also are able to semi-synchronize brains; https://www.newscientist.com/articl...up-to-make-mind-melded-computer/#.VZ8Cdfkgw8O . Wanna know whats the fun part with all these this is? We have no knowledge about theif safety and long-term effects. You can just inject GH or use secretagogues, as I said you can do it with genetics; you can do it with pharmacy. Same side-effects. GH decreases life-span and gives you a shitty looking gut. All the hype for genetics is way overrated, pharaceutical compounds are better unless we fully understand all side-effects. Which we will nderstand by testing/ empiricy.

Quantum computers will be better at face recognition, but way worse at 2 dimensional maths and problem solving. Qbits are nowhere close to neuronal functionality or complexity. Our brains are a collevtive of self-organizing living organisms, I mean so is ou whooe body but still. Computers are way inferior to our brain make-up, despite what tech-gurus want you to believe. Computers will not come anywhere clse during the next decade and considering all the chemical-enancements who can realiable produce cognitive enhancement; prolly not the next hundred years.

Each Neuron has a giant set of states towards each neuron it is connected to with dendrites, then some Neuron form brain parts which have a giant amounts of states with each other. Then there is brain-wide chemical signaling, which is parralel. And thats just the beginning, neurology is in its baby-shoes. We do not know jack.


Mutations are random, selection is only random small-scale, big scale it us geared towards survival and genetical fitness. We do not want to gear up for genetical survival, the whole point of transhumanism is to leave that behind. We are extremely efficient and self-reliable, genetical fitness means making as many fertile and surviving babies as possible. If bigger brains are the way good, if smaller brains are the way good. Evolution is geared towards this one thing. Our artifical selection as seen on dogs is way different, strength and intelligence become their own end.

Also pharmacy is actually superior to genetical engineering, if bad long-term effects arise yoh can just stop sticking the needle/ pooping the pill. Sure some genes can be de-activated, but not all. And on top of that most genes encode for multiple hormones and receptors.
A good example here is hypergonadotropism ( This is producing too much Testosterone, I suffer both the good and bad consequences if this ) vs people taking steroids. People taking steroids can just stop taking them if a problem arises, I on the other hand have to do shit tons of cardio and eat a low-to medium fat diet all the time. I can not turn this off, it is my hoeostasis my baseline. I could be dying from it, my body woukd just produce more. I mean it is not that bad, it actually has a really low chance for a negative impact and it forces me into a healthy lifestyle, so it s probably more a gift than a curse.
But other people produce too much Adrenaline as their baseline and that is way more dangerous.
 
Don't worry they will automatically want to leave your socialist Empire.You wont need to do anything,
Even though I'm generally very leftist, though not communist, this was still the funniest thing I read all day. :D
 
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Yes I know warwicks experiments we also are able to semi-synchronize brains; https://www.newscientist.com/articl...up-to-make-mind-melded-computer/#.VZ8Cdfkgw8O . Wanna know whats the fun part with all these this is? We have no knowledge about theif safety and long-term effects. You can just inject GH or use secretagogues, as I said you can do it with genetics; you can do it with pharmacy. Same side-effects. GH decreases life-span and gives you a shitty looking gut. All the hype for genetics is way overrated, pharaceutical compounds are better unless we fully understand all side-effects. Which we will nderstand by testing/ empiricy.

Quantum computers will be better at face recognition, but way worse at 2 dimensional maths and problem solving. Qbits are nowhere close to neuronal functionality or complexity. Our brains are a collevtive of self-organizing living organisms, I mean so is ou whooe body but still. Computers are way inferior to our brain make-up, despite what tech-gurus want you to believe. Computers will not come anywhere clse during the next decade and considering all the chemical-enancements who can realiable produce cognitive enhancement; prolly not the next hundred years.

Each Neuron has a giant set of states towards each neuron it is connected to with dendrites, then some Neuron form brain parts which have a giant amounts of states with each other. Then there is brain-wide chemical signaling, which is parralel. And thats just the beginning, neurology is in its baby-shoes. We do not know jack.


Mutations are random, selection is only random small-scale, big scale it us geared towards survival and genetical fitness. We do not want to gear up for genetical survival, the whole point of transhumanism is to leave that behind. We are extremely efficient and self-reliable, genetical fitness means making as many fertile and surviving babies as possible. If bigger brains are the way good, if smaller brains are the way good. Evolution is geared towards this one thing. Our artifical selection as seen on dogs is way different, strength and intelligence become their own end.

Also pharmacy is actually superior to genetical engineering, if bad long-term effects arise yoh can just stop sticking the needle/ pooping the pill. Sure some genes can be de-activated, but not all. And on top of that most genes encode for multiple hormones and receptors.
A good example here is hypergonadotropism ( This is producing too much Testosterone, I suffer both the good and bad consequences if this ) vs people taking steroids. People taking steroids can just stop taking them if a problem arises, I on the other hand have to do shit tons of cardio and eat a low-to medium fat diet all the time. I can not turn this off, it is my hoeostasis my baseline. I could be dying from it, my body woukd just produce more. I mean it is not that bad, it actually has a really low chance for a negative impact and it forces me into a healthy lifestyle, so it s probably more a gift than a curse.
But other people produce too much Adrenaline as their baseline and that is way more dangerous.
Look if you want the future to be dull you'll alsways find te facts to support it. But that's all defetist talk, there are a lot of people a lot smarter than you or even I who belive that we'll figure these things out in our lifetime. (Well in mine I have no idea how odl you are) and regardless eventually we'll figure them out over the scope of eternity we'll figure everything out.. Let's agree to disagree.
 
Even though I'm generally very leftist, though not communist, this was still the funniest thing I read all day. :D

Asf ar as I am aware proper leftists are opposed to communism, as it failed so hard in practice. Albeit that prolly only applies to liberal-leftists, whereas authoritarian leftists still
Look if you want the future to be dull you'll alsways find te facts to support it. But that's all defetist talk, there are a lot of people a lot smarter than you or even I who belive that we'll figure these things out in our lifetime. (Well in mine I have no idea how odl you are) and regardless eventually we'll figure them out over the scope of eternity we'll figure everything out.. Let's agree to disagree.

Why dull? I am a realist, we will have extreme advances in pharmaceutical research, during my lifetime ( 22 working on masters and currently working in corporate consultancy willswitch to medical project lead when I have enough cash to not care anymore, well I have tons of side-projects either way, so I might switch over after masters ). The singularity is supposed to be happening for over 30 years now, go read some old mags it is quite laughable what "tech experts" dream about.

You are calling out to authority to disprove facts! That is unscientific. Over the course of eternity yes of course, I fully agree. But the best robot wiee we will see is prolly an upgraded version of Baxter. Maybe automated cars. Lots of virtual reality stuff, which will set real science back cause funds will be allocated toward VR-development.

Warwicks experiments will prolly/hopefully result in the first bio-feedback for drones etc. So they can be controlled way better.

If you wanna see solid-science and not that philosophical crap; biotech and peptides we currently make huge advancements