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I've been playing this game for quite some time now and I don't think I've ever had a foreign (i.e. AI controlled) nation offer me a cash gift to improve relations (or even a letter of insult to make me mad). Come to think of it, I've also never had anyone want to exchange maps or any other diplomatic function except declaring war, offering peace, and occasionally (rarely) offering an alliance. Any idea why the AI doesn't use the other diplomatic options very often? Do they never do it or is it because of my BadBoy rating or what? I think that if I shell out hundreds of ducats to improve my relations, the AI should be giving some back when they want my friendship.
 
If you're not getting anyone offering to exchange maps, you're probably playing Austria :D

If you're Spain, Portugal, France or England, you nearly always get loads of people bugging you for copies.
 
Map exchange offers/requests are quite common, with, quite logically, more occurring the higher your relations to each other-if you're at plus 190 with a country with colonists you can get two or three a year from the same country-and it doesn't put them off if you repeatedly say "no".

I'd guess the AI doesn't send insults because it doesn't send gifts-they're all part of the same aspect of the diplomatic model.
 
Thanks for your thoughts y'all. You're definitely right that us humans can't be expected to play fair against the AI. :D :rolleyes: Maybe I just don't remember being asked for maps cuz I've only really played one colonial nation (England) and that was my very first game ever. Since then I've done Russia, Turkey, Venice, and Bohemia, and none seem to get many requests for maps or anything like that. Though I do remember once, as Russia, being insulted by the French and thereby gaining a CB against them. I also remember thinking at the time, "What the hell is Russia gonna do with a CB against France?"
 
Originally posted by Gandalf
Though I do remember once, as Russia, being insulted by the French and thereby gaining a CB against them. I also remember thinking at the time, "What the hell is Russia gonna do with a CB against France?"
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That's a random event. As with the Stolen Sea Maps RE giving you the maps of Poland, and entirely in keeping with Murphy's Law of EU, it always affects a country you can't possibly attack even if you wanted to, which you don't.
 
For example, as England you'll always find the CB is against Russia-who are never allied with any of your real targets!:(
 
Originally posted by BiB
Bah, random events, don't use those :D
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One does sometimes feel you'd rather be playing an even more deterministically historic game than EU provides BiB-your penchant for the 1520 start is a case in point!:)
 
I like my game quite historic, yes :D

I ysed to play with random events on at the start though but they got too freaky IMO. The turning point was when I knew all the inland of the Americas with Austria before the English barely had a few colonies at the coast :D
 
Conquistador or stolen rutters?

Oh, and the English AI can sometimes really suck at colonisation.
 
Well, you did better than me-the one time I got a conquistador as Austria, he died about two months later-have never quite been able to work that one out, normally they come with a standard twelve year life-span!:) :confused:
 
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