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Repealing of the Tannenbergertag: Yay
Formation of the Rotfrontkampferbund: Yay
Public Safety Act: Nay
Thalman, KDP
Formation of the Rotfrontkampferbund: Yay
Public Safety Act: Nay
Thalman, KDP
((We don't even have a budget yet and really acts can be proposed as long as they can be voted on before the deadline.))
219 billion to put into the budget
Military: .5 billion
Welfare: 40 billion
Infrastructure: 38 billion
Transportation: 30 billion
Education: 50 billion
Healthcare: 40 billion
Reparations: 20.5 billion
Budget: Yes
SPD
Military: .5 billion
Welfare: 40 billion
Infrastructure: 38 billion
Transportation: 30 billion
Education: 50 billion
Healthcare: 40 billion
Reparations: 20.5 billion
Budget: Yes
SPD
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((When new things get added to the voting, do we need to post a new vote or just edit the original vote?))
Repealing of the Tannenbergertag: Nay
Public Safety Act: Yay
Budget: Yay
Karl Joseph Wirth, Zentrum Party
Public Safety Act: Yay
Budget: Yay
Karl Joseph Wirth, Zentrum Party
OOC: i throught this died. well i hate when alert bugs out. GM please wait for while before update while i will try to be quick
i apologize for my late speech but i found something that turns Safety act from safety bill into Rightish powergrab. AND THAT IS THE REQUIERMENT Of the landed property ownership this would make it imposible for poor who are mostly voting left to gain weapons even if they would fullfill all the other requests
Thefore i propose that instead of Property ownership there would be mental test. Requiring Being examinated by certified Psychologist. In current form i have to Vote against safety act
As for regards of tannerberg. The problem with this is raising ONE BATTLE in the entire war as THE HIGHEST. WHY NO MAKE ANOTHER DAY FOR SOMME WHY NOT MAKE ANOTHER DAY FOR VERDUN.BUT THOSE WERENT AGAINST BOLSEVICK RIGHT ? AGENDA OF THE RIGHT CERTAINLY SHOWS. MANY OFFICERS HERE STILL DREAM OF GLORY OF WAR. ALL OF THEM ARE GENERALS OR MARSCHALS THE OFFICERS WHO NEVER SAW THEIR OWN MEN DIYING BESIDE THEM.STOP TRYING TO DIRTY THE MEMORY OF HEROES WITH YOUR POLITICS. STOP TRYING TO USE DEATH HEROES AS PAWNS FOR YOUR SCHEMES.
I VOTE FOR REPEAL OF TANNERBURG.
Instead i propose that we Repeal tannerberg and
Create The Day of German Heroes as national holiday in its place.
The Repealing of the Tannenbergertag Yay
The Public Safety Act of 1922 Nay
Budget: Yay
Dietrich Jager USPD
Thefore i propose that instead of Property ownership there would be mental test. Requiring Being examinated by certified Psychologist. In current form i have to Vote against safety act
As for regards of tannerberg. The problem with this is raising ONE BATTLE in the entire war as THE HIGHEST. WHY NO MAKE ANOTHER DAY FOR SOMME WHY NOT MAKE ANOTHER DAY FOR VERDUN.BUT THOSE WERENT AGAINST BOLSEVICK RIGHT ? AGENDA OF THE RIGHT CERTAINLY SHOWS. MANY OFFICERS HERE STILL DREAM OF GLORY OF WAR. ALL OF THEM ARE GENERALS OR MARSCHALS THE OFFICERS WHO NEVER SAW THEIR OWN MEN DIYING BESIDE THEM.STOP TRYING TO DIRTY THE MEMORY OF HEROES WITH YOUR POLITICS. STOP TRYING TO USE DEATH HEROES AS PAWNS FOR YOUR SCHEMES.
I VOTE FOR REPEAL OF TANNERBURG.
Instead i propose that we Repeal tannerberg and
Create The Day of German Heroes as national holiday in its place.
The Repealing of the Tannenbergertag Yay
The Public Safety Act of 1922 Nay
Budget: Yay
Dietrich Jager USPD
It would seem that Herr Jager has not paid much attention to the reasoning behind either Tannenbergertag nor the creation of the public safety act.
The property ownership clause was put in place in order to keep those who need to defend their properties from wild animals and such a move by its very definition would have a negative effect on the ability for those who do not own their own property to own firearms. Such an effect being the point. My question to the honourable member is what he thinks those without property need such weaponry for that the police cannot and should not help them with. The only things I can think of are further chaos on the streets and potentially another Spartacist uprising type scenario which are most certainly not things the police cannot and should not help them with nor should we in this august chamber.
On the Tannenbergertag, the reasoning that battle was chosen over your examples of the Somme or Verdun was made clear during the debates over its coming into law. The main point was that though other battles showed the German skill at arms or the great sacrifice those who laid down their lives as much as Tannenberg ever did; Tannenberg was the battle which turned aside the Tsarist menace which you seem to have forgotten and prevented the invasion of the Reich by those vast hordes of the east. It also represents the solidarity that the German people showed to the refugees from the eastern territories as all of those in the country in those dark August days would attest. So, though you imply that the choice of battle was haphazard and political it was in fact chosen because of its strong symbolic resonance with all levels of German society.
Your proposal for another day of commemeration this German Heroes day seems like a waste of legislator's time given the existence of the Volkstrauerstag proposed by the KPD that was passed by the Reichstag last year as well as the Tannenbergertag. I really do not see the point for further struggle on the matter.
The property ownership clause was put in place in order to keep those who need to defend their properties from wild animals and such a move by its very definition would have a negative effect on the ability for those who do not own their own property to own firearms. Such an effect being the point. My question to the honourable member is what he thinks those without property need such weaponry for that the police cannot and should not help them with. The only things I can think of are further chaos on the streets and potentially another Spartacist uprising type scenario which are most certainly not things the police cannot and should not help them with nor should we in this august chamber.
On the Tannenbergertag, the reasoning that battle was chosen over your examples of the Somme or Verdun was made clear during the debates over its coming into law. The main point was that though other battles showed the German skill at arms or the great sacrifice those who laid down their lives as much as Tannenberg ever did; Tannenberg was the battle which turned aside the Tsarist menace which you seem to have forgotten and prevented the invasion of the Reich by those vast hordes of the east. It also represents the solidarity that the German people showed to the refugees from the eastern territories as all of those in the country in those dark August days would attest. So, though you imply that the choice of battle was haphazard and political it was in fact chosen because of its strong symbolic resonance with all levels of German society.
Your proposal for another day of commemeration this German Heroes day seems like a waste of legislator's time given the existence of the Volkstrauerstag proposed by the KPD that was passed by the Reichstag last year as well as the Tannenbergertag. I really do not see the point for further struggle on the matter.
"Tannenberg was the battle which turned aside the Tsarist menace which you seem to have forgotten and prevented the invasion of the Reich by those vast hordes of the east."
Surely you dont see the problem with this part of your statement and how it could be interpreted as using soldiers as pawns for you Hate for Bolscheviks ? i dont like them either but im above using Our Dead soldiers for purpose of spitting upon reds.
The property ownership clause was put in place in order to keep those who need to defend their properties from wild animals and such a move by its very definition would have a negative effect on the ability for those who do not own their own property to own firearms.
Then Every property should be examined and only if there exists reasonable belief of danger only then it could be granted the right to use weapons. This way it wont allowed for example for people with Property in cities to use weapons when there is no need for it.
Surely you dont see the problem with this part of your statement and how it could be interpreted as using soldiers as pawns for you Hate for Bolscheviks ? i dont like them either but im above using Our Dead soldiers for purpose of spitting upon reds.
The property ownership clause was put in place in order to keep those who need to defend their properties from wild animals and such a move by its very definition would have a negative effect on the ability for those who do not own their own property to own firearms.
Then Every property should be examined and only if there exists reasonable belief of danger only then it could be granted the right to use weapons. This way it wont allowed for example for people with Property in cities to use weapons when there is no need for it.
Private Letter to Sir Gustav von Kahr, Minister-President of Bavaria from former Crown Prince Wilhelm.
I have noted your brave efforts in protecting German and Bavarian customs and traditions from the wave of Internationalism and Pacifism that is being preached by radicals in the German society. I will say that I am pleased to know that there will always be a stronghold of true Germans in my homeland. During the Weltkrieg I and Crown Prince Rupprecht fought together on the western front, and I learned to admire his competence and spirit. Without a doubt his father, may he rest in peace, has a fine and well-deserved successor.
But just like the German monarchy is being denied by this Republic, so is the Bavarian monarchy also being rejected and thrown away by radicals. The German Reich brought growing prosperity and peace for 45 years, before the catastrophe that was the Weltkrieg. But as a good and honest man like you would know, my father was not to blame for the Weltkrieg and neither was Crown Prince Rupprecht's father. The German monarchies have been unjustly punished for something that they were not to blame for, and that is just one of the many injustices that should be rectified.
I hope to return to my fatherland one day, but I would not wish to disturb the precarious situation in Germany in any way that would provoke instability, violence, or renewed conflict with the victors. But on the fortunate day that I may return, I hope to see the Kingdom of Bavaria restored in all its glory as an integral part of Germany.
With the highest regards,
Frederick Wilhelm
I have noted your brave efforts in protecting German and Bavarian customs and traditions from the wave of Internationalism and Pacifism that is being preached by radicals in the German society. I will say that I am pleased to know that there will always be a stronghold of true Germans in my homeland. During the Weltkrieg I and Crown Prince Rupprecht fought together on the western front, and I learned to admire his competence and spirit. Without a doubt his father, may he rest in peace, has a fine and well-deserved successor.
But just like the German monarchy is being denied by this Republic, so is the Bavarian monarchy also being rejected and thrown away by radicals. The German Reich brought growing prosperity and peace for 45 years, before the catastrophe that was the Weltkrieg. But as a good and honest man like you would know, my father was not to blame for the Weltkrieg and neither was Crown Prince Rupprecht's father. The German monarchies have been unjustly punished for something that they were not to blame for, and that is just one of the many injustices that should be rectified.
I hope to return to my fatherland one day, but I would not wish to disturb the precarious situation in Germany in any way that would provoke instability, violence, or renewed conflict with the victors. But on the fortunate day that I may return, I hope to see the Kingdom of Bavaria restored in all its glory as an integral part of Germany.
With the highest regards,
Frederick Wilhelm
Not at all. The Bolsheviks were a minor group of exiles nowhere near power in their home country at the time of the battle. If it shows what you call my hate towards anyone it would be the backwards, decayéd Tsarist system. Though I would not say it is intended as a day of hate at all.
Perhaps in an ideal world such a thing could be done. However we live in a non ideal one, Herr Jager with budgets and courts and the like. A simpler blanket law should be more effective than a more nuanced law which can be picked apart in the courts in these straitened budget circumstances.
Disgusted due to the sick lack of respect of the soldiers from many people in the Reichstag, Felix Graf von Bothmer abstains from all other votes.
((Hey guys. Truly sorry for not being able to update in a timely fashion as some medical problems have befallen me. Consider this post to be the reserve for the political overview. This should be filled in today or tomorrow hopefully. Because of said medical problems not allowing me to yell at you guys earlier, I'm granting clemency by saying all ic actions and orders up to this post is valid. That means you, procrastinating budget-writers. Be thankful. As for the overviews themselves, they should be up today or tomorrow, friday at the latest. Thank you all for the understanding. ))