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Name: Paullus Herminius Scaevola
Date of Birth: a.d. Prid. Non. Iun., P. Servilio Vatia Isaurico et Ap. Claudio Pulcher consulibus (June 4, 79 BC)
Position: Senator
Faction: Unaffiliated
Biography: Born to a patrician family historically of modest means (and relative obscurity; the gens Herminia had not achieved the consulship in four hundred years), Paullus Herminius’s father, Aemillus Herminius Naso, had gotten enough money through real estate speculation to meet the property requirements for the Senate, which he gave to his son prior to render him eligible to maintain senatorial rank once he began his political career.

Paullus Herminius, upon the completion of his ten-year term of military service, and the receipt from his father of the necessary money, was elected Quaestor in the year of Sulpicius and Claudius Marcellus (that is, 51 BC). This meant, naturally, that he was elected quaestor in his year. He was known for his tireless work supervising accounts in Rome honestly, and at the end of his term was appointed to the Senate. While not exactly a new man, the previous obscurity of his family makes him close enough in practice. He is largely motivated by the old Roman ideal of piety, at least in theory.

He is married to Manlia Atella, who has borne him Paullus Herminius Cicurinus, Cornelius Herminius Macer, the twins Paulla Prima and Paulla Secunda, and Paulla Tertia.
 
Conscript fathers,

I admit I am young and untested. I admit that my family has not seen the insides of a Senate chamber for four hundred years. But let this obscure former quaestor talk a little among you about this matter.

Now it is evident that Gaius Julius Caesar should, ceteris paribus, be held accountable for his misdeeds. Were the circumstances otherwise, I would be the first among you, conscript fathers, to vote for this motion.

However these are not normal times. What are the consequences if we approve of this senatus consultum? Do you really think Caesar will simply disband his legions, and don his toga, and walk here like he were the pinnacle of piety? I wish it were so, but he will not. More likely, he will march his men past the Rubicon, swords at their sides, and for our actions subvert the Republic. For this reason, the farther Caesar is from Rome, the better things will be for the Republic. Let him freeze in some barbarian hovel, while honest men look to the public weal. Or failing that, give him a triumph, for peace's sake, and then send him to be buggered by some barbarian king.

For this reason, I, Paullus Herminius Scaevola, vote against this motion. Not because I do not want Caesar to eventually be held accountable, but out of due prudence.
 
I, Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis, I support the motion, because we need to protect the Republic against those who seek to destroy it.
 
I, Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus, give forth my opinion on this matter. It is my belief that to preserve peace and stability and consequently the Republic that we must allow Gaius Julius Caesar to run for the position of Consul in absentia, which would safeguard him when he enters Rome, in return for handing over his legions and governorship. Many of my colleagues will disagree with this, many may even shout me down, but I believe this is the course we must take.
 
Maxwell500 said:
I, Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus, give forth my opinion on this matter. It is my belief that to preserve peace and stability and consequently the Republic that we must allow Gaius Julius Caesar to run for the position of Consul in absentia, which would safeguard him when he enters Rome, in return for handing over his legions and governorship. Many of my colleagues will disagree with this, many may even shout me down, but I believe this is the course we must take.
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Visious Pilat nods his head...

"I am in agreement with Gnaeus Magnus."
 
A letter to the Senate of Rome from Hadrianus Marius, commander of the Legio VII Claudia

Dear Noble Men of the Senate, I offer you to ring back Julius Caesar without an Army loyal to him behind him, so he can represent the people of Rome once more, on one condition, all charges are dropped, you have 2 weeks ((5 days IG)) to decide.

Regards, Hadrianus Marius.
 
It is a sunny day in a Province as it usually is here. Climate is warm in southern Gaul just like it is in Rome thanks to the Mediterranean sea. Today is the last day of Lucius Julius-es command of the legions in Narbonensis. After many years of service under his cousin Gaius it was time for him to return to Rome. Position of legate earned him much prestige and honor but now is the time to return to politics and to serve Roman people and its senate as a senator.
 
Status Quo, Turn 2, Late 704 AUC ​



A very close defeat of a motion, originating from the Optimates, that would order Caesar to return to Rome with neither immunity nor Legions to protect him set the tone for the discontent brewing in the Senate. While there certainly was a solid section of the Senate which was staunchly anti-Caesarian, many of the moderates were less dedicated to holding Caesar to account for his alleged crimes. Just under one hundred Senators, whom were needed to make the passing majority for the motion, abstained from voting. The motion did succeed, however, in effectively splitting the Senate almost equally between the Optimates and the Populares. Outright insults between the two sides became all the more common - the popular refrain "Who was your father?"[1] directed towards the Plebeian Senators by the generally aristocratic Optimates began to resurface, thrown not only at Populares but also occasionally at moderates who questioned the rashness of some of the suggested actions against Caesar.

The ability of the Caesarians to prevent the passage of this motion in early 50BC was surprising to many of the Optimates, whom assumed that they, as the pro-Senate faction, would not only have voting control of the Senate but also have enough clout to convince the moderates to vote in their favour. This was due in part to both the reluctance of the moderate Senators to condemn Caesar openly, but also due to the shrewd tactics of the Populares. One of the current consuls, Lucius Aemilius Lepidus Paullus, was already in Caesar's pocket thanks to a hefty bribe, and his influence led to the turning of many moderates against anti-Caesarian motions. This was suspected to increase in the later half of the Consular year, as both Marcus Antonius and Caesar's cousin, Lucius Julius Caesar, would return from Gaul to Rome - presumably to hound the less enthusiastic Caesarians into openly opposing the efforts of Scipio and Cato.

Luckily for the Optimates, his co-Consul, Gaius Claudius Marcellus Minor was an outspoken opponent of Caesar. Caesar had attempted to have Marcellus divorce his wife Octavia, Caesar's great-niece, so that she could marry Pompey instead, and this naturally lead to bad blood between the two men. This not only backfired when Pompey married a different woman instead, but also when Pompey drifted away from Caesar and towards the Optimates - leaving both influence over a Consul and the most famous man in Rome in the hands of Caesar's opponents. Pompey nonetheless supported Caesar's right to stand for Consulship, yet still openly called for him to stand down his Legions. As a result, the Populares could not boast control over the Senate and Consulship just yet.

It was not all doom and gloom for the Republic, however. Beyond the internal musings of the Senate, Rome expanded it's influence over yet another territory - Judea. Unlike Gaul this was not an invasion for the sake of Roman glory or for personal adventurism (at least not explicitly), but the result of many years of Romanisation of the region and the support of Hycanus II's claim on the Kingdom of Judea. As with most provinces annexed this way, the local populace of Judea hardly noticed that they had been added to the Republic's territory, considering the presence of Legions since 63BC. Hycanus II had control of Judea at the behest of the Romans as a puppet, but it remained to be seen if he would be allowed the title of Rex by the Senate.

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[1] According to Plutarch, a famous retort to this insult was by Cicero himself, whom at the time had not a single Consul in his family history, nor any famous ancestors to speak of, like his opponents had. After being heckled with this insult by an affluent Patrician, he responded, "Your mother has made the answer to such a question in your case more difficult."



Bills are due in on Wednesday at 6pm GMT.

Those who wish to stand for Consulship, Plebeian Tribune, and other Annual offices should declare so this turn. This who wish to stand in absentia (hint hint, Caesar) will require the Senate to pass a separate Motion to allow this.
 
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I, Cornelius Marcii f. Dadarius Arvina, stand for the position of Plebeian Tribute.
 
A letter to the Senate from Hadrianus Marius is read aloud in the Senate
The situation in Illyria is tender, it is a thin area of land that connects Italia and Grecia is under threat from the Dacian Tribes, whom grow bolder-bythe-day, and I request that I am allowed to conduct a military excursion into Ponnonia, to pacify said tribes by diplomacy or via conflict, however if these tribes chose to attack with their hoards, The land connection between two of the most important areas of the empire; and the loss of this connection would be difficult to re-establish. Therefore I compel the senate to grant me the power to engage this barbarians with the Legio VII Claudia, and further the empires might. And Julius Caesar has already left, with a legion or not, I do not know, however my offer is now not available.

Signed, Hadrianus Marius Commander of the Legio VII Claudia. Roma Invicta.
 
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Name: Lucius Horatius Scaevola
Date of Birth: Sometime 674 AUC
Position: Military
Faction: Populares
Bio: The son of a Roman senator, Lucius does not desire outright political power, and is instead fascinated with the army, where he is now attempting to use his father's connections to gain a command. Despite this, he is a strong supporter of Caesar, having immersed himself in readings of Caesar's deeds.
 
Fellow Romans and noble senators today I present to you a motion to enable proconsul Gaius Julius Caesar nomination for consul in absentia.

Ask yourself why should we let someone run for office while he is in office?

Well these are special circumstances. Gaius Julius Caesar is exceptional man, exceptional governor and exceptional general. During his governorship he led Rome to many victories, expanded Roman territories, traveled to the edge of the world, and fought in darkest forests. And now thanks to him Rome is stronger and greater than ever before.

But enemies of Rome are not lying still, even now they are scheming and plotting to rob Rome of its wealth, glory and power. Foul Germani could invade Gaul any day now, and evil Britons are probably scheming to incite rebellion in Gaul. Who can keep us safe from these treacherous barbarians?

Gaius Julius Caesar of course. His experience and his tactical skills will bring these barbarians to their knees and keep the republic safe. So please vote for this law for safety and greatness of Rome!


Lucius Julius Caesar
 
Motion deadline extended to Friday 6PM.
 
I motion that Hycanus II of Judea be granted the title of Rex. A loyal servant of Rome should be rewarded, and there is nothing that I can see to deny him this title to act in Rome's best interests in the region.

So says I, Cornelius Marcii f. Dadarius Arvina, Senator of Rome.
 
I,Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis stand for Consul. I also stand against any motion or other initiative to enable Gaius Julius Caeser to run in absentia
 
I move that the position of Quaestor not be subject to the restrictions of the law of Sulla when it comes to re-election. The constant turnover in quaestors means that the finances of Rome are constantly in churning, leaving the whole institution ripe for mismanagement. Removing the restrictions of the Laws of Sulla would provide the necessary continuity to stop this.

-Paullus Herminius Scaevola
 
aussieboy said:
I move that the position of Quaestor not be subject to the restrictions of the law of Sulla when it comes to re-election. The constant turnover in quaestors means that the finances of Rome are constantly in churning, leaving the whole institution ripe for mismanagement. Removing the restrictions of the Laws of Sulla would provide the necessary continuity to stop this.

-Paullus Herminius Scaevola
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The laws of Sulla are meant to prevent corruption and stagnation in Rome and her institutions. I will oppose removing Sulla's laws.
 
Status Quo, Voting, Late 704 AUC​

Members of the Senate are to vote on the following:

Motion to Grant Hadrianus Marius Permission to Invade Dacia.
Motion to Enable Gaius Julius Caesar to Stand for Consul In Absentia.
Motion to Grant the title of Rex Judaeorum to Hycanus II of Judea.
Motion that the Laws of Sulla do not Apply to the Office of Quaestor.

Indicate that you are for, against, or abstain from a motion. A simple majority is required for a motion to pass.


Elections:

Consular Election:

Marcus Porcius Cato Uticensis
Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus
Gaius Julius Caesar

Each member of the Senate will submit two candidates they wish to elect as Consul. The Candidates with the highest number of votes in Senate will be Consul. Bold your vote to make it official. Caesar requires the motion allowing him to stand in absentia to pass, should he win.

Proconsular Election

Metellus Scipio for Proconsulship of Syria.

Members of the Senate vote. Simple majority required.

Plebeian Tribune

Marcus Antonius
Cornelius Marcii f. Dadarius Arvina

All players vote. Most votes win.


Deadline for voting is Tuesday 29th, 6pm GMT.
 
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