((On a completely unrelated matter, don't you think the Vale talking about neutrality all the time is a bit well unmedieval they are effectively breaking their oath of fealty to their liege (whomever he may be) and declaring independence in everything but name. Also isn't it said in the books somewhere that house Royce are Robb's closest kin through his father's side and I'm pretty positive that Littlefinger says that house Royce and many other lords of the Vale are "almost in open rebellion due to Lysa's failure to support Robb. Just my 2 cents, feel free to utterly ignore it :happy: ))