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This little island in the western sea of Dorne is actually a prison for Dorne's vilest criminals. My suggestion is that this would be better represented as a military command instead of a feudal lordship. Perhaps with a custom title of 'Warden' or something along those lines for the holder.
 
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It should also be put under the de jure area that the Martells/Sunspear control instead of the Tor to represent it like Moat Cailin is in The North.
 
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blackninja9939 said:
It isn't sworn to the Tor, it is sworn directly to dorne
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Yeah, but sooner-rather-than-later, there's a Martell who doesn't have the stewardship to hold everything, grants Ghaston Grey to someone, and transfers control to The Tor. Sometimes they even just go ahead and grant it the duke there when they inevitably ask.
 
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blackninja9939 said:
It is de jure sworn to dorne as well
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blackninja9939 said:
Nothing off the top of my head I'm afraid
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Will you be thinking about putting Almaron's revised borders submod into the base mod? I personally think that whilst the original set up for map was fine, based on then knowledge, it does seem to be out of date with all of the new stuff that we have access to.
 
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TMSaxon said:
Will you be thinking about putting Almaron's revised borders submod into the base mod? I personally think that whilst the original set up for map was fine, based on then knowledge, it does seem to be out of date with all of the new stuff that we have access to.
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That is an awesome idea, I personally love the way he re-did the borders based of lore sources such as A World of Ice and Fire and the book supplied maps of regions. However, his decision to make Dragonstone and Summerhall king-tier ranks really took me off his project, I'm fine with them being sworn directly to King's Landing as duke tiers. The borders however, yes please!
 
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TMSaxon said:
Will you be thinking about putting Almaron's revised borders submod into the base mod? I personally think that whilst the original set up for map was fine, based on then knowledge, it does seem to be out of date with all of the new stuff that we have access to.
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No plans for that
 
SBerger said:
That is an awesome idea, I personally love the way he re-did the borders based of lore sources such as A World of Ice and Fire and the book supplied maps of regions. However, his decision to make Dragonstone and Summerhall king-tier ranks really took me off his project, I'm fine with them being sworn directly to King's Landing as duke tiers. The borders however, yes please!
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Summerhall is king tier? Playing as Aegon in the War of Conquest I took Blackheart and constructed Summerhall right away, but I haven't seen any king tier title. Summerhall for me is just a county that became part of the High Lordship of King's Landing as normal, and there is an option to form the titular High Lordship of Summerfield which is de jure part of the Stormlands. Not seen any king level titles yet. Do i need to give it away to someone for that or what?

As for Dragonstone, I'd prefer that to be duke tier as well. On the one hand I like that the heir apparent gets a rank on par with lords paramount, but I don't really like how it still ends up taking away my direct lordship over House Velaryon on Driftmark and Celtigar on Claw Isle. I want to give my heir his dues while keeping my oldest vassals and not pissing anyone off dammit.
 
Kripox said:
Summerhall is king tier? Playing as Aegon in the War of Conquest I took Blackheart and constructed Summerhall right away, but I haven't seen any king tier title. Summerhall for me is just a county that became part of the High Lordship of King's Landing as normal, and there is an option to form the titular High Lordship of Summerfield which is de jure part of the Stormlands. Not seen any king level titles yet. Do i need to give it away to someone for that or what?

As for Dragonstone, I'd prefer that to be duke tier as well. On the one hand I like that the heir apparent gets a rank on par with lords paramount, but I don't really like how it still ends up taking away my direct lordship over House Velaryon on Driftmark and Celtigar on Claw Isle. I want to give my heir his dues while keeping my oldest vassals and not pissing anyone off dammit.
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I think the King tier Summerhall title is only creatable by whomever holds it/exists in the bookmarks where Summerhall is held, but I'm not sure because I haven't touched the updated borders submod since he massively overhauled it because it's having a lot of conflicts with congenital overhaul.

I'm also pretty sure he made the Kingdom title of Dragonstone with Stannis in mind so that all of those stormlands lords aren't independent in his war, but he didn't fully think through the repercussions for earlier bookmarks.
 
It seems like even though Ghaston Grey is now a military command I've never actually witnessed the ruler of Dorne giving the island to anyone on there own. I'm not sure if there needs to be some sort of trigger for the AI the decide to give that title away (since I've seen the ruler of Winterfell give out Moat Cailin numerous times) but currently it doesn't seem to be happening at all or at least not very often.
 
Jaredonian said:
It seems like even though Ghaston Grey is now a military command I've never actually witnessed the ruler of Dorne giving the island to anyone on there own. I'm not sure if there needs to be some sort of trigger for the AI the decide to give that title away (since I've seen the ruler of Winterfell give out Moat Cailin numerous times) but currently it doesn't seem to be happening at all or at least not very often.
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The ai does not give out ghaston grey because literally nobody would want to rule that hunk of junk, it is not like moat cailin where it serves some tactical purpose. It is just some crappy little rock off Dorne lol
 
TMSaxon said:
Will you be thinking about putting Almaron's revised borders submod into the base mod? I personally think that whilst the original set up for map was fine, based on then knowledge, it does seem to be out of date with all of the new stuff that we have access to.
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+1
 
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