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TheArchduke said:
ICQ #? Medicine Man

Bugger. I'll be home in four hours and I'll post my number then.

EDIT: ICQ # 171237816
 
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A small change request

I'd just like to request a small change in the file major_iberia.txt. Is it possible that we could extend the lifespan of the Al-Andalus unification events as follows? The change would mostly be for the AI, which sometimes has trouble lacing its shoes, the human player has plenty of time already. Unless there are more events pending from Forzaa, there is really nothing that requires the following events to be restricted to the first 106 years of game time.

For ease of use, here are my proposed changes:

Code:
event = {
	id = 200529
	trigger = { 
		flag = Conquest_cntd 
		owned = { province = 431 data = -1 }
		owned = { province = 432 data = -1 }
		owned = { province = 433 data = -1 }
		atwar = no
		NOT = { 
			OR = { # none of the three may be alive
				exists = PRT
				exists = ASU
				exists = LEO
				}
			}
		NOT = { event = 103 } # Edict of Tolerance
		}
	random = no
	country = GRA
	name = "Al-Andalus is united"
	desc = "With the complete eradication of the Christian kingdoms in the north, noone can challenge our Lordship over Al-Andalus"
	date = { year = 1419 }			
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { year = 1700 } 

	action_a = { # Great
		name = "We are truly the masters of Al-Andalus"
		command = { type = addcore which = 431 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 432 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 433 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = VP value = 100 }
		}
}
event = {
	id = 200530
	trigger = { 
		NOT = { 
			OR = {
				flag = Conquest_cntd
				event = 200529 
				}
			}
		atwar = no
		owned = { province = 431 data = -1 }
		owned = { province = 432 data = -1 }
		owned = { province = 433 data = -1 }
		NOT = { 
			OR = { # none of the three may be alive
				exists = PRT
				exists = ASU
				exists = LEO
				}
			}
		NOT = { event = 103 } # Edict of Tolerance
		}
	random = no
	country = GRA
	name = "Al-Andalus is united"
	desc = "With the complete eradication of the Christian kingdoms in the north, noone can challenge our Lordship over Al-Andalus"
	date = { year = 1419 }			
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { year = 1700 } 

	action_a = { # Great
		name = "We are truly the masters of Al-Andalus"
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = VP value = 250 }
		}
}

Life range extended to 1700, both events are inaccessable after the Edict of Tolerance fires.

What do you think?
 
TheArchduke said:
Sorry, on my way..

Edit: Damn they were lost on my old cpu it seems, didn´t include them, plz resend.

luckily, I had them on my old PC this time :D (whereas my NEW PC is in repair AGAIN :( )
will send them your way asap

and MM: I think you missed the fact that if they don't unite Al-Andalus quick enough, this 'automatically' causes a "lesser" version to happen.. though I might have forgottn to include/rewrite/code that, it certainly was planned.
 
Forza: Ahh... that explains that then. My next question would be: Is the unification of Al-Andalus event version 2 in at the moment. If not, what shall we do about it? One of us could code it up or we could edit the existing events... I'm not sure what the grand plan is here. Is there some reason for having the events split into early and late iterations?
 
Short message to the powers that be:

I wanted to add a quick update on what I'm currently doing with the Granadaen events. Right now, I'm pushing for a version that is complete enough for a full release -- events to handle the various dynastic successions (Nasrid, Sa'did, Alawi, Malwas; Granadaen and Moroccan), events to wake up dormant leaders in the event files, etc.

I'll probably only take 2-3 days more to wrap things up. There is only one problem really -- I still haven't had much chance to get things sync'ed up with Forza. At the moment, I have no idea what is in his events, what areas he's covered for Granada, or even what event ID #s he's used. If you could give me any idea of what's in there, or better yet upload it, it could really save me some effort, Archduke.

The only other thing is the small cosmetic problem with the monarchs.gra and leaders.gra files I sent Archduke. I mention the specifics in the 'Aberration May 23rd' thread but the gyst is that the header on both files lists the wrong author (should be Daniel Madryga, Medicine Man). I'm not going bonkers or anything but I would like to get credit for my own work. Sorry for all the fuss. :p

Edit: Don't worry about the leader and monarch files. I wanted to make a few changes to them anyhow, so I'll just make the corrections and send the updated files to AD in a few days along with the events.
 
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Got no e-mail by Forzaa.
 
Ok. I just threw a massive e-mail at you, Archduke. If worse comes to worse, I just sent you everything we should need for Granada (events, leaders, monarchs, ai-files, the works).

It'll probably take you awhile to review all of that.
 
Do that.:)
 
A-w-e-s-o-m-e.:)
 
Just one more

Late delivery.

After some reviewing, I came to the conclusion that the human player stands to gain quite a bit more from the Sa'did path than from the Yahwar path. With that in mind, I added one more reformation event to Hishram al-Hakam's reign -- something I was thinking of doing in the first place, but just run out of steam before reaching.

Code:
event = {
	id = 200592
	trigger = {
		monarch = 32370 # Hishram al-Hakam
	}
	random = no
	country = GRA
	name = "The Legal Reforms of Sultan Hishram"
	desc = "A key component in the evolution of the Granadaen Sultanate was the transformation of its laws from a loose patchwork of tribal and feudal customs to a unified code of statehood. During the 16th century, Sultan Hishram laboured long and hard to abolish many of the antiquated and absurd practices of the disparate groups in al-Andalus -- often with considerable resistance from his subjects -- while working to enact more progressive laws of territory and ownership. Given the enormity of this task, it is not surprising that his efforts met with mixed results -- but Hishram's reforms did in part pave the way for Granada's constituitional reforms during the Revolutionary period."

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1585 }
	offset = 350
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1591 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Tighten the Legal Code"
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -1 }
		command = { type = infra value = 500 }
		command = { type = gainbuilding which = -2 value = courthouse }
		command = { type = gainbuilding which = -1 value = courthouse }
		command = { type = gainbuilding which = -1 value = courthouse }
		command = { type = gainbuilding which = -1 value = courthouse }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Enact reforms to territory and property ownership"
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = infra value = 1500 }
		command = { type = trade value = 500 }
		command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
	}
}

I'll leave this for you to give a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" to Archduke. If you like it, it should be alright to just cut and paste it in -- its not tested, but looks OK to me.

Cheers.
 
In.
 
TheArchduke said:
Got no e-mail by Forzaa.
hmm.. you're not the first one complaining that my mail is not arriving.. am looking into the problem, in the meantime, I'll resend it...


On a side note.. suddenly got a big heap of work on hands, so the coding is somewhat on and off, with little systematic progress made :(
 
judging from my game currently.. my changes were not included :s (still the old "help for Iberia" sequence)

I'll no longer trust email.. and upload them instead....



found here (rar file, two files with events)
 
We have another Gra event file from MM and I especially dislike the two: Be Spain events in your file:


"The Splendour of Granada"

"the move to Madrid"

Sorry. But I don´t like them.
 
TheArchduke said:
We have another Gra event file from MM and I especially dislike the two: Be Spain events in your file:


"The Splendour of Granada"

"the move to Madrid"

Sorry. But I don´t like them.

oh that's fine, but please cut out that "wrong" "help for Iberians" sequence - it's frustrating if you're Eire and select to send help yet nothing happens (since the others already sent help)
Whether or not you replace it with the new one is your decision :)
 
Heh, I liked them, but a catholic Granada with capital in Madrid feels too much like "Spain", you know.:)

Apart from that I am really, really looking forward to any AAR that you´re going to do.:D

I will check yours and MM´s events and put them in one file.
 
MM, I love Granada but any way to nerf them a bit at the start? Maybe Andalusia as a vassal and some troubles. Any easy ideas, don´t want to destroy your nice work on them, really.:)
 
I was concerned from the outset that Granada may be a little bit strong in 1419 so I built some speed bumps into her event file. Therefore, the easiest fix I can think of is to make the "Age of Feuds and Chicanery" event a bit more nasty -- twice as much revolt risk, for instance.

If that isn't enough, I'd suggest making a two-province Aragon (Aragon, Gerona) that is a vassal of Granada but an ally of Navarre. Making a vassal is more work however, so I advise trying the event-based approach for now.

Personally, I don't see what we're worrying about. It doesn't mean much that Granada is easy in SP and I suspect that human players in Gaul will collaborate against her in MP. If there is only a single human player in Gaul, he will probably become France version II anyhow -- so no worries.

Concerning the BB changes in epo_ibe.txt:

I'm not sure I agree with the idea of giving Granada BB for making war on the Iberian Christians, as no other nation of any religion is penalized for doing the same thing -- as they are all very likely to do in most games.

If the BB is to stay in, I would like to make a few suggestions. The options of event 200510 are all relatively balanced vis-a-vis one another without the badboy, so I think that option A and B should both add only 5 BB. There are other penalties for hardcore jihadists. Option C should not subtract 10 BB -- the whole event will trigger Feb 1 1419 in most games, at the latest, so it is meaningless to subtract BB. Besides which, not getting +5 BB is reward enough without widening the delta further.

If you agree with any or all of these suggestions, I'll see that they are edited in shortly. Cheers.
 
I suggest your Aragon/Gerona suggestion, it gives extra possible BB and increased weakness without any tweaking of events.. possibly making two one-provincers instead of one two provincer though.
 
Well... the tweaking of events is really far easier, all told. But I guess it ultimately isn't my decision.