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Eugenius V (The Great) (1456-1490) Part II
Eugenius V (The Great) (1456-1490)
Part II

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The Punishment of Korah and the Stoning of Moses and Aaron (Sistine Chapel) by Sandro Botticelli
Moses and Aaron fled to the tabernacle of the covenant. And when the were gone into it, the cloud covered it, and the glory of the Lord appeared. And the Lord said to Moses: "Get you out from the midst of this multitude, this moment will I destroy them." And as they were lying on the ground, Moses said to Aaron: "Take the censer, and putting fire in it from the altar, put incense upon it, and go quickly to the people to pray for them: for already wrath is gone out from the Lord, and the plague rageth." When Aaron had done this, and had run to the midst of the multitude which the burning fire was now destroying, he offered the incense: And standing between the dead and the living, he prayed for the people, and the plague ceased. And the number of them that were slain was fourteen thousand and seven hundred men, besides them that had perished in the sedition of Core. - Numbers 16:43-49



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Neapolitan rebels have risen up, however our army is ready and quickly clear the city.

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With that out of the way, we need to address Siena’s actions. Their control over Tuscany is too much to stomach.

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And in under a month, their army is gone and they are on the way to surrendering.

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General Barrilla is also getting up there in age, and the army has expanded so much that a third general (besides the commander of the Swiss Guards, who ceremonially holds the rank of general too) would come in handy. One of our colonels, Vittorio Castiglione, shows promise as an aggressive leader. How very apt, given his name.

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Well this is not good, the French now have a toehold this side of the Alps, and they have also recently signed an alliance with Genoa. We must continue to deny them access so they cannot press their claims to the Neapolitan throne.

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His Holiness has decided that a shake-up is necessary as we are becoming spread too thin. We are ordered to focus on consolidating our position in Europe.


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The Bolognese have caught Cardinal d’Ippolito, the Bishop of Ferrara, in flagrante with one of his courtiers. He really should not have gloated about winning that card game against the Bishop of Bologna. [A]

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Poor Florence, they may have rivaled us once upon a time, but they’ve had a rough history of late.

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One could call this disturbing, but there is a chance that this can be a decent opportunity…

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Well, that’s one way to give charity to the Florentines whose city we just occupied and sacked -fund all their starving artists.

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And with Siena’s fall, that’s the war – not even eleven months. We’re not demanding any territory, just that Florence be released again. Hopefully their new government submits to our dominion.

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And with the Sienese war reparations, we revamp the port of Naples and bring it back to its pre-conquest capacity.


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And our fears have unfortunately come true – the French navy has managed to gain local control over the seas around Southern Italy and have landed an invasion force.


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All of this though is a future matter. In the present, we must face the reality that the Brothers of St. Mary, both Teutonic and Livonian chapters, are not long for this world if we do nothing. While we acknowledge and understand the animosity of the Poles and Lithuanians towards them, Moscow must not be allowed to bring its defiance of the Council of Florence into the Baltics and its large portions of Church-held lands. As they only got into this situation in the first place due to their sheer incompetence, arrogance, and aggressiveness, it is high time that we rescue them, by yanking short the long leash we have permitted them to enjoy to date.


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News from Asia – the Timurid Empire continues its wholesale collapse, and it seems the Ottomans are unlucky enough to be an ally of one of the factions while their armies are occupied in Hungary. We may be able to take advantage of this situation – not directly against the Ottomans mind you, suicide is a sin and all that, but maybe them being otherwise occupied could prevent a massive power vacuum were we to move against the Mamluks in Egypt.

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Unfortunately, the Bohemians and their soon-to-be Hungarian subjects are not going to be able to take advantage of this themselves as the Savoyards have brought them in against the Burgundians.

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And we decide to further develop our iron resources so we do not have to depend on any of our future targets.

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One of our attaches to the Knights has distinguished himself by somehow managing to follow his oaths and all our instructions and refrain from deflowering all of the local women. This achievement has been spoken of with awe and wonder across the Mediterranean. We’re just going to focus on the positives of this situation and not contemplate the larger issue, alright?


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And construction of the Sistine Chapel has proceeded to the point where we can finally hire an artist to do the wall decorations. Fortunately our patronage of the Florentines has given us a number of options.

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We could hire Sandro Botticelli…

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Or Domenico Ghirlandaio…

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Or Pietro Perugino…

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Or we could just hire all of the above and a few other artists and get it done as quick as possible, and that’s what we’re going to do.

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For once we have a fuller treasury, and our government is a bit overstretched with trying to manage a campaign on the other side of the Continent, so we’ll actually grant a tax break.


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And another thing we can do with the treasury is finally start dealing with the poor state of clerical education in the Church. This has been an open sore for some time now, but reports coming back from our armies in the recently Christianized lands of the Baltics have made abundantly clear just how bad the problem is. Many of our priests do not know how to read and write, and some are even preaching absolutely horrific heresies like each person of the Trinity being a different god, the Blessed Mother and some collection of saints or local notables also being divine, and all matter of sorceries and superstitions clearly inherited from the pagans. Establishing a few seminaries and a pontifical college in Rome for missionaries will go part of the way towards fixing this mess.[C]

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And the castle at Dinaberg has fallen, giving us Latgale.


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The first of our new missionaries has been sent to Crete to finally convert the island. The Venetians owned this place for over two centuries and did not do it, so it falls to us. Typical.

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The Teutons and Livonians make a stand in Wenden – it isn’t going well for them.

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And King Ferrando has been deposed, with the new King Louis, having just reached his majority, being crowned King of both France and Naples. [E]

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The remnants of the Livonian army are cut down before their capital walls.

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And the Queen-regent of Hungary has had to surrender her son’s throne to the Bohemian Habsburgs. By a bit of diplomatic trickery, the Ottomans have been forced to acknowledge they are not actually at war with the Bohemian king, and have completely pulled out of Hungary. Serbia, Albania, and Bosnia are not long for the world, but this does at least preserve somewhat of a bulwark against the Ottomans.

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And a delegation of the Knights Hospitaller with the army in the north has vastly improved medical care for the men in the field. Good work all around. [F]


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The Livonian capital has fallen and the peasants of Estonia are revolting… and also rebelling.

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Riga falls less than a week later.

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Just in time too – the Muscovite campaign against Novgorod is reaching its conclusion – if we do not secure our position soon, they may try to grab land in the chaos.

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And the Archbishop of Ravenna is arguing about a disputed patch of church land with the local nobles. We looked into the matter and found that it really belongs to the Archdiocese of Rome and not either of them. Well done all.

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And the fortress of Marienburg, a shadow of its former self, has finally surrendered. At least it wasn’t as embarrassing for the Teutons this time as when it fell to the Poles a few years back. [G]

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And with that, the Hochmeister and the Prussian and Livonian Landmeisters of the Brotherhood of St. Mary have formally acknowledged that they hold their territories as Papal fiefs. We will soon negotiate their vassalages with them to make clear that they are autonomous military orders and expected to only contribute men, not money.

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We now find ourselves overlord of a wide-ranging network of vassals, some of which are not entirely enthusiastic about it. His Holiness though is insistent that we are now in an excellent position to begin consolidating them and centralizing the realm, all we have to do is spread some of our new-found largesse around.



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[A] The episcopal see in Bologna was not raised to its present status as an Archdiocese until 1582. Ironically enough, the far older Archdiocese of Ferrara (created somewhere around 430, raised to Archdiocesan status in 1735) was subordinated to Bologna’s ecclesiastical province in 1976, but the bishop there was allowed to keep the title for historical reasons.


I truly do not get what Paradox is doing here. On the one hand, yes, congratulations, they have clearly done their research and presented as options the historical painters of the wall frescos of the Sistine Chapel. However, they ALL worked on it, so why are you trying to make us pick just one? In any case, the missionary strength is the best one in my opinion if I truly want to go for a One Faith run.

[C] There is a popular perception of the Medieval/Renaissance Catholic Church as a highly centralized entity with its clergy displaying considerable learning, but also being “flexible” with theology when money is concerned, being highly corrupt, and being absolutely, positively allergic to allowing commoners to having education or knowledge of their own. Some of this is true, some of it is Protestant propaganda, and a fair amount is the unintentional “translation” if you will of the Church of the 19th and 20th Centuries back five hundred years. Paradox, for its part, swallows this view hook, line, and sinker (though not quite as totally in EUIV as it does in CKIII, mercifully) as we will see later. The actual reality of the 15th Century Church though is that things were a bit of a basket case, increasing in chaos the further away you got from Rome. Mostly this is due to two reasons:

The first being that while in Italy proper, the Vatican could potentially enforce proper theology and clerical behavior by showing up on one’s doorstep with the army, beyond the Alps, the local power structures that incorporated the local church were laws unto themselves. In particular, most episcopal offices were appointed by the sovereign lords of that state according to concordats negotiated with the Vatican, often on disadvantageous grounds for the latter. This meant that while simony is and has always been condemned as an extremely grave sin from the very beginning (see Acts, Chapter 8 for St. Peter’s denunciation of it), the Vatican was pretty much powerless to stop it in most cases as the offices were being bought from the rulers or local clergy that made the recommendation and the new office holders were therefore loyal to those persons (and yes, multiple popes and cardinals absolutely practiced a policy of “If you can’t beat them, join them!”). In extreme cases, some dioceses or ecclesial provinces were so detached from Vatican authority as to be de facto autocephalous (ironically mirroring many Protestant communions today). While Rome could and did regularly weigh in on matters happening throughout Europe, it required a fair amount of political capital being burnt usually to get the local clergy and secular authorities alike to even listen, much less agree. If Paradox wanted to make the game more realistic, it should make events like the “Demand that X country fire a heretic advisor” have a diplomatic mana cost behind them increasing in proportion to distance from Papal territory. It was not actually until the end of the Napoleonic Wars that the Vatican began to develop the near-universal authority it has today; mostly due to the destruction of the Ancién Regimes and the institution of religious freedom laws ironically enough. Even still, some artifacts of the past remain: Pope Leo XIV recently had to appoint a new bishop of St. Gallen following the terms of an 1845 concordat with the Swiss government, despite said bishop-elect having raised more than a few eyebrows in the Vatican on his views about female ordination.

This then leads into the second reason, which is an extreme lack of education among lower-order clergy of this period. Education in the age before the printing press was expensive, and when clerical offices are being bought and sold and some diocesan and parochial tithes are quite lucrative, proper training in theology can take a backseat to making some cash. There is also no requirement yet for every diocese to have or be affiliated with a seminary (that comes with the Council of Trent) so most don’t have any opportunities for formal schooling. Perhaps most pernicious of all though is that the system of informal education/apprenticeship that many places cobbled together of learning from more senior priests completely fell apart in the aftermath of the Black Death, as most of said learned priests were often the only thing approaching physicians in their communities, meaning they were all but wiped out by the plague. Your average parochial clergyman [D] in this time is barely literate, and many of them have truly appalling theological, philosophical, and scientific takes. Yes, the learned men in Rome and most European courts and universities are absolutely aware the Earth is round, and they’re probably even aware of how big it is based on Eratosthenes’s calculations, but the pastor of St. Glumsburg in the ass end of Pomerania is almost certainly teaching his flock that the earth is flat, the sun is a dragon, and the moon is a wheel of cheese it’s eating every day. For monastic and other regular clergy [D] who live in communities, the situation is a bit better as one has the benefit, usually, of a library, long periods of reflection, and a community of brothers that can teach, but even then, many monasteries of the period are way out of line in behavior and practice, resembling more modern college fraternity houses than anything poor St. Benedict would ever approve of. This means that doctrines like the granting of indulgences, the nature of the Trinity, the role of the Virgin Mary, the resurrection of the body, the Real Presence in the Blessed Sacrament, clerical celibacy, divorce, and countless others are being completely bastardized beyond all recognition "on the ground" despite the Vatican toeing a fairly hard line on them for several centuries prior. Even worse is that syncretism with the prior folk practices and religions of an area are so omnipresent that in many areas (Ireland, Germany, Scandinavia and the Baltics usually being the worst offenders), the inhabitants are only Catholic in the most superficial sense and otherwise qualify as Pagan. It’s a mess so horrifically bad as to make one almost feel sympathetic for Martin Luther…



Almost.

[D] (Up until apparently this April,) the Roman Catholic Church has never in its history given a darn about the the English-speaking world in considering how their terminology might be interpreted. One of the most magnificent examples of this callousness is in trying to describe a “normal” priest. One cannot, in fact, call them “regular clergy,” for that term is reserved for those “regulated” by a rule of life – that is the rules that monks, nuns, and other religious institutes must follow. Benedictines, Dominicans, and Franciscans are regular clergy, as an example. Likewise, one cannot describe them as “ordinary clergy” for that term too is reserved – namely to one who has executive power to enforce canon law (e.g. a bishop or a prelate). The proper term for Father Brown and Father Ted and every gentleman in between is “secular clergy” with “parochial clergy” being the proper term for one assigned to a parish.

[E] The rare regnal number fail from Paradox, we’re supposed to be on Louis XI or XII right now. Incidentally, he’s either Louis II or Louis IV of Sicily (Naples), depending on which line of succession claims to the Neapolitan throne you recognize (I did mention that it’s a mess right?).

[F] Yes, the religious denomination that runs a significant fraction of the world’s hospitals and medical clinics and maintains entire religious orders dedicated to healthcare is somehow spouting nonsense that would be awkward coming from the Christian Scientists. I refer the reader back to the first paragraph of [C].


[G] Although it may not have happened in this universe, the historical 1456 Siege of Marienburg/Malbork Castle is infamous for its absurd conclusion – finding out that the Teutonic Knights were a bit in arrears to the mercenaries they hired to supplement the garrison, King Casmir IV simply bought the castle off the mercenaries.
 
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Alright, new chapter, and I've gone back and added footnotes to several previous chapters. All chapters now begin with relevant scripture passages and accompanying period artwork - it wasn't right that a work about the Renaissance and Counter-Reformation Catholic Church should be missing so much of its essence and artistry.
 
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Neapolitan rebels have risen up, however our army is ready and quickly clear the city.
As annoying as it would be, the fort and city should really be in rebel hands. It might counteract some of EU4's blobbiness.

Thank you for the footnotes, they're informative and appreciated!
 
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As annoying as it would be, the fort and city should really be in rebel hands. It might counteract some of EU4's blobbiness.

Thank you for the footnotes, they're informative and appreciated!

I actually disagree - the whole way rebellions work in EU4 is rumbling discontent building up to a major crisis that is usually noticeable, and for which a ruler can either pre-position loyal forces for or ignore because they have bigger problems. It happened quite a few times in the historical period that a rebellion takes control of the town or countryside, yet the garrison in the citadel holds out long enough for reinforcements to arise. There really weren’t many cases like the Night of the Sicilian Vespers where civil and military authority wholesale disintegrates overnight in a brilliant coup, and one of the few cases where such a thing happened - the Rebellion of the Alpujarras - is scripted to fire that way in game.

You’ll see in a few chapters that I ignore a rebellion somewhere that I think is fairly minor because I’m dealing with a bigger crisis elsewhere, and it proceeds to blow up into a fine mess for me.


With the Orders in proper hands, one has to wonder if an alliance with the Poles could be benefitial, as deterrent against the Turks and to return vassal's cores through favors...

The idea has merit, and I’m well aware of the power of the favors for core returns system, but I haven’t pursued it yet for three reasons:

The first is that I’m well over my diplomatic relations cap and don’t really want to add another one on top of it. You’ll see that I do later get it down and then cause it to spike up again, so I’m being a bit hypocritical, but that was my initial thought at the time.

The second is that Poland is a great power with a large calculated strength (on paper at least, but I’m getting ahead of myself) and the Prussian provinces it is occupying are the highest developed ones. I’m not (or at least, I wasn’t at the time) going to earn favors that quickly, and it would cost a lot of favors to get those provinces back.

And the third is that, honestly, while I think the Polish AI is usually fairly decent, the Lithuanian AI is, in my humble opinion, the worst in all of Europe. For reasons known only to Paradox and the Lord Almighty, a Lithuanian AI regularly fields armies that are at least a tech level behind everyone else, significantly imbalanced in cavalry vs infantry, and otherwise lacking in the quality modifiers that much of Europe and the Ottomans get, and then proceeds to march them off to Heaven knows where while the Ottomans calmly siege down all of present day Ukraine, Moldova, and Belarus. Such is my contempt for them that playing as a German country, I will happily attack a Lithuanian army half again as large as mine, because I expect to win handily. Given this, I almost would rather not involve them in an Ottoman war, because the easier struggle isn’t worth the extra frustration for me.

With all that said though, I am about 20 years further in the game now than what you see here, and in that time, some things have happened that might make your idea more palatable.
 
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The dastardly French and being dastardly.
 
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Lifted the self-imposed embargo on gameplays, and despite despising world-conquest runs, this is still in its early-beginning phase, so a comment can be made. Apologies for the ludicrously long post.

No-cb livonian-tag as papal-tag?
Wow. That is bold, mate. Aside from a gameplay perspective, also in terms of a story it is bold.


But the main reason to comment now is actually about one comment, rather than the report itself:
And the third is that, honestly, while I think the Polish AI is usually fairly decent, the Lithuanian AI is, in my humble opinion, the worst in all of Europe. (...)
Nope, it is not, but a player-confirmation-bias this is.

Player experience changes according to the sample size, so based on the written code and the observations through own experience, there is no particular code-handicap, for any of the tags. The advantages and the disadvantages are designed in the form of tag-specific ideas, geographic situation, tag-size, and randomised at every start-roll, so in the form of rivals.

In the general frame:
- At the beginning, a powerful tag means a tag that has multiple subjects.
In this case, ashikaga-, france-, muscovy-, denmark-tags are those turbo-tags that the code will never (never) attack unless certain conditions are met (losing a war, allies abandoning, excommunication, disloyal subjects, heavy debt, bankruptcy, else scripted event, rivalry with ming-tag, etc.)​
- At the beginning, a powerful tag means a tag that can maintain an army more than 20k.
In this case, venice-, mamluks-, bengal-, england-, vijayanagar-, castile-, aragon-, great horde-, hungary-, austria-, etc. are those that the code will only attack when it has enough allies to call upon. In this list, otto-tag is a unique turbo-tag, as it can have more than ten subjects after the start, can already field a 40k army, and by geography it can easily defend itself (sea of marmara), therefore it will be rarely attacked; ming-tag is unique, as it is the hyper-tag; burgundy-tag is a uniquely horrendous tag, as its survival depends on events, therefore dies often; timur-tag is unique (having by far the largest subject-group), as it can fall apart by events yet can still survive.​
- Alliance ring.
Few tags start with already good enough alliances, else most can form an efficient alliance ring to deter the code. This includes also the trade leagues, so lübeck-tag is a turbo-tag when defending itself, and venice-tag is a turbo-tag as it can establish a trade league with 10 other tags at the start, while fielding more than 20k, and has more opportunities for efficient alliances.​

In the specific case of poland-lithuania-tag:
Poland starts as a weak tag: it has 21k army that it cannot maintain, starts in europe meaning the least valuable, the poorest part of the world, surrounded by tags that it cannot attack simply by itself, a quarter of its lands are at the hands of its vassal mazovia-tag, half of the lands are not of the tag's denomination, and its king has the chronic disease of lying on the ground not breathing somewhere in Varna.

This changes within the first couple of months (or years) of any run with the Jagiełło event, and lithuania-tag comes freely as a subject, without any disloyalty (the code can choose the other option and reject it on few runs though, because the code is hardcore role-player, pffft).

And then comes moldavia-tag as a march with an event (most of the times - 65 to 81% chance). If the moldavia-tag comes with claims on wallachia-tag, it can also attack and vassalise it (the code rarely vassalises, but a player-poland can easily do it); another march opportunity.

So this tag jumps from nothing into great power number 3 status, by only sitting there. Not even mentioning the free war of danzig vs. teutonic, and getting the danzig-tag as a vassal for free after that war.


Now, back to lithuania-tag, as a subject in the personal union of poland-lithuania:

It is a subject tag. By default a code-subject (does not matter whether a subject to player-tag else code-tag) will not care about its army composition, army size, manpower, nor its tech level. It will not run its economy efficiently, will regularly disband armies to keep the balance positive, then recruit as a war is declared, then disband again.
A player-austria has to have at least three personal unions; hungary, bohemia, milan. A player-austria has to fight from the start to the end; imperial interventions, imperial bans, religious wars, wars against ottos, france, poland, denmark, venice, burgundy, etc. And the player will notice that during those wars fought while having those subjects, the subjects will deplete their manpower. Not knowing the situation of the dlc's after emperor, but up to the emperor dlc, the subject provincial manpower is cut down, so the subjects do not benefit from their own provinces as a regular tag. Add this to the code inability to maintain an army unit, not caring about attrition, etc. so in the end, those subjects will continue the run with nought manpower after a while.

And the subject-tag is the gigantic lithuania-tag: it is the second tag by size after the otto-tag in europe. It can field more than 20k army, and it has the incentive to recruit more cavalry (tag ideas, also cossacks estate, etc.)
(...) and otherwise lacking in the quality modifiers that much of Europe and the Ottomans get (...)
It does not have quality modifiers such as discipline or morale, but on the contrary, few tags do have such, and yet lithuania-tag has other modifiers by its ideas.
and then proceeds to march them off to Heaven knows where while the Ottomans calmly siege down all of present day Ukraine, Moldova, and Belarus.
When the code calculates that the enemy force significantly surpasses its own army-power (size, quality, number of allies, etc), then it will run away and try to find a distant fort (actually, the farthest fort it can reach) to lay siege, avoiding any conflicts by itself, waiting for its allies to group-dive on the target. That is the modus operandi of the code, not specific to the lithuania-tag. And there is no tag that can efficiently oppose the otto-tag in the early-beginning phase. Even ming-tag can be defeated, but that is because of the scripted-events.


One aspect can be agreed upon that the code-lithuania seldomly survives the beginning phase of any run when the code-poland chooses the option not to form the personal union: this is not tag-specific but due to the game design, as the code-lithuania tries to form an alliance ring and is left with terrible choices (usually scotland-tag, and dies by the wars of england-tag, due to prolonged war as neither can reach each other, and the code neighbours calculate this as an opportunity of fallen alliance; else aragon-tag, and again dies by the wars of the castile-tag if rival; and of course, it still does a poland-alliance, and they die together).



Major kudos to your patience for playing the papal-tag, as it has only one unique game-mechanic, the curia, which is immediately lost upon the election most of the times (chance-based election system by pseudo-random number generator), and generally to one of the player-papacy's rivals. Have been and will be following it up to probably to the end of the early phase (~1500), or at least try to (due to the gigantic images), so godspeed lol in advance.
 
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Lifted the self-imposed embargo on gameplays, and despite despising world-conquest runs, this is still in its early-beginning phase, so a comment can be made. Apologies for the ludicrously long post.

No-cb livonian-tag as papal-tag?
Wow. That is bold, mate. Aside from a gameplay perspective, also in terms of a story it is bold.


But the main reason to comment now is actually about one comment, rather than the report itself:

Nope, it is not, but a player-confirmation-bias this is.

Player experience changes according to the sample size, so based on the written code and the observations through own experience, there is no particular code-handicap, for any of the tags. The advantages and the disadvantages are designed in the form of tag-specific ideas, geographic situation, tag-size, and randomised at every start-roll, so in the form of rivals.

In the general frame:
- At the beginning, a powerful tag means a tag that has multiple subjects.
In this case, ashikaga-, france-, muscovy-, denmark-tags are those turbo-tags that the code will never (never) attack unless certain conditions are met (losing a war, allies abandoning, excommunication, disloyal subjects, heavy debt, bankruptcy, else scripted event, rivalry with ming-tag, etc.)​
- At the beginning, a powerful tag means a tag that can maintain an army more than 20k.
In this case, venice-, mamluks-, bengal-, england-, vijayanagar-, castile-, aragon-, great horde-, hungary-, austria-, etc. are those that the code will only attack when it has enough allies to call upon. In this list, otto-tag is a unique turbo-tag, as it can have more than ten subjects after the start, can already field a 40k army, and by geography it can easily defend itself (sea of marmara), therefore it will be rarely attacked; ming-tag is unique, as it is the hyper-tag; burgundy-tag is a uniquely horrendous tag, as its survival depends on events, therefore dies often; timur-tag is unique (having by far the largest subject-group), as it can fall apart by events yet can still survive.​
- Alliance ring.
Few tags start with already good enough alliances, else most can form an efficient alliance ring to deter the code. This includes also the trade leagues, so lübeck-tag is a turbo-tag when defending itself, and venice-tag is a turbo-tag as it can establish a trade league with 10 other tags at the start, while fielding more than 20k, and has more opportunities for efficient alliances.​

In the specific case of poland-lithuania-tag:
Poland starts as a weak tag: it has 21k army that it cannot maintain, starts in europe meaning the least valuable, the poorest part of the world, surrounded by tags that it cannot attack simply by itself, a quarter of its lands are at the hands of its vassal mazovia-tag, half of the lands are not of the tag's denomination, and its king has the chronic disease of lying on the ground not breathing somewhere in Varna.

This changes within the first couple of months (or years) of any run with the Jagiełło event, and lithuania-tag comes freely as a subject, without any disloyalty (the code can choose the other option and reject it on few runs though, because the code is hardcore role-player, pffft).

And then comes moldavia-tag as a march with an event (most of the times - 65 to 81% chance). If the moldavia-tag comes with claims on wallachia-tag, it can also attack and vassalise it (the code rarely vassalises, but a player-poland can easily do it); another march opportunity.

So this tag jumps from nothing into great power number 3 status, by only sitting there. Not even mentioning the free war of danzig vs. teutonic, and getting the danzig-tag as a vassal for free after that war.


Now, back to lithuania-tag, as a subject in the personal union of poland-lithuania:

It is a subject tag. By default a code-subject (does not matter whether a subject to player-tag else code-tag) will not care about its army composition, army size, manpower, nor its tech level. It will not run its economy efficiently, will regularly disband armies to keep the balance positive, then recruit as a war is declared, then disband again.
A player-austria has to have at least three personal unions; hungary, bohemia, milan. A player-austria has to fight from the start to the end; imperial interventions, imperial bans, religious wars, wars against ottos, france, poland, denmark, venice, burgundy, etc. And the player will notice that during those wars fought while having those subjects, the subjects will deplete their manpower. Not knowing the situation of the dlc's after emperor, but up to the emperor dlc, the subject provincial manpower is cut down, so the subjects do not benefit from their own provinces as a regular tag. Add this to the code inability to maintain an army unit, not caring about attrition, etc. so in the end, those subjects will continue the run with nought manpower after a while.

And the subject-tag is the gigantic lithuania-tag: it is the second tag by size after the otto-tag in europe. It can field more than 20k army, and it has the incentive to recruit more cavalry (tag ideas, also cossacks estate, etc.)

It does not have quality modifiers such as discipline or morale, but on the contrary, few tags do have such, and yet lithuania-tag has other modifiers by its ideas.

When the code calculates that the enemy force significantly surpasses its own army-power (size, quality, number of allies, etc), then it will run away and try to find a distant fort (actually, the farthest fort it can reach) to lay siege, avoiding any conflicts by itself, waiting for its allies to group-dive on the target. That is the modus operandi of the code, not specific to the lithuania-tag. And there is no tag that can efficiently oppose the otto-tag in the early-beginning phase. Even ming-tag can be defeated, but that is because of the scripted-events.


One aspect can be agreed upon that the code-lithuania seldomly survives the beginning phase of any run when the code-poland chooses the option not to form the personal union: this is not tag-specific but due to the game design, as the code-lithuania tries to form an alliance ring and is left with terrible choices (usually scotland-tag, and dies by the wars of england-tag, due to prolonged war as neither can reach each other, and the code neighbours calculate this as an opportunity of fallen alliance; else aragon-tag, and again dies by the wars of the castile-tag if rival; and of course, it still does a poland-alliance, and they die together).



Major kudos to your patience for playing the papal-tag, as it has only one unique game-mechanic, the curia, which is immediately lost upon the election most of the times (chance-based election system by pseudo-random number generator), and generally to one of the player-papacy's rivals. Have been and will be following it up to probably to the end of the early phase (~1500), or at least try to (due to the gigantic images), so godspeed lol in advance.

SENSEI HAS NOTICED ME! Passes out in ecstasy…
In all seriousness, you are (as usual) correct in that most of the issues with subject Lithuania are shared among other subject nations (and no - it has not gotten better in the post-Emperor DLCs), but I think two things should be noted: 1. It isn’t just that they’re fielding a “subject” army, but usually an army that is one or two military tech levels behind the standard, due to its significant distance from the possible Renaissance and Colonialism institution spawn points and that Poland has to get it first themselves before they can pass it on, and 2. Yes almost all AI’s run away and hide against a much larger force, but Lithuania as a country is so big that it has much further to run, meaning that its armies pretty much place themselves out of action by failing to respond properly to Poland’s (or any of Poland’s allies’) movements, resulting in a disconnect.
I do also have to touch on the Curia again. It’s obviously random chance who becomes the curia controller every succession, and there has been no small amount of luck in me holding it for three pontificates/46 years before finally (spoilers) losing it, but a player controlled Papal States is more often than not able to get and keep it through manipulation of the “appoint cardinals” feature to spread out cardinals elsewhere to dilute a major country’s chances and increase the Papal States own chances. I only lose it following this current pontiff’s death because he wound up reigning so long that I hit the maximum of 200 influence invested into the next election about halfway through his reign, and everyone else got a chance to catch up. Even then I still lost an election I had a 55% chance of winning. I, of course, don’t have to tell you all the advantages of being curia controller, but to be clear, I’m only able to diplomatically vassalize HRE territories or declare no-CB wars without coalitions forming this early in the game because of the curia controller bonuses (posted below for everyone’s benefit).

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I’m normally not a fan of this kind of AAR, but I do enjoy your voice and your humor. I will follow. I can relate to your queasiness over historical details. It’s not the only reason, but it’s one of the reasons that I don’t want to write an AAR based on real historical characters.

I live in terror that someone is going to read my posts and think “actually, angel-sexy culture didn’t have archers in 1064. They had peasants that they covered in spikes and hurled through the air with a small trebuchet. It wasn’t until 1065 that an irate villager showed Count Chocula of Burgundaragon that there was a better way, so your battle wasn’t historically accurate.”

I suppose, though, a workaround is to throw in a “this year, the bishops decided to restructure this meeting to include only the clergy from the smattering of provinces I deem important in the game” or “yes, it’s true that the river isn’t navigable TODAY, but climate change screwed it up” or “normally it wasn’t navigable, but there were unprecedented rains that year which weren’t documented by scholars because the peasants living there were all illiterate and didn’t keep accurate journals about important information like they do in Baldur’s Gate games.”

That said, I have a few Google searches that might raise eyebrows for my AAR like “poisonous plants that grow in Minnesota.”

Either way, I really want you to write your ketchup on macaroni AAR. Someone needs to suffer for that horrible idea.
 
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Eugenius V (The Great) (1456-1490) Part III New
Eugenius V (The Great) (1456-1490)
Part III


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The Crossing of the Red Sea (Sistine Chapel), attributed to Cosimo Rosselli

And when Moses had stretched forth his hand over the sea, the Lord took it away by a strong and burning wind blowing all the night, and turned it into dry ground: and the water was divided. And the children of Israel went in through the midst of the sea dried up: for the water was as a wall on their right hand and on their left. And the Egyptians pursuing went in after them, and all Pharao's horses, his chariots and horsemen through the midst of the sea, And now the morning watch was come, and behold the Lord looking upon the Egyptian army through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, slew their host. And overthrew the wheels of the chariots, and they were carried into the deep. And the Egyptians said: Let us flee from Israel: for the Lord fighteth for them against us.
And the Lord said to Moses: Stretch forth thy hand over the sea, that the waters may come again upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots and horsemen. And when Moses had stretched forth his hand towards the sea, it returned at the first break of day to the former place: and as the Egyptians were fleeing away, the waters came upon them, and the Lord shut them up in the middle of the waves. And the waters returned, and covered the chariots and the horsemen of all the army of Pharao, who had come into the sea after them, neither did there so much as one of them remain. But the children of Israel marched through the midst of the sea upon dry land, and the waters were to them as a wall on the right hand and on the left: And the Lord delivered Israel on that day out of the hands of the Egyptians. - Exodus 14:21-30

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France’s aggressive actions are severe enough that we attempt to assemble a coalition of nations to oppose them. Time will tell if we have any success in doing this. [A]

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An intriguing intelligence dossier though reaches our desks though from the east. The Mamluks are apparently not as strong as we thought. This is both exciting and alarming – on the one hand, we might actually be able to successfully attack them and take back the Holy Land without the assistance of our allies like we anticipated. On the other hand, the Ottomans could do the same thing, and they’d be unstoppable if they brought all that territory under their control.
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Speaking of the Ottomans, the Albanians have been destroyed by them, ending the war that has occupied them in Europe. Once their affairs in Central Asia conclude, they will be free to attack the Mamluks. We need to act, and quickly.

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The Poles are bribed to not go after the Teutons with another cardinal’s hat.

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The port of Massilia/Marseille is expanded to increase our revenues [C]

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The Livonians are formally made a march.

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We end our experiment of autonomy in Sardinia. That was a waste of diplomatic effort and made the realm too unwieldy to manage.

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While negotiating the submission of the Bolognese, word reaches us that the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire died, with his son inheriting. This pleases us.

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Training fields are expanded in Rome on the advice of the nobility.

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We announce that the Mamluks are persecuting Christian pilgrims to the Holy Land and that we will not tolerate this. [D]

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Moscow sends an ambassador all the way here to register their disapproval that we stopped them from conquering the Baltics. We politely tell them that the First Rome doesn’t give a damn what the Third Rome thinks and their rejection of the Council of Florence and their rightful patriarch makes them rank heretics and schismatics. [E]


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The honorable Cardinal Peter of Padua has finally passed to his reward. First given the job of the treasurer early in the reign of Pius II, he managed to turn a delicate financial position into an economic powerhouse, greatly increasing the revenues flowing into our treasuries… if one is willing to overlook a few accounting books getting swapped around. Truly he has built up treasures in paradise. [F]

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And to replace him, a very special cardinal has been appointed to be the Pope’s personal advisor. Who is it? No clue. [G]

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There are supposedly reports of rebel activity in Crete. That is the reason why we are sending the entire army there. There are no other reasons. Non. None. Nada. Nyet. Zilch.

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Albert of Austria, Duke of Styria and brother of former Emperor Fredrich III has risen up in an attempt to become independent of his second cousin. Though Archduke Laudislaus has crushed his cousin, the fighting was exceptionally fierce, with over ten thousand Austrians and an even larger number of Styrians being killed or wounded. [H]

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We offer an alliance to the Florentines in an attempt to convince them to become our vassals.

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On June 2, 1472, His Holiness, Pope Eugenius, has proclaimed that the time was nigh for a new Crusade for Jerusalem. He does not begrudge those countries already participating in the crusade against Tunis, nor does he demand the assistance of the rest of Europe in this matter. The loyalty and spontaneous demonstrations of men and money from the states of Italy and the holy orders will be more than sufficient to liberate the Holy Land.

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Rather conveniently, the entire army and navy happened to be parked in Crete, and upon hearing the news embarked to make an amphibious assault on Bardiya (all reports that they were already embarking for Egypt while the Pope was speaking in Rome are spurious rumors).


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Saluzzo has announced that they will be following the Bolognese in joining the Papal States, inspired by the Crusignati fervor.

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General Castiglione has the bit in his teeth; the entire army has not even landed yet and he has already sent word that he is marching on Marsa Matruh to surprise the local Egyptian garrison before they can be reinforced.


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From what we have gathered, the furious orders telling him to stop and consolidate his position somehow got lost on the way, which is a very good thing for the reputations of many here in Rome as news has returned of the absolute annihilation he inflicted on the Mamluks.

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He has to consolidate now though, as the Knights are reporting that the Mamluk fleet attacked theirs off Rhodes and inflicted heavy losses. This however has resulted in damage to their own fleet away from their safe harbors. Admiral Toscani is moving to intercept.

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Tactically inconclusive – we sank fifty of their galleys with little losses on our end, but some of our ships are so badly damaged Admiral Toscani elected to retreat into Rhodes before the tide shifted into their favor.

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Bologna is formally annexed on the same day the Naval Battle of Rhodes ends.

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And a synod on Crete firmly establishes papal supremacy over the church there.

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Malcontents in Nice attempt a revolt, but happily the newly integrated Bolognese army and our vassals were able to suppress it without too much issue.

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The Mamluk navy has retired to Egypt for repairs, freeing Toscani to finish ferrying the rest of the army from Crete to Egypt. The Bohemians have expressed their hostility towards our recent actions, which has resulted in us politely, but firmly, telling them to get bent.

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Saluzzo is annexed as a brave group of privateers in the Mamluk service have launched a raid on Ancona. Brave but foolish: there isn’t exactly a way out of the Adriatic if you have a navy large enough to blockade the Straits of Otranto.

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And at the conclusion of that pasting, Admiral Toscani has informed us that he has developed new and innovative techniques of violently disassembling enemy vessels into their component parts, and then using those parts to repair damage to his own fleet. Quite how he times the gunpowder explosions to work that way is a mystery to us clerics, but our technical advisors, the finest in the world, are all keen to ensure us that indeed, any earthly problem can be solved with the precise application of high explosive.

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And he now has a chance to put his theories to the test. The Mamluks have sailed forth in a hurry to try and cut Castiglione’s supply lines before Alexandria falls. He has sent word he is on an intercept course.

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Regardless of if he wins or loses, the Mamluk sally is in vain – Alexandria, its storied treasures, and its treasured stories all fall into Castiglione’s hands on the 23rd of July.

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And Toscani adds to the glory with a report that the Mamluk navy has been shattered. The vast majority of their galleys lie sunk on the bottom of the Mediterranean (or collected into spare parts for our vessels) and their flagship is now ours.

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Of course, the name of a heathen sultan is not proper for the most powerful vessel of the Pontifical Navy. Ideas were thrown around, until someone pointed out that the ship was sent out to persecute Christians but wound up being abruptly converted into the biggest agent of their promotion, and that sounded awfully familiar to a certain saint and apostle that we, surprisingly, didn’t have a ship named after at that point in time. It was a fairly easy sell.


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While all of that was going on though, the Swiss Guards under General von Aargau had advanced forward of Castiglione to secure the route of the march to Cairo, only to report back that the main host of the Mamluk army was bearing down on them. Von Aargau has managed to delay and otherwise maneuver around that host in time for Castiglione to come to the rescue.

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The great battle for control of Egypt has begun.

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A magnificent victory! The road to Cairo is open!

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Sadly, the great commandant and minister of our army died soon after receiving news of the Battle of Buhaira, we will have to appoint a new one whose main priority is getting reinforcements to replenish the ranks in Egypt as quickly as possible.


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All of Rome is in awe. That holy hermit and veritable living saint, Francis of Paola, already famous for his many reported prophecies and miraculous healings of both man and beast alike, abruptly entered Rome this morning. Walking to the middle of the city’s main fish market with a large crowd following, he suddenly fell to his knees and with tears in his eyes cried out that he could see banners of crossed keys flying over the walls of Cairo, Damascus, and Jerusalem, and the wholesale defeat of both the Mamluks and Ottomans alike by the holy armies of the crusade. That would have been an extraordinary enough claim coming from the man who correctly predicted the Fall of Constantinople, but what happened next was indescribable. At the sound of his prophecy, every fish in the market, including those which had been carved up into many pieces, suddenly returned to life and began violently flopping around to the great horror and confusion of their mongers. Needless to say, everyone from the Pope down to the peasants is in a state of manic frenzy. [J]

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We hope he’s right. Right now, although we have local superiority in numbers and training, the Mamluks are reinforcing their position and looking to surround our forces and cut off our supply lines. We cannot risk breaking the siege of Cairo to deal with them, but dividing our armies would be suicidal. Castiglione has reported that he has consulted with that ancient siege master, General Barilla, and Admiral Toscani, and devised a plan to blow a massive hole in the walls of Cairo with all the army’s gunpowder. He better succeed, otherwise there won’t be much for the army to defend itself with.

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CAIRO HAS FALLEN! Castiglione has done it! The Mamluks now outnumber him, but they’re apparently still strung out trying to encircle! He’s sent back word that he’s consolidating his army at Zagazig (rather appropriate name under the circumstances) and pressing the attack. Godspeed General!
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What can we say?

What can we write?

What words or songs of praise can do this campaign justice?

The Lord has smote Egypt, as he did in the days of Moses. The Promised Land lies before us. And Castiglione thinks he’ll make it there in three weeks instead of forty years. Francis was right. How is this happening? [K]




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[A] Believe it or not, I never have gotten the Grand Coalition achievement in EUIV, and I was hoping to pick it up this time. I didn’t though – no one was interested in joining me. Before anyone asks, they had recently purchased an indulgence, so I wasn’t allowed to excommunicate them.

The almighty and ever-wise Filcat can and has explained it better than I could, but the strength of the Ottomans derives from two sources – The first is that they are an empire-rank state that accepts the whole Levantine culture group, and the second is that they are able to use the benefits (in part conferred by the first source) to steer pretty much all the trade of Asia and East Africa into Constantinople, pretty much turning it into the de facto end node that Venice is nominally supposed to be for all of that. In 1444, they’re a major power that could be defeated with extreme cleverness and skill (and exploiting the code – lots and lots of exploiting). The conquest of Constantinople, Anatolia, and the Balkan minors makes them unimpeachably the strongest country in the game. But it is the conquest of all of the Mamluk lands, all that high-development primary culture/primary religion core territory with no Dhimmi modifiers, that turns them into the unstoppable empire fielding 300k men on a nigh-unlimited treasury that keeps players up at night. Best way to defeat the Ottomans in my humble opinion is to stop them from ever getting any Mamluk territory.

[C] Only noticed this typing it up, but the capital of the province is somehow Aix-en-Provence and not Marseille? Anyone know what the heck the reason for that is?

[D] Another thing that Filcat can explain better, but this is the code breaking down trying to contain the player. The Mamluks are borderline between being strong enough to qualify as a player rival and not strong enough, resulting in a situation where they drop in and out of contention ([A] being an example of the latter) and the player can pretty much farm power projection off of this by increasing and decreasing their army quickly if they want to exploit the game. I however have my dignity.

[E] In the twenty-three years between the Union of the Churches in 1441 and 1464, some wild ecclesiastical things happened. Metropolitan of All the Rus (a subordinate of the Patriarch of Constantinople) Isadore of Kiev was a major supporter of the union and papal supremacy and returned home to find that he was a minority of about one. He got violently expelled from Muscovy and the Muscovites elected their own anti-union metropolitan, unilaterally declaring themselves autocephalous of Constantinople, whose senior clergy were pro-unionist either out of genuine conviction or because their emperors told them to take a look at all the Ottoman flags outside the walls. Because of this, Moscow was technically in schism with the entire rest of Chalcedonian Christianity at this time, as it served as the headquarters of the anti-unionist and anti-Byzantine factions of Orthodoxy. Of course, once Constantinople fell, all the pro-unionist Orthodox clergy found themselves either joining the holy company of the martyrs in Paradise or otherwise fleeing for their lives westward, freeing Mehmed II to appoint the anti-unionist monk Gennadius as patriarch in 1454 and eventually restoring communion between Moscow and Constantinople/Istanbul in 1464 (eventually, the Muscovite metropolitan would be formally recognized as an autocephalous Patriarch of Moscow and All the Rus in 1589). Isadore, for his part, was made a cardinal and continued to be recognized as Metropolitan of All the Rus by the Catholic Church, the unionist Patriarch of Constantinople Gregory III (who escaped to Rome in 1450 and by default became the first of the Latin Patriarchs of Constantinople), and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. He therefore became head of the “Orthodox” subjects of the PLC until his appointment as Latin Patriarch of Constantinople on Gregory’s death, and his successors continued this thereafter. They finally became fully integrated into Catholicism and abandoned all pretense of communion with the Eastern Orthodox Churches in the 1596 Union of Brest, only to be greatly reduced in number by the Russians annexing and assimilating pretty much all of their historical territory and followers in the Partitions of Poland. They still exist though in the Ukrainian, Belarusian, and Russian Greek Catholic Churches – three of the twenty-three Eastern Churches in communion with Rome. I’m not going to bother working out how much of this has happened and will happen in this AAR – Moscow probably won’t survive long enough for it to matter.

[F] Even today, the Vatican finds itself juggling three separate treasuries, that of the Holy See (the office of the Pope as head of the Church), the Archdiocese of Rome, and the government of Vatican City. Where one ends and the other begins is not clear, and there have been multiple unconfirmed claims in the last few decades that they’re all being hideously mismanaged. I do wonder just how much of the $20 I dropped into Peter’s Pence this weekend is going to go to anything remotely proper, but the hilarity of thinking of all the ways that the money probably will actually be spent is more than sufficient compensation.

[G] Paradox… please… my poor brain… why won’t you put some thought into localization?

[H] This is actually an in-game event based on the historical revolt of Albert VI against his brother Frederich III in 1458 which was actually highly successful until Albert died childless four years later. Here though, things are a bit weird as Laudislaus the Posthumous never died childless in 1457, which means that his senior-most Albertine branch of the family still exists, and the Leopoldine branch that Fredrich (who died here in 1464 instead of the historical 1490), Albert, and their first cousin Sigismund of Tirol belong to are his restless sub-vassals. Given that the Leopoldines historically inherited the Albertine claims and was whittled down by attrition until all of it was concentrated in Fredrich’s son Maximillian I, this means that theoretically the events centralizing Austria from seven duchies/counties in a trench-coat into the hegemon of southern Germany have not happened. Quite where the Bohemian branch of the House of Habsburg this game has created has come from is unclear, but I’m already edging towards stroke territory trying to understand all of this.


Anyone who has ever read about contemporary naval battles in the Mediterranean knows that the fleet sizes being represented in EUIV are completely out of whack. While the number of great ships/heavy galleasses is plausible enough with only a few being present even at the larger battles of the era, most sea campaigns of the age featured at least fifty galleys, with the Islamic great powers of the Ottomans and Mamluks regularly fielding over two hundred. From now on, I’m just going to multiply the number of non-heavy ships by ten to make things more realistic.

[J] St. Francis of Paola was a real contemporary saint and miracle-worker who allegedly did predict the fall of Constantinople (though to play Devil’s Advocate, almost everyone could see that coming) and was famous for raising from the dead all of his pets and other animals. Supposedly King Francis I of France was named after him, after he predicted to his expecting parents that the main line of the House of Valois would fail and their child would become king.


[K] I’ll admit, I hit pause and stared at my computer in shock for a little bit when that last battle ended. Obviously, I knew after the two previous battles around Alexandria that I had a significant quality advantage and was going to win the war if I played smart, but this? I killed nearly 30,000 men, or over 70% of the entire Mamluk army, in less than two months. And with a force that was only just about that size and which took minor casualties in comparison. That’s almost unheard of. That’s something that normally only happens if you’re playing the Ottomans or other militarily OP nation, or if you’re fighting the natives in Sub-Saharan Africa or the Americas. I’m on the cusp of 3k hours in EUIV, and that may be one of the most unforgettable moments I’ve ever had in this game.
 
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There should be a pretty extreme Christian reaction in Europe to the Pope declaring a crusader and then winning one by themselves against egypt and the holy land at the same time.
 
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[E] In the twenty-three years between the Union of the Churches in 1441 and 1464, some wild ecclesiastical things happened. Metropolitan of All the Rus (a subordinate of the Patriarch of Constantinople) Isadore of Kiev was a major supporter of the union and papal supremacy and returned home to find that he was a minority of about one. He got violently expelled from Muscovy and the Muscovites elected their own anti-union metropolitan, unilaterally declaring themselves autocephalous of Constantinople, whose senior clergy were pro-unionist either out of genuine conviction or because their emperors told them to take a look at all the Ottoman flags outside the walls. Because of this, Moscow was technically in schism with the entire rest of Chalcedonian Christianity at this time, as it served as the headquarters of the anti-unionist and anti-Byzantine factions of Orthodoxy. Of course, once Constantinople fell, all the pro-unionist Orthodox clergy found themselves either joining the holy company of the martyrs in Paradise or otherwise fleeing for their lives westward, freeing Mehmed II to appoint the anti-unionist monk Gennadius as patriarch in 1454 and eventually restoring communion between Moscow and Constantinople/Istanbul in 1464 (eventually, the Muscovite metropolitan would be formally recognized as an autocephalous Patriarch of Moscow and All the Rus in 1589). Isadore, for his part, was made a cardinal and continued to be recognized as Metropolitan of All the Rus by the Catholic Church, the unionist Patriarch of Constantinople Gregory III (who escaped to Rome in 1450 and by default became the first of the Latin Patriarchs of Constantinople), and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. He therefore became head of the “Orthodox” subjects of the PLC until his appointment as Latin Patriarch of Constantinople on Gregory’s death, and his successors continued this thereafter. They finally became fully integrated into Catholicism and abandoned all pretense of communion with the Eastern Orthodox Churches in the 1596 Union of Brest, only to be greatly reduced in number by the Russians annexing and assimilating pretty much all of their historical territory and followers in the Partitions of Poland. They still exist though in the Ukrainian, Belarusian, and Russian Greek Catholic Churches – three of the twenty-three Eastern Churches in communion with Rome. I’m not going to bother working out how much of this has happened and will happen in this AAR – Moscow probably won’t survive long enough for it to matter.

Wait, is that why there are a couple of guys in Conclave who look more like Orthodox clergy than Catholic?
 
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Surprisingly despite being a gameplay aar of world-conquest run, and having issues on the format such as gigantic screenshots making scroll-reading extremely difficult, this has become a frequent checkpoint for own daily aar-scan, especially by its behind-the-scenes and extra-info footnotes. Kudos.

If Paradox wanted to make the game more realistic, (...)
This is an impossible wish, and that is only because of what the game is, rather than a programmer-capability issue. Paradox is an able company, and in fact the only one whose games are worthy of playing.
And eu4 is not a strategy but an arcade-game, with highly sophisticated(!) mechanics for an arcade-game. ck series, on the other hand, are grand strategy games, with strong simulation elements, which has the potential to be more realistic further to be an actual simulation-strategy.

For eu4 not being a strategy but an arcade-game, see Figure 1.
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Just a regular event, without any significant consequences whatsoever

[A] (...)the strength of the Ottomans derives from two sources – The first is that they are an empire-rank state that accepts the whole Levantine culture group, and the second is that they are able to use the benefits (in part conferred by the first source) to steer pretty much all the trade of Asia and East Africa into Constantinople, pretty much turning it into the de facto end node that Venice is nominally supposed to be for all of that.
Agreeing, with some additions:
  • [The first] culture groups do not play much of a role when playing turbo-tags, dynamic-tags, and the hyper-tag (ming), but can be an issue only for a few couple starts - opm, heavily crowded areas, etc; even in that case, when the player survives the initial phase, there remains no challenges in that regard.
  • [The second] this is the actual reason. Any tag in that node will be the strongest under the player control, and any code-tag in and around there will be a significant threat to the run. But it is not unique in that regard, as a player-tag can turn Persia-node into the highest value hub, thus can trigger Global Trade. The other one is Beijing-node, but that requires also the nodes of Sevilla and the Channel to fail. Novgorod and/or Baltic can be too, but they rely heavily on the situations with Siberia and Crimea.
  • [addition] the otto-tag is strong, can become stronger than the majority of the tags even under the code control, but the strongest in the game is the ming, the hyper-tag, naturally. Code-ming can annihilate any other tag, unless it collapses due to pseudo-random and scripted events, but under the player control, one has to try hard to self-sabotage the run in order to fail.
Best way to defeat the Ottomans in my humble opinion is to stop them from ever getting any Mamluk territory.
It depends on many other variables. In addition to that, to defeat a code-ottos one does require an alive code-mamluks powerful enough to oppose it; if the latter is weakened before weakening the former, well, you get the idea.

[D] (...) but this is the code breaking down trying to contain the player. The Mamluks are borderline between being strong enough to qualify as a player rival and not strong enough, resulting in a situation where they drop in and out of contention ([A] being an example of the latter) and the player can pretty much farm power projection off of this by increasing and decreasing their army quickly if they want to exploit the game. I however have my dignity.
Acknowledging the power-pro farming [*] concept, but that is not the case here.
It is correct that the mamluks-tag is generally not an eligible rival for the papacy-tag, because it is significantly more powerful than the latter ever can be, but:

The player is the papacy-tag, and the run has advanced 30 years into the initial phase, with the player-papacy expanding in addition to acquiring six subject-vassals - that is an anomaly for the code, and the code reacts to it with collapsed-tags - so the austria-tag loses the imperial election, therefore rivalries fall and are reshuffled, thus the mamluks-tag is fluctuating in and out of the list of eligible rivals for the player.

This is further observed as the player-tag being bombarded with new and unrelated rivalries: code-bohemia, code-muscovy, and besides,...
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check the screenshot that shows the code-ottos' diplo-screen. They are currently at war with the code-timurs, probably due to their alliance with the code-transoxiana, but focus on its rivals; rivalled by four tags plus the player-papacy, but the code-ottos had rivalled only the code-mamluks and the code-timurs, with the third rival slot empty, probably a fallen rivalry (perhaps eclipsed the poland-lithuania-tag, but cannot be certain since not payed much attention on the screenshots of the previous posts).

And once that war ends, it is highly probable that the code-ottos will announce the player-papacy as their new rival.

This means, the code-ottos will Desire Your Provinces, will ally-block you, will ally any tag that is of enraged, hostile, threatened attitude on you, will guarantee even its own rivals against you, will Enforce Peace on you, will join wars against you during a great-power-war, will send privateers to your nodes so that the morocco, tlemcen, and tunis-tags can forever raid your coasts, and will declare war on you whenever you have any weakness, whenever your allies abandon you, whenever it calculates it can overcome you and all your allies, even if your six subject-vassals should be enough to deter the code (they are not), even if it can never benefit from any of your provinces at all (wrong trade node, high-dev but worthless land, etc.), even if such a war can cause its own collapse.

This is due to the fact that the papacy-tag is rising in power if not a great power yet, under the player control, and the code prioritises rivalling the player, furthermore the player has already rivalled the code-ottos. That is not strictly a hardcoded anti-player behaviour: it is because at any given moment of any run the player will be within the rivalry-sphere of the code (which is incomparably wider than the player's), and will always be calculated as the weakest among the other options (always, unless playing the ming-tag, or a mid-phase turbo-tag that eclipses the code-tag), else will be the primary target due to low relations induced by aggro-exp, etc.
And under any other circumstances, a player-mamluks cannot choose a code-papacy as their rival, since a player-mamluks will always surpass a code-papacy in power even if the latter controls the entire peninsula, thus will never be eligible for that player unless the player self-sabotages and collapses; hilariously the code-papacy can choose the player-mamluks as a rival, because... sigh.

power-pro jump: This is doable by the player with only five tags at the beginning plus one.
- ming-tag: The only available rival for the player is the ashikaga-tag, which can be eclipsed by acquiring two, or perhaps even one subject-vassal. So, just diplo-vassalise the tags in Tibet, else in Indochina, and the player will be ineligible for any rivalry for at least 100 years of any run.​
- otto-tag: Rival the qq-tag and aragon-tag, plus vassalise ramazan, dulkadir, and after those two, vassalise anizah, medina, najd, and haasa (or any other minor tags to reach haasa-tag): this will increase the range of rivalry options for the player. At that moment if the code-timur has not collapsed yet, then rival the timur-tag. The otto-tag will be the first tag to reach mil-tech 4 in any run unless rare events trigger (early monarch death). Upon acquiring mil-tech 4, qara-qoyunlu rivalry will be eclipsed; when the aragon-tag loses the personal union over naples-tag, that rivalry will fall; and code-timur frequently collapses due to its gigantic-vassals, another fallen rivalry; and these rivalries are guaranteed to fall when the roman-empire-tag is conquered, and the otto-tag gets the empire-rank.​
- mamluks-tag: Similar to the otto-tag, but rival qq-tag, timur-tag, and venice-tag, then vassalise the minors around. This will ensure power-pro-jump at the beginning, and the player-mamluks will be left with only the code-ottos and the code-france as rivals to choose from for decades in the initial phase.​
- timur-tag: Rival uzbek and chagatai-tags in the first month, then choose the ajam-tag for the third rival, because the last one becomes available only after the initial month-tick. By decreasing the liberty desires of the vassals, the first two rivalries will be eclipsed, and declaring reconquest war on the code-ajam on 11 December 1444 will solve that rivalry for good once the war is won. But the timur-tag is tricky, as Shah Rukh is vulnerable to the terrible disease of suddenly not breathing any more, with even more increased risk when the player is in control of the tag.​
- poland-tag: Choose teutonic-tag as rival, and any other two. Wait for the events to happen and become the third great power, code-teutonic rivalry will fall.​
- the plus one, castille-tag: If the Iberian Wedding event happens early, which is very unlikely for the player, but still probable, then the castille-tag can power-pro-jump over its initial rivalry options of morocco and tunis-tags.​

Power-pro-jumping is available for some more others, but those depend on the run, events, code-tag behaviour, etc. It is not exactly an exploit for those and the first four in the above list, as it involves direct player agency to achieve, but it is for poland and castille tags, as the game design just hands over the free power-pro through events without any player agency.
 
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So interesting fact I just found out - apparently putting B and I in brackets first deletes that, and then causes all subsequent text to be bolded and italicized respectively. I was trying to figure out why my text was mysteriously bolding and my footnotes were missing. I'll have to switch to parentheses going forward.
 
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What a smashing of the Mamluks! All of Christendom rejoices!
and in fact the only one whose games are worthy of playing.
I disagree. Paradox is not the only company with fun, good games, even if they have some of my favorites. To each their own though. :)
 
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The battle is won and Cairo has fallen, but what shall the peace show?

One hopes this does not eventually produce a latter day Saladin to chase you back :)
 
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@Historywhiz since I'm reading I should probably say hey. :)

Loving your sense of both humor and gameplay. Interesting strategy with all the vassals. Only half way through but enjoying!

Rensslaer
 
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