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Originally posted by Gen. Suvorov
Please, if you heave any info on monarchs, leaders, nations and events from 1419 to 1492 post the info in this thread.
Which formats and structure would you prefer for the data (events, scenarios, leaders, explainations)? It seems it a bit wasteful of your time to let everyone send you unstructured data if it could be avoided. A pure EU-structure approach leaves a lot unsaid on the other hand, so do you have any preferences?
 
Demetrios: I agree

WRT Candar they seem to have enjoyed a semi-autonomous existence until 1461, but frankly, I agree: I don't think they should exist in 1419.

On the subject of Tekke. Again, I agree. They make Granada look big and strong.
 
Re: Demetrios: I agree

Originally posted by Emre Yigit
WRT Candar they seem to have enjoyed a semi-autonomous existence until 1461, but frankly, I agree: I don't think they should exist in 1419.

I don't have any real objections to Candar, which possessed a sizeable amount territory in north-central Anatolia in 1419 and lasted until 1461/2. It's much, much more deserving to be in EU2 than Tekke.
 
Gen Suvorov,

Smth like that?

1450, Mainz, Johannes Guttenberg builds a first printing press

About 1450 he set up a press in Mainz on which he probably started printing the large Latin Bible and some smaller
books and leaflets. By 1452, with the aid of borrowed money, Guttenberg began his famous Bible project. Two hundred copies of the
two-volume Gutenberg Bible, a small number of which were printed on vellum. The expensive and beautiful Bibles
were completed and sold at the 1455 Frankfurt Book Fair, and cost the equivalent of three years' pay for the
average clerk.
------------

1476 Westminster, William Caxton sets up England's first printing press

Caxton had been a prolific translator and found the printing press to be a marvelous way to amplify his mission of
promoting popular literature. Caxton printed and distributed a variety of widely appealing narrative titles
including the first popular edition of Chaucer's The Canterbury Tales. Caxton was an enthusiastic editor and he
determined the diction, spelling and usage for all the books he printed. He realized that English suffered from so
much regional variation that many people couldn't communicate with others from their own country. Caxton's
contributions as an editor and printer won him a good portion of the credit for standardizing the English language.
-----------------

1553 Moscow, Makarii begins Bible printing in Russia

Makarii ( c.1482-1564 ) became metropolitan of Moscow in 1542. He established the first printing press in Russia
(1553) to print religious works for Kazan, compiled the Velikii chet i-minei (texts on Russian saints arranged for
12 monthly readings), wrote the Stepennaia kniga [Book of Generations] (a history of the ruling Russian families),
and was a central figure at the Stoglav Sobor (Council of 100 Chapters) in 1551.
----------------------

1776 London, Adam Smith publishes "An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations"

Adam Smith was the Scottish political economist and philosopher, whose work examined in detail the consequences of
economic freedom. It covered such concepts as the role of self-interest, the division of labor, the function of
markets, and the international implications of a laissez-faire economy. "Wealth of Nations" established economics
as an autonomous subject and, launched the economic doctrine of free enterprise. Smith laid the intellectual
framework that explained the free market and still holds true today.
---------------------

1530 Torun, Poland Nicolaus Copernicus completes "De Revolutionibus"

The work, even though not published until 1543, asserted that the earth rotated on its axis once daily and traveled
around the sun once yearly. Copernicus died in 1543 and was never to know what a stir his work would have caused. It
went against the philosophical and religious beliefs that had been held during the medieval times. And while the
immediate effect of his work was minimal, those who came after him used it as a cornerstone for the foundation of a
new science.
----------------------
 
# Mecklenburg (Mecklenburg-Schwerin)
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann III"
startdate = { year = 1416 }
enddate = { year = 1438 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich I"
startdate = { year = 1438 }
enddate = { year = 1466 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Ulrich II"
startdate = { year = 1466 }
enddate = { year = 1471 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = ""
startdate = { year = }
enddate = { year = }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich II der Dicke"
startdate = { year = 1471 }
enddate = { year = 1477 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Magnus I"
startdate = { year = 1477 }
enddate = { year = 1503 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich III"
startdate = { year = 1503 }
enddate = { year = 1552 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann Albrecht"
startdate = { year = 1552 }
enddate = { year = 1576 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Ulrich III"
startdate = { year = 1576 }
enddate = { year = 1585 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann"
startdate = { year = 1585 }
enddate = { year = 1592 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Adolf Friedrich I"
startdate = { year = 1592 }
enddate = { year = 1628 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Albrecht, Count Wallenstein"
startdate = { year = 1628 }
enddate = { year = 1631 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Adolf Friedrich I"
startdate = { year = 1631 }
enddate = { year = 1658 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Christian Ludwig"
startdate = { year = 1658 }
enddate = { year = 1692 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Friedrich Wilhelm"
startdate = { year = 1692 }
enddate = { year = 1713 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Karl Leopold"
startdate = { year = 1713 }
enddate = { year = 1719 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Imperial administration"
startdate = { year = 1719 }
enddate = { year = 1728 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Christian Ludwig II"
startdate = { year = 1728 }
enddate = { year = 1756 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Friedrich der Fromme"
startdate = { year = 1756 }
enddate = { year = 1785 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Friedrich Franz I"
startdate = { year = 1785 }
enddate = { year = 1837 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

#Bremen
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann II Slamstorp"
startdate = { year = 1406 }
enddate = { year = 1421 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Nikolaus"
startdate = { year = 1421 }
enddate = { year = 1435 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Balduin II von Wenden"
startdate = { year = 1435 }
enddate = { year = 1441 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Gerhard II von Hoya"
startdate = { year = 1441 }
enddate = { year = 1463 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich II von Schwartzburg"
startdate = { year = 1463 }
enddate = { year = 1496 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann III Rode"
startdate = { year = 1496 }
enddate = { year = 1511 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Christoph von Braunschweig"
startdate = { year = 1511 }
enddate = { year = 1558 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Georg von Braunschweig"
startdate = { year = 1558 }
enddate = { year = 1566 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich II von Sachsen-Lauenburg"
startdate = { year = 1566 }
enddate = { year = 1585 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann Adolf von Holstein"
startdate = { year = 1585 }
enddate = { year = 1596 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann Friedrich von Holstein"
startdate = { year = 1596 }
enddate = { year = 1634 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Friedrich II"
startdate = { year = 1634 }
enddate = { year = 1648 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich von Coppeln"
startdate = { year = 1648 }
enddate = { year = 1649 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Statius Speeckhahn"
startdate = { year = 1649 }
enddate = { year = 1654 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Wilhelm von Bentheim"
startdate = { year = 1654 }
enddate = { year = 1679 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Kaspar Barkey"
startdate = { year = 1679 }
enddate = { year = 1690 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Friedrich Kasimir Tileman"
startdate = { year = 1690 }
enddate = { year = 1721 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johann von Rheden"
startdate = { year = 1721 }
enddate = { year = 1725 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Liborius von Line"
startdate = { year = 1725 }
enddate = { year = 1728 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Hieronymus Alers"
startdate = { year = 1728 }
enddate = { year = 1731 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich Smit"
startdate = { year = 1731 }
enddate = { year = 1736 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Daniel von Büren"
startdate = { year = 1736 }
enddate = { year = 1749 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Volhard Mindemann"
startdate = { year = 1749 }
enddate = { year = 1781 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Albrecht Gröning"
startdate = { year = 1781 }
enddate = { year = 1781 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Martin Eelking"
startdate = { year = 1781 }
enddate = { year = 1782 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Gerhard von dem Busch"
startdate = { year = 1782 }
enddate = { year = 1798 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Jakob Breuls"
startdate = { year = 1798 }
enddate = { year = 1803 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich Lampe"
startdate = { year = 1803 }
enddate = { year = 1810 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "French occupation"
startdate = { year = 1810 }
enddate = { year = 1813 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Heinrich Lampe"
startdate = { year = 1813 }
enddate = { year = 1817 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Christian Hermann Schöne"
startdate = { year = 1817 }
enddate = { year = 1822 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

#Pommern/Pomorze
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Kazimierz V"
startdate = { year = 1413 }
enddate = { year = 1435 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Joachim"
startdate = { year = 1435 }
enddate = { year = 1451 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Ota III"
startdate = { year = 1451 }
enddate = { year = 1464 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Eryk II"
startdate = { year = 1464 }
enddate = { year = 1474 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Boguslaw"
startdate = { year = 1474 }
enddate = { year = 1523 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Barnim IX"
startdate = { year = 1523 }
enddate = { year = 1569 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Barnim X"
startdate = { year = 1569 }
enddate = { year = 1603 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Boguslaw XIII"
startdate = { year = 1603 }
enddate = { year = 1606 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Filip II"
startdate = { year = 1606 }
enddate = { year = 1618 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Franciszek"
startdate = { year = 1618 }
enddate = { year = 1620 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Boguslaw XIV"
startdate = { year = 1620 }
enddate = { year = 1637 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

#Geldre
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Reinald IV"
startdate = { year = 1402 }
enddate = { year = 1423 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Arnold"
startdate = { year = 1423 }
enddate = { year = 1465 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Adolf"
startdate = { year = 1465 }
enddate = { year = 1471 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Arnold"
startdate = { year = 1471 }
enddate = { year = 1473 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Karel I of Bourgogne"
startdate = { year = 1473 }
enddate = { year = 1477 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Adolf"
startdate = { year = 1477 }
enddate = { year = 1477 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Karel II"
startdate = { year = 1477 }
enddate = { year = 1538 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Willem III of Kleve"
startdate = { year = 1538 }
enddate = { year = 1543 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

#Friesland
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Willem Lodewijk"
startdate = { year = 1584 }
enddate = { year = 1620 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Ernst Kasimir"
startdate = { year = 1620 }
enddate = { year = 1632 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Hendrik Kasimir I"
startdate = { year = 1632 }
enddate = { year = 1640 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Willem Frederik"
startdate = { year = 1640 }
enddate = { year = 1664 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Hendrik Kasimir I"
startdate = { year = 1664 }
enddate = { year = 1696 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Johan Willem Friso"
startdate = { year = 1696 }
enddate = { year = 1711 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Willem"
startdate = { year = 1711 }
enddate = { year = 1747 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

#Ostfriesland
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Edzard"
startdate = { year = 1435 }
enddate = { year = 1441 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Ulrich I"
startdate = { year = 1441 }
enddate = { year = 1466 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Theda Ukena"
startdate = { year = 1466 }
enddate = { year = 1481 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Enno I"
startdate = { year = 1481 }
enddate = { year = 1491 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Edzard I der Grosse"
startdate = { year = 1491 }
enddate = { year = 1528 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Enno II"
startdate = { year = 1528 }
enddate = { year = 1540 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Edzard II"
startdate = { year = 1540 }
enddate = { year = 1599 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Enno III"
startdate = { year = 1599 }
enddate = { year = 1625 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Rudolf Christian"
startdate = { year = 1625 }
enddate = { year = 1628 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Ulrich III"
startdate = { year = 1628 }
enddate = { year = 1648 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Enno Ludwig"
startdate = { year = 1648 }
enddate = { year = 1660 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Georg Christian"
startdate = { year = 1660 }
enddate = { year = 1665 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Christian Eberhard"
startdate = { year = 1665 }
enddate = { year = 1708 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Georg Albert"
startdate = { year = 1708 }
enddate = { year = 1734 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Karl Edzard"
startdate = { year = 1734 }
enddate = { year = 1744 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Friedrich of Beyreuth"
startdate = { year = 1744 }
enddate = { year = 1763 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Friedrich Christian of Beyreuth"
startdate = { year = 1763 }
enddate = { year = 1769 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = id = }
name = "Karl Alexander of Ansbach"
startdate = { year = 1769 }
enddate = { year = 1791 }
DIP = ?
MIL = ?
ADM = ?
}
 
On SEA Countries - Malacca?

Hey Greven!

How can you have all those extinct royal lines from SEA when you don't have countries with still existing succesor royal lines in the game? :(

You seem to be missing Malacca - started 1400, with its last independent successor kingdom of Johor only finally vasalised by the British in early 20th century! The Malaccan goverment's nobles also still exist in Royal lines to the Malaysian King's of today! - I estimate at least 3 of Malaysia's 9 kings (we have kings to spare!) were nobles of Malacca - the original royal line of Malacca died out at around 1700s.

If you'll consider the addition of Malacca, I can furnish you with monarch names from 1400 onwards and suggest resources for the ones missing. Even the notable nobles can be gained from sources as easy as Malaysia's history texts!:D

Another royal line that is of significance in Malaysia is the Kedah royal line - the longest royal line in the world after the Japanese. These guys were independent till the 1700s, but were vassals of Siam for a while. They were the ones who sold the island of Penang to the English, allowing the establishment of an English foothold in SEA prior to Singapore.

There is of course the Javanese Sultanate as well of Indonesia, but I won't get into that as I don't have their lineage info.

I'll get in touch with some of my Atjeh rebel friends ;) to see if they can get me the listing for the Atjeh royal line. :) But please please please consider Malacca. :D
 
Well Gen. Suvorov said, when I made similar complaints about central Asia, that the list Greven released isn't totally comprehensive, as they want to keep a few secrets. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see at least a couple more SEA nations show up in the game.


Demetrios

(who wishes he had info on the indentities of these "secret" nations so he could send their monarch lists to Gen. Survorov and Paradox...)
 
Re: On SEA Countries - Malacca?

Originally posted by attamaco

If you'll consider the addition of Malacca, I can furnish you with monarch names from 1400 onwards and suggest resources for the ones missing.

Attamaco,

I would suggest that you go ahead and post the information you have! Makes it easier on them, and maybe if the info is right in front of their eyes..their hands will wander towards the keyboard and put it in!
 
Posted this in a thread in the EU2 forum but come to think of it, it seems to fit better here. Here goes:

Just came to think about that there is no Transylvania, they were a vassal of the Ottoman empire for the most part of the game period. And even independent during the first part?