help picking country in multiplayer game

[Cypher000]

hi everyone wondered if i could get some help im about to play a multiplayer game with some of my m8s and having trouble in picking a country to play as. My m8s are gonna be France, Japan and other is prob gonna be Russia, being England and China are banned lol i would like to be around Europe but who? I wanna be a country that can be a super power to compete with my m8s and have some options for expansion. Was thinking Ottomans but would need some buffs at start to be competitive. Also considering sardina permont to form Italy my m8s would help me make it but not sure as my options from there with Russia and France near me. Also could be prussia, iv been them before and can be buff again m8s would help me form Germany but being sandwiched between France and Russia is putting me off. Can anyone give me any suggestions on who would be good

 

[deadmeat1471]

Prussia.

Though banning england but allowing Russia sounds a bit retarded. I hope the Russian player wasn't the player who called for that restriction otherwise you've been had. Prussia might be sandwiched, but you can handle them both from a very early stage onwards, you will have to maintain a correct level of militarism though, judged on what you can see from Russia and France. Having alot of reserves is also a must for Prussia!

I've never really been Ottomans, I wouldnt advise it though. They are the far weaker of the powers. Sardinia is good, but youll have to cosy up to France alot!

Good luck!

*also, if you guys ever need another player, count me in! i've never had much chance to do many Victoria mp games.

 

[Cypher000]

well we are all m8s gonna do a weekend lan session soz un was a joint decision to ban England and china un my m8 thats being russia is prob the best player out of all of us lol. thanks for you input ill prob go with making Germany again un try take over Italy and the bulkans. what advice would you have on taking on Russia as i did take all of Russia on my last multi game tho Russia was AI un had lil help from my m8s playing as Italy and France. should i just stay defensive build a fortified border to them and take out France first as hes the less experienced player out of all of us =] Also on my last game as Germany i made it communist Germany with the communist flag. Did pretty well for me taxed the rich into extinction lol didnt have much rebel problems thou did hit my economy a bit later in the game.

Also i think we play with no reserve forces as in one of our games one of us couldn't raise his reserve pool at all so just decided that would ban reserves and you can only fight with armies you build also makes game interesting like this too.

 

[deadmeat1471]

Lol @ commie Germany!

I'm never really THAT aggressive as to conquer THE WHOLE of Russia or France! But if I had a choice.... I'd probably focus on grabbing alot of land from Russia first, as later in the game it will take a hell of alot of dead Germany to take Russia with machineguns etc. Also Russia are very weak at the beginning. I never really bother with forts in the east, but its usually wise to fortify the French border at least.
Taxing the rich doesn't really gain you much in Vic, unless your economy is very advanced(say 50%+ manufacturing). Also as Germany if you want to compete economically with the world, its best to NOT do that try and build up a skilled and efficient factory workforce.
Russia can overtake Germany in industry unless this is done! and if Russia gets a better economy, your doomed they will field massive armies and millions of manpower with the best ships and artillery money can buy.
Also artillery, get it, it makes the difference between a small skilled army and the Russian meatgrinder

If you watch consciousness and keep it low, you can maintain a dictatorship to the end of the game(though i've never tried it to 1936!)

Also a general Victoria hint:

If you want to be a dictator - dont use tariffs, or use them as little as possible. They raise consciousness which will make people get angry about dictatorship and reforms and eventually become militant. If you have to, make a new clergy unit in each province(they lower consciousness ALOT).
As democracy, you want to use tariffs always, and lower taxes as much as possible.

 

[Cypher000]

cheers for the advice but only problem is we never normally engage each other until later in the game thou im guessing i shouldn't do this with a human Russia and to engage Russia early to avoid the late game hammering lol.

 

[Cypher000]

well been a development in the progression to my multiplayer game we have another player who will be Italy we have given them the top half of Italy so he can easily form Italy as never played Vicy before. Also Prussia has been given as much provinces from German minors as you can to leave them with one province each so easy anex on war apart from hanover which is a English satellite then Germany was formed by pushed event. So my question is now what should be the best goals for Germany once iv taken the German minors? I will be taking Denmark and Netherlands but then what as my m8 as Russia is kinda dictating what he will allow Germany to do in Europe =[

Also all uncivs are civ now (well become civ in about 1-3 months into the game) as we wanted Japan civ but we didnt know how to make it from the start without making all unciv civs

 

[Talquin]

You could play as the USA. You have a whole ocean between you and anyone else. Keep in mind that the Russian player can take out japan in the first 5 years with little effort. giant immigration bonus also helps out late game.

austro-hungarian empire can be fun as well.